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Everything Apple Announced at WWDC 2024 in Nine Minutes

macduke said:
Only reason to buy a Pro is the display.
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As the owner of an M2 Ipad Pro, I have been underwhelmed. The only thing I notice is the speakers are much better than my old iPad Air (the screen may be better if compared side by side but I honestly do not notice it).

However, Apple has really upped the ante here with its AI offerings.
AI is not available on standard ipads (or standard phones). They have just made the ipad pro worth buying, for access to all the Apple Intelligence features.

Same with phones. I'm a serious photographer, and I've never owned an Apple flagship phone (just not worth the price), but will likely be purchasing the upcoming 16 Pro or Pro Max (just please give them decent batteries--Android is killing Apple here. My $300 Poco phone has a battery size roughly double that of an iphone).

Actually, they have just made the ipad pro the most affordable way of getting access to Apple Intellligence.
 
spicynujac said:
As the owner of an M2 Ipad Pro, I have been underwhelmed. The only thing I notice is the speakers are much better than my old iPad Air (the screen may be better if compared side by side but I honestly do not notice it).

However, Apple has really upped the ante here with its AI offerings.
AI is not available on standard ipads (or standard phones). They have just made the ipad pro worth buying, for access to all the Apple Intelligence features.

Same with phones. I'm a serious photographer, and I've never owned an Apple flagship phone (just not worth the price), but will likely be purchasing the upcoming 16 Pro or Pro Max (just please give them decent batteries--Android is killing Apple here. My $300 Poco phone has a battery size roughly double that of an iphone).

Actually, they have just made the ipad pro the most affordable way of getting access to Apple Intellligence.
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Keep reading this but the iPad Air with M2 gets everything as well doesn't it?
 
The most important question to me is: Can I turn off all this needles Apple Intelligence stuff? At least the part, that is going to the Apple Cloud. Seems to me like Apple has forgotten to give the user at least some kind of feeling, he is in control of is own data. With this boring AI stuff, Apple seems to me to have the perfect excuse to get all your personal data. "Genmojis" - that's exactly what the world was waiting for - that's so bad, I first thought, it must be a joke. If this AI stuff cannot be turned off, I will stay with iOS 17 / iPadOS 17 and perhaps even with Sonoma on my MacBook Pro.
 
dampfnudel said:
Anyone else thinks Apple Intelligence will be a subscription service, at least for some features? If not, I’m sure Tim considered it at some point.
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Of course it will be! Give it a year... "And the new iPhone 17 ProMax starts at just $1,999 and includes 2 months' FREE subscription to all the premium features of Apple Intelligence."
 
Apple_Robert said:
Not arrogant. It denotes that the feature is Apple based. And as such, will be built and integrated specifically for Apple devices. It is no different than Ford Mustang or Chevy Cruze, BMW etc.

I think if you are going to complain, do it about something real instead of something you made up just to gripe.
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Some may call it oxymoron.
 
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Apple_Robert said:
Not arrogant. It denotes that the feature is Apple based. And as such, will be built and integrated specifically for Apple devices. It is no different than Ford Mustang or Chevy Cruze, BMW etc.

I think if you are going to complain, do it about something real instead of something you made up just to gripe.
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Hey Siri, what is Apple Intelligence?

Siri: it's a version of Android Intelligence, only dumber, and several years behind.
 
macduke said:
Overall a beefy update. Except for the iPad. It continues to be a somewhat of a disappointment to those of us who have loved it since standing in line on April 3, 2010. I can see its true potential, but it just doesn’t ever fully live up to it. Even with an M4! And especially with an M4. Only reason to buy a Pro is the display.
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To open up iPadOS to macOS capabilities, they would have to give up the lock in to the Apple App Store, which is a massive massive revenue earner. Never going to happen unless forced to by the govt.
 
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Phoenix1000 said:
The most important question to me is: Can I turn off all this needles Apple Intelligence stuff? At least the part, that is going to the Apple Cloud. Seems to me like Apple has forgotten to give the user at least some kind of feeling, he is in control of is own data. With this boring AI stuff, Apple seems to me to have the perfect excuse to get all your personal data. "Genmojis" - that's exactly what the world was waiting for - that's so bad, I first thought, it must be a joke. If this AI stuff cannot be turned off, I will stay with iOS 17 / iPadOS 17 and perhaps even with Sonoma on my MacBook Pro.
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It is opt-in, so you just don’t turn it on. At least for now - if this becomes the defacto default way to inteRact with your devices, at some point in the future you won’t have a choice.

Call me gullible, but of all the companies in the world that can become a gatekeeper for my digital life, I prefer it to be Apple. Not because they are perfect, but because everyone else is worse. Whatever you don’t want Apple to do, would you want Microsoft to? Google? Facebook? OpenAI? Elon Musk?
 
