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you're all wrong!
I tell you, next week; the iPod Plasma! Come with a soft screen protection case (made from 2 cows)
I tell you, next week; the iPod Plasma! Come with a soft screen protection case (made from 2 cows)
Man and I thought the 30-inch display was huge...Wow I'm looking forward to this keynote more and more (but then again who of you aren't?)
Bubbasteve said:
I'm not....not at all....*Twitches*
Note: If at the end of the keynote a dual core PowerBook isn't announced everyone in Bloomington MN open your windows. You will hear a tortured scream emanate from somewhere around 494 and hwy 100.
Sony and Toshiba
Toshiba
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2004/12/toshiba_is_anno.html
Sony
http://news.techwhack.com/604/sony-plasma-sets/
Toshiba
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2004/12/toshiba_is_anno.html
Sony
http://news.techwhack.com/604/sony-plasma-sets/
If this turns out to bee true, I don´t think one can compare this to what happened with the iPod.
Items in that price range won´t fly off the shelfs in the way products that costs less do (even if they are expensive for what they are e.g MP3 player)
I might be proved wrong thogh, though I doubt it
Items in that price range won´t fly off the shelfs in the way products that costs less do (even if they are expensive for what they are e.g MP3 player)
I might be proved wrong thogh, though I doubt it
Below is my breakdown of why I disagree:sw1tcher said:
That has very much to do with the image processor rather than the screen - just look at Sony's Bravia range of LCDs vs plasmas from a year ago. As for sharpness, LCDs and plasmas with the same resolution should be as sharp as each other.
True, but with current generation LCDs it isn't really a practical issue but on paper it is worse.
Depends on the display. Some LCDs have wider viewing angles - once again the Bravia line is a good example.
To be honest I don't know which typically has a brighter screen, but it isn't really going to be an issue until the screen gets old as most people don't run their screens on full brightness anyway.
Couldn't comment but I would have thought they would be similar enough that the average consumer would be able to tell.
Cheaper doesn't equal better. However, unless you are in the 37 - 46 inch area you don't really have a choice anyway. Personally I would get LCD because I like the mat finish (rather than shiny on plasmas). However, each display type has it's advantages and disadvantages (roughly equal in my opinion) and it really depends on your personal requirements.
I believe the are manufactured to Sony's specifications in Samsung factories. In addition, Sony no longer has a plasma TV line.EricNau said:
In terms of whether Apple releases a DVR, I think it is entirely possible but it won't have an integrated screen. It is impractical when people buy TVs to last 10+ years and technology changes so fast, not to mention the millions of people who have recently invested in an HD plasma or LCD display. If they are going to release a DVR I believe it will be a set-top box and will be a unique line like the iPod is. I disagree with the common belief that the Mac mini will somehow evolve into a DVR...
I call BS unless they got it wrong and it's LCD, not plasma.
I thought Sony was trimming plasma offerings and boosting LCD along with the rest of the industry? Sceptre makes a 37" LCD with native 1080P for about $1600 on the street. Now that would be a good pair. Plasmas just don't have the resolution (e.g. 1024x768...854x480) to support a true HD experience and Apple is about making the best of the best.
I thought Sony was trimming plasma offerings and boosting LCD along with the rest of the industry? Sceptre makes a 37" LCD with native 1080P for about $1600 on the street. Now that would be a good pair. Plasmas just don't have the resolution (e.g. 1024x768...854x480) to support a true HD experience and Apple is about making the best of the best.
Apple's plasma experience
This rumour seems very unlikely. I mean Apple has no experience in Plasma TVs. You don't just go out and buy some plasma component and stick it in a case - at least if you want to have the best plasma out there.
Apple would need to compete with Pioneer's 50" plasmas say - arguably the best plasma TVs around. They've put years of research in to these things to get blacker blacks, less reflective surfaces etc. It seems very unlikely that Apple could just go "Here's a plasma we've just built" and get anyone to take them serious.
Unless it isn't going to be the best plasma you can buy (which goes against their usual quality ideals). Or they are buying Pioneers and re-badging them.
This rumour seems very unlikely. I mean Apple has no experience in Plasma TVs. You don't just go out and buy some plasma component and stick it in a case - at least if you want to have the best plasma out there.
Apple would need to compete with Pioneer's 50" plasmas say - arguably the best plasma TVs around. They've put years of research in to these things to get blacker blacks, less reflective surfaces etc. It seems very unlikely that Apple could just go "Here's a plasma we've just built" and get anyone to take them serious.
