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Redesign or no redesign, these new MBP's better be freakin' powerful.
All of us spending our days (and nights) on these boards, speculating and angst-ing over the what & when of the update will have a lot of work to catch up on once the new machines do actually ship.
All of us spending our days (and nights) on these boards, speculating and angst-ing over the what & when of the update will have a lot of work to catch up on once the new machines do actually ship.
I might agree. But then I don't get the point of the joke I heard recently:
What are the three thinnest books (made of paper! not notebooks) in the world about?
Russian modesty, english cooking, U.S. history...
What a luck nobody knows the country I'm coming from
If Apple did the following, sales may not be as bad outside of the states:
- turned the 'u.s only' features in OSX into features that the rest of the world would find useful ( i.e., more localisation in its dictionary, thesaurus etc )
- more promotion
- better exchange rate pricing.
- quicker negotiations for tv / movies in iTunes
- iphone in more countries
Like it or not, Apple generally treat the rest of the world as second rate. Apple are losing a *lot* of potential sales.
Having said that, the forthcoming MacBook Pro machines will rock! ( Especially if they have multitouch).
Considering the higher prices (+ 15%) outside the U.S. I would not be surprised to learn that
does 2/3 of their sales within the U.S. but 2/3 of the profit in the rest of the world totaly right but dont you think apple will need a little more time their hardware designers are doing a lot of stuff like the next iphone, macbook air apple tv and an update like the one expected will not meet up to our expectations or take a couple months to be ready
Uh, 8 months IS a long time between updates.
MR/Arn had suggested that the addition of a BTO hard drive upgrade could be perceived as an update and therefore, there is no need to update. If every other computer manufacturer updated their line every 8 months, the computer industry, which is locked in a space race, would slow to a halt.
Now back in the good 'ol days Apple could spout it's guff about Motorola not living up to expectations and we'd all be bagging on Motorola/IBM to 'give us
out damned G5 Powerbook!'
Now however, apple is paired with intel, one of the major driving forces in computer innovation, who are continually able to release update after to update. They are so tightly paired that intel is making custom cpu's just for apple. This is HUGE!
Yet, apple wants to keep us customers in our place and make sure we wait until 'the time is right', like we always have for apple products. The difference is now there is only apple to chastise for time we waste on forum talking about which Tuesday is it going to be? Oooh, ooh, let me guess! Next Tuesday! No, wait, the Tuesday after that for sure! Or maybe a random Monday in March?
The point is, apple is benefiting in cost, supply access and time (not to mention the weak US dollar makes for cheap export profits, since international apple prices refuse to reflect the current state of the market) and these benefits are not being fully passed on to their Mac customers.
Grrrrr!
MR/Arn had suggested that the addition of a BTO hard drive upgrade could be perceived as an update and therefore, there is no need to update. If every other computer manufacturer updated their line every 8 months, the computer industry, which is locked in a space race, would slow to a halt.
Now back in the good 'ol days Apple could spout it's guff about Motorola not living up to expectations and we'd all be bagging on Motorola/IBM to 'give us
out damned G5 Powerbook!'
Now however, apple is paired with intel, one of the major driving forces in computer innovation, who are continually able to release update after to update. They are so tightly paired that intel is making custom cpu's just for apple. This is HUGE!
Yet, apple wants to keep us customers in our place and make sure we wait until 'the time is right', like we always have for apple products. The difference is now there is only apple to chastise for time we waste on forum talking about which Tuesday is it going to be? Oooh, ooh, let me guess! Next Tuesday! No, wait, the Tuesday after that for sure! Or maybe a random Monday in March?
The point is, apple is benefiting in cost, supply access and time (not to mention the weak US dollar makes for cheap export profits, since international apple prices refuse to reflect the current state of the market) and these benefits are not being fully passed on to their Mac customers.
Grrrrr!
Am I the only one who could care less about Apple TV, updated or not and the MBA?
And if decent engineers are so thin on the ground at apple, it might be time for an employment drive?
And if decent engineers are so thin on the ground at apple, it might be time for an employment drive?
OT: My apologies, but this thread is pointless anyway.
Gazfocus, you should change your sig to read 'Pronounced DEAD' and throw in a date and time for good humour.
Gazfocus, you should change your sig to read 'Pronounced DEAD' and throw in a date and time for good humour.
I just hope they don't include the MacBook styled keyboard in the new MBP, man i hate those.
As for the super tuesday and the mentioned unlikeliness because of the missing focus of the media: The tech sites/blogs don't care and the first page news won't cover it anyway. But why not a fresh ad on sunday? i heard there's going to be some action half of america is going to watch
As for the super tuesday and the mentioned unlikeliness because of the missing focus of the media: The tech sites/blogs don't care and the first page news won't cover it anyway. But why not a fresh ad on sunday? i heard there's going to be some action half of america is going to watch
not only when, but what
IMAGINE:
Apple mega clue: YES, our friends of Intel and APPLE astonish you again. The new MBP is fully equipped with Montevina, so it's the newest laptop [and now remember the Macworld Expo keynote]
IN THE WORLDI guess Steve was close to tears.