Velli said:
Whatever you don’t want Apple to do, would you want Microsoft to? Google? Facebook? OpenAI? Elon Musk?
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Well, I have to admit: Here you're right. Apple is a far better choice than any of those you mentioned. But from the show yesterday evening, I could not identify any of the presented AI features, delivering real value for me. Maybe I'm kind of old fashioned, but I've managed to coordinate my meetings, dinner appointments and whatever else nicely without AI in the past. So why giving really all my personal data to Apple or someone else for what benefit? Switching a meeting in the calendar app - for Job it's Outlook anyway - is by far quicker and more convenient than having to talk to Siri. Nearly never use Siri anyway. Math notes? I'm really an Apple fan, but I have to admit, there is one software from Microsoft, which is really close to perfection: Excel. No AI, quite old, but still incredibly powerful. Could it be, that AI is by far overhyped? Same destiny like Apple Vision Pro to come?
 
Apple_Robert said:
Not arrogant. It denotes that the feature is Apple based. And as such, will be built and integrated specifically for Apple devices. It is no different than Ford Mustang or Chevy Cruze, BMW etc.

I think if you are going to complain, do it about something real instead of something you made up just to gripe.
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You forgot Chevy Chase.
 
Phoenix1000 said:
Well, I have to admit: Here you're right. Apple is a far better choice than any of those you mentioned. But from the show yesterday evening, I could not identify any of the presented AI features, delivering real value for me. Maybe I'm kind of old fashioned, but I've managed to coordinate my meetings, dinner appointments and whatever else nicely without AI in the past. So why giving really all my personal data to Apple or someone else for what benefit? Switching a meeting in the calendar app - for Job it's Outlook anyway - is by far quicker and more convenient than having to talk to Siri. Nearly never use Siri anyway. Math notes? I'm really an Apple fan, but I have to admit, there is one software from Microsoft, which is really close to perfection: Excel. No AI, quite old, but still incredibly powerful. Could it be, that AI is by far overhyped? Same destiny like Apple Vision Pro to come?
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Yeah. It’s all just different ways to do the same things. Saves time? Maybe, once you’ve learned how to do the same things in a different way. One word: novelty.
 
spicynujac said:
As the owner of an M2 Ipad Pro, I have been underwhelmed. The only thing I notice is the speakers are much better than my old iPad Air (the screen may be better if compared side by side but I honestly do not notice it).

However, Apple has really upped the ante here with its AI offerings.
AI is not available on standard ipads (or standard phones). They have just made the ipad pro worth buying, for access to all the Apple Intelligence features.

Same with phones. I'm a serious photographer, and I've never owned an Apple flagship phone (just not worth the price), but will likely be purchasing the upcoming 16 Pro or Pro Max (just please give them decent batteries--Android is killing Apple here. My $300 Poco phone has a battery size roughly double that of an iphone).

Actually, they have just made the ipad pro the most affordable way of getting access to Apple Intellligence.
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Not sure what you mean. Both the iPad Pro and iPhone Pro start at $999.

You don't need an iPad Pro to get these features. Anything with an M1 or better supports it, including iPad Air and the previous generation Air. I recently bought both of my kids new in box iPad Air with the M1 and 256GB for $549, with a $200 off deal, probably because of the new M2 models which they don't need. These devices can run Apple Intelligence features.

So I'm still wondering what is the point of the iPad Pro, other than the display and maybe better speakers?
 
Phoenix1000 said:
Well, I have to admit: Here you're right. Apple is a far better choice than any of those you mentioned. But from the show yesterday evening, I could not identify any of the presented AI features, delivering real value for me. Maybe I'm kind of old fashioned, but I've managed to coordinate my meetings, dinner appointments and whatever else nicely without AI in the past. So why giving really all my personal data to Apple or someone else for what benefit? Switching a meeting in the calendar app - for Job it's Outlook anyway - is by far quicker and more convenient than having to talk to Siri. Nearly never use Siri anyway. Math notes? I'm really an Apple fan, but I have to admit, there is one software from Microsoft, which is really close to perfection: Excel. No AI, quite old, but still incredibly powerful. Could it be, that AI is by far overhyped? Same destiny like Apple Vision Pro to come?
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People were able to coordinate those tasks before computers, using pen and paper. Yet here you are, using computers. The success will not be measured in whether you can do tasks that couldn’t be done before, but whether your tasks will be easier and/or faster to do. That may not be the case in the first instance, but it’s quite likely down the line.

Put another way: if the value is “wow look what this cool AI can do”, it will flop. If your tasks become easier and you don’t really think about whether it was AI or not, then it is a success. You are already using “machine learning” for lots of tasks without thinking about it.
 
But the question about the "price" of using AI remains valid. From what I saw in WWDC, especially the delay in the trip to the airport and the dinner thereafter, you have to give a lot of your personal data away. As long as everything is computed on the device, okay, perhaps. But when your personal data is send to Apple data centers or OpenAI, I may prefer doing it "the old way" and keep my data safe - at least to some extend. So either being able to turn off AI computing in the cloud (which I would prefer) or to get clearly warned each time you are about to use AI computing in the cloud will be a make or break for me to decide to install iOS 18 / Sequoia. Was it not Apple stating: What happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone - ha, ha ...
 
Maybe it's just me but this release of IOS & MacOS have more features that I am interested in using than any pair of releases I can remember. From looking at the reaction of people here I was expecting to be disappointed since most seem to be underwhelmed and complaining endlessly about it.
 
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