Unless it isn't going to be the best plasma you can buy (which goes against their usual quality ideals). Or they are buying Pioneers and re-badging them.
This is one piece that many people don't seem to get, maybe because the "plasma" name sounds futuristic or something. Plasma displays use pretty much the same technology as the old CRTs or fluorescent lamps. It's just a giant array of itty bitty single-pixel tubes, and each of those little tubes is exciting gases and making phosphors glow exactly as has been done for a century or so.sw1tcher said:
macidiot said:
heh, THANKS MacIdiot; just what i thought...
...i would go for a rear model, but i'm not ready to spend 5k in projo + screen ( even if i find a realtively small model to fit in the library behind the couch )...
At least now i know they can be silent enough !=) ...and one day maybe i'll find a bargain offer somewhere for an LCOS model...
Plasma is dead...
Yeah, believe it... Plasma is on its way out over the next few years. LCD will progress beyond it's capabilities, and really, the best technology (better than ALL of them -- LCD, LCoS, Tube/CRT as we know it, Plama, front projection, etc...), will be SED by Canon/Toshiba when it comes out. All the benefits of CRT/Tube, with the thinness of Plasmas! I can't wait for them myself... Do a quick Google search for SED tech, you'll see what I mean...
Apple has always seen the future before most other companies do, and the future is NOT in the power-hungry overly-hot plasma, but in SED.
Just my 3.56788 cents.
Yeah, believe it... Plasma is on its way out over the next few years. LCD will progress beyond it's capabilities, and really, the best technology (better than ALL of them -- LCD, LCoS, Tube/CRT as we know it, Plama, front projection, etc...), will be SED by Canon/Toshiba when it comes out. All the benefits of CRT/Tube, with the thinness of Plasmas! I can't wait for them myself... Do a quick Google search for SED tech, you'll see what I mean...
Apple has always seen the future before most other companies do, and the future is NOT in the power-hungry overly-hot plasma, but in SED.
Just my 3.56788 cents.
While this all sounds great, I can't get behind this rumor. Just too much from Apple all at once. Apple tends to do things gradually and after others try it and get it wrong.
Were this to be true in some form, I would expect them to partner with someone and not go it alone.
Edit: Apple retail stores are not set up nor (most) big enough to sell technology like this. Think about your local Apple store, how would they set up, display and demo a living room experience?
Were this to be true in some form, I would expect them to partner with someone and not go it alone.
Edit: Apple retail stores are not set up nor (most) big enough to sell technology like this. Think about your local Apple store, how would they set up, display and demo a living room experience?
curmi said:It seems very unlikely that Apple could just go "Here's a plasma we've just built" and get anyone to take them serious.
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Or they are buying Pioneers and re-badging them.
Yes, they would buy the plasma panels from some company and build the rest (case, cpu/dvr whatever, software) around it. It's the way they do it with their cinema displays, too.
No way
It just aint going to happen. Plasma is old tech, and apple will not make a TV screen. On acount that apple only giv out stuff that is new and is something that not really have been done before, even if it is just a lite twist. And just a Plasma screan is not it. I hope for a cheaper line of screens, 19" 20" 23" And a 23" imac.
It just aint going to happen. Plasma is old tech, and apple will not make a TV screen. On acount that apple only giv out stuff that is new and is something that not really have been done before, even if it is just a lite twist. And just a Plasma screan is not it. I hope for a cheaper line of screens, 19" 20" 23" And a 23" imac.
ShnikeJSB said:
Might also want to research OLED (ELD), CNT-FED and CNT-SED while you are at it.
Amorphous alloys (such as Liquidmetal(R) ) and carbon-nanotube (CNT) materials are certainly going to make manufacturing an interesting industry to be working in for the next decade or so. These two materials might even change the industry as much as plastics did in the 20th century.
I dream about an Apple all in one HD tv solution, with Front Row 2.0 built in. As well as being a HD tv, it can access my media on my Mac wherever it is in the house via Airport, allowing me to view everything that resides on the Mac on the HD tv. iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie content etc. The remote to control all this? Think of a Nano. It will also have an iMac style slot loading DVD drive to play back your movies. This is the culmination of the digital hub, removing the clutter of a separate DVD player, all those CDs, all those photos, all those wires. All in an incredibly sleek, black iPod video esque finish. Wall mountable too.
Or something to that effect.
/me wakes up.
Or something to that effect.
/me wakes up.
Apple and plasmas??
I don't think so. Isn't there still a chance of burn in?
LCD is so much better.
Then again, why offer an Apple-branded TV? Aside from the fact that most people already have a tv, if they go with this angle, they'd need to really compete with the best flat panel TVs out there.