I didn't want to say anything!
well... that's not true, i did want to say something, but I fought it back
My friend onicon, we finally have an original idea in this thread. Superbowl, of course, was off my radar being it's sport and it's in the united states, but there has been no rumour of any superbowl ad unlike some previous years. Would probably be a better better to say they'll have MBA ad though.
You're right, Steve should have announced the new Intel Quantum CPU shipping in 2020.
Now for more off-topic boredom, did anyone catch the new episode of House the other night with the lame iPhone product placement?
I just hope they don't include the MacBook styled keyboard in the new MBP, man i hate those.
As for the super tuesday and the mentioned unlikeliness because of the missing focus of the media: The tech sites/blogs don't care and the first page news won't cover it anyway. But why not a fresh ad on sunday? i heard there's going to be some action half of america is going to watch
You're right, Steve should have announced the new Intel Quantum CPU shipping in 2020.
not only when, but what
IMAGINE:
Apple mega clue: YES, our friends of Intel and APPLE astonish you again. The new MBP is fully equipped with Montevina, so it's the newest laptop [and now remember the Macworld Expo keynote]
I guess Steve was close to tears.
Now for more off-topic boredom, did anyone catch the new episode of House the other night with the lame iPhone product placement?
not only when, but what
IMAGINE:
Apple mega clue: YES, our friends of Intel and APPLE astonish you again. The new MBP is fully equipped with Montevina, so it's the newest laptop [and now remember the Macworld Expo keynote]
I guess Steve was close to tears.
Hmmm I wish...
Apple not taking the lead in notebook offerings.
I am patiently waiting, I almost sprung for the latest version, but just not compelling enough to go from 2.16 X1600->2.4 8700GT.
But with another 10% performance from penryn, there is.
I would bet on February. There is no reason not to drop higher performing chips into the product. Lenovo is selling thinkpads with the 2.5 Penryn at the same cost as the 2.4 Meroms; Sony will ship the first week in Feb. So there cannot be that much of a shortage. Moreover, HP and lenovo have first included the penryns in their consumer lines.
Second, while the MacBook Air coverage hasn't been bad, it hasn't been great. The rumored Lenovo X300 far outstrips it.
@12" users (me too formerly): For a long time there was nothing comparable with the powerbook, considering its optical audio in, dvi, gpu, and fast processor. However, Asus just released the WXGA 12" U6S w/ nvidia 8400 & HDMI @3.5lbs which is exactly what the powerbook 12" with a bit better batter life at possibly weighing a bit more 3.9lbs (also to avoid competing with MBA).
A 12" MBP would be cheap and easy to produce because the ODMs already have similar models.
The chips and the tech are there to build smaller machines--But I wonder if Apple really sees itself as a core computer business anymore (they changed their name after all).
They don't need a zillion models like asus, dell or Hp, but maybe etending the line to 5 (with 12" MBP) wouldn't be a bad idea to cover each weight class from 3-7lbs.
I am patiently waiting, I almost sprung for the latest version, but just not compelling enough to go from 2.16 X1600->2.4 8700GT.
But with another 10% performance from penryn, there is.
I would bet on February. There is no reason not to drop higher performing chips into the product. Lenovo is selling thinkpads with the 2.5 Penryn at the same cost as the 2.4 Meroms; Sony will ship the first week in Feb. So there cannot be that much of a shortage. Moreover, HP and lenovo have first included the penryns in their consumer lines.
Second, while the MacBook Air coverage hasn't been bad, it hasn't been great. The rumored Lenovo X300 far outstrips it.
@12" users (me too formerly): For a long time there was nothing comparable with the powerbook, considering its optical audio in, dvi, gpu, and fast processor. However, Asus just released the WXGA 12" U6S w/ nvidia 8400 & HDMI @3.5lbs which is exactly what the powerbook 12" with a bit better batter life at possibly weighing a bit more 3.9lbs (also to avoid competing with MBA).
A 12" MBP would be cheap and easy to produce because the ODMs already have similar models.
The chips and the tech are there to build smaller machines--But I wonder if Apple really sees itself as a core computer business anymore (they changed their name after all).
They don't need a zillion models like asus, dell or Hp, but maybe etending the line to 5 (with 12" MBP) wouldn't be a bad idea to cover each weight class from 3-7lbs.
If that comes out in the next month, I'll be very happy. My new job is getting me a new MacBook Pro and I was hoping the Penryn model would come out to make it a bigger difference over my Core Duo entry level model MacBook Pro. The rest you mentioned are just added bonuses, but also what I'm expecting to see as well. Maybe they'll do a magnetic latch as well, one less moving part.
yep
You're absolutely right about that !!! & they better be in stores by the end of this week !
Redesign or no redesign, these new MBP's better be freakin' powerful.
All of us spending our days (and nights) on these boards, speculating and angst-ing over the what & when of the update will have a lot of work to catch up on once the new machines do actually ship.
You're absolutely right about that !!! & they better be in stores by the end of this week !