People will be like: the contrast-ratio is worse than brand X, the response time is worse than brand Y, etc.
I don't think so. Isn't there still a chance of burn in?
LCD is so much better.
Then again, why offer an Apple-branded TV? Aside from the fact that most people already have a tv, if they go with this angle, they'd need to really compete with the best flat panel TVs out there.
People will be like: the contrast-ratio is worse than brand X, the response time is worse than brand Y, etc.
instead of coming out with extra-large screen...
why not Apple fill the gap between the 23" and the 30" cinema displays?
i believe there are many who will buy a 26" display for their Macs...
i wonder how many people are going to buy a huge Apple 42" plasma / LCD for watching TV...?
if i were to buy a really good TV of that size... i will trust Sony and not Apple... because Sony has a lot more experience in this and the TV design is classy. I don't think Apple will surpass Sony's standard at its first attempt. Besides, it is not likely that Apple large screen TV will cost any less than that of Sony.
why not Apple fill the gap between the 23" and the 30" cinema displays?
i believe there are many who will buy a 26" display for their Macs...
i wonder how many people are going to buy a huge Apple 42" plasma / LCD for watching TV...?
if i were to buy a really good TV of that size... i will trust Sony and not Apple... because Sony has a lot more experience in this and the TV design is classy. I don't think Apple will surpass Sony's standard at its first attempt. Besides, it is not likely that Apple large screen TV will cost any less than that of Sony.
I just got my Samsung plasma TV and i don't want to buy another one.
Can't be true, putting a 500$ computer in a plasma is ridiculously risky.
This is a decoy from Apple to mislead us or a product from another company, last year the computer with a portable screen that dubs as a tablet was also rumored to be from Apple but it was windows and flopped totally.
Can't be true, putting a 500$ computer in a plasma is ridiculously risky.
This is a decoy from Apple to mislead us or a product from another company, last year the computer with a portable screen that dubs as a tablet was also rumored to be from Apple but it was windows and flopped totally.
Not In A Milion Years !!!
OK. To Point out.
I like Macrumors.com ... great insider news ..
BUT THIS IS BULL ...
First of all .... A PLASMA SCREEN I CRAP FOR STILL IMAGES
As an engenering dude I know that plasma screens have a problem with "still images" and displaying a computer screen on a plasma screen can and will cause the image to "burn" after about 15 minutes of a still frame ... I have had lots of friends wich have the MTV logo on there plasma screens regaring of what channel there are watching ..
This is because the plasma have been exposed for more then 15 minutes of still image ...
and besides a plasma resolutons are crap..
A LCD or SED display are much bether for still images like the OSX ...
I do belive that Apple will release a Media Center edition of MAC OS X and I will defenly be one of milions that will by this ...
I gues it will be a Mac mini(intel) with Front Row 2.0...
Its posible that we will see a LCD with build in OSX but on the outher hand .. who wants that ...
In the future you might want to have a faster media center... and who want to have to change the whole display just for upgrading your mediacenter ...
naaaa...
Lets wait until next week and see what they will release ...
Tought I realy hope that apple will release a mac mini mediacenter edition ... that can be controled via Bluetooth ...
Today I control Front Row with my k750i Sony-Ericsson and its sweet as candy ...
Best regards
//Andy
OK. To Point out.
I like Macrumors.com ... great insider news ..
BUT THIS IS BULL ...
First of all .... A PLASMA SCREEN I CRAP FOR STILL IMAGES
As an engenering dude I know that plasma screens have a problem with "still images" and displaying a computer screen on a plasma screen can and will cause the image to "burn" after about 15 minutes of a still frame ... I have had lots of friends wich have the MTV logo on there plasma screens regaring of what channel there are watching ..
This is because the plasma have been exposed for more then 15 minutes of still image ...
and besides a plasma resolutons are crap..
A LCD or SED display are much bether for still images like the OSX ...
I do belive that Apple will release a Media Center edition of MAC OS X and I will defenly be one of milions that will by this ...
I gues it will be a Mac mini(intel) with Front Row 2.0...
Its posible that we will see a LCD with build in OSX but on the outher hand .. who wants that ...
In the future you might want to have a faster media center... and who want to have to change the whole display just for upgrading your mediacenter ...
naaaa...
Lets wait until next week and see what they will release ...
Tought I realy hope that apple will release a mac mini mediacenter edition ... that can be controled via Bluetooth ...
Today I control Front Row with my k750i Sony-Ericsson and its sweet as candy ...
Best regards
//Andy
