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(experimental) No Tahoe for Sequoia

bogdanw said:
Isn’t that a bit destructive, erasing changes like the Command Line Tools installed?
I’ll try in a virtual machine to see what happens.
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I'm not sure of the full implications of the method. I do know for instance that the Terminal command to disable update notifications for the iWork suite of apps was preserved- just tested that now.
To be sure, the method is probably slower than the conventional update path through System Settings's Software Update, and after logging in, one is presented with the Apple Intelligence choice screen (not sure if that's always the case).
Other than that, all of my current settings/modifications seem fully preserved.
 
bogdanw said:
Yes, I've successfully installed it. I removed Go-Away-Tahoe without checking if Safari was available with it set.
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I kept the Go-Away-Tahoe, removed the blocked nurlsessions updates in LS and it downloaded and installed well
 
I'm seeing Safari 26.5 offered for OTA update in System Settings. Have you tried updating that way?

BTW, I'm seeing Safari even though I have Go-Away-Tahoe still set, but I haven't tried to install yet.
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Yes, I have the Safari 26.5 update choice showing, same as before updating Sequoia.
Isn’t that a bit destructive, erasing changes like the Command Line Tools installed?
I’ll try in a virtual machine to see what happens.
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I don't have the Command Line Tools installed.
 
Davidson Powell said:
I'm not sure of the full implications of the method.
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I've just tried and it hasn't removed /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools

Safari is indeed available with Go-Away-Tahoe set, that’s really good news.
Safari.jpg
 
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bogdanw said:
Yes, I've successfully installed it. I removed Go-Away-Tahoe without checking if Safari was available with it set.
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I successfully installed Safari 26.5 after removing Go-Away-Tahoe. The same old "dark pattern" was in use - I clicked the (i) beside Safari and found that both Safari and Tahoe were checked for installation. You have to be careful! After unchecking Tahoe, the Safari install worked fine, after which I reset Go-Away-Tahoe.
 
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Grumpus said:
I successfully installed Safari 26.5 after removing Go-Away-Tahoe. The same old "dark pattern" was in use - I clicked the (i) beside Safari and found that both Safari and Tahoe were checked for installation. You have to be careful! After unchecking Tahoe, the Safari install worked fine, after which I reset Go-Away-Tahoe.
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I saw the same, but made a test and clicked on Update Now. I was prepared to turn off the Internet 🙂, but only Safari was installed. As there is no guarantee about what is supposed to happen, it's probably best to click on (i) and uncheck Tahoe just to be sure.
 
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bogdanw said:
Yes, I've successfully installed it. I removed Go-Away-Tahoe without checking if Safari was available with it set.
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Re: Your Go-Away-Tahoe method;
"Using a MobileAssetAssetAudience string not recognized by macOS, like “Go-Away-Tahoe”, makes upgrades and updates disappear."
Code: (one line)
sudo defaults write /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience -string Go-Away-Tahoe

@bogdanw, Could you clarify the way to revert or remove Go-Away-Tahoe?
Is this correct? Remove the MobileAssetAssetAudience string by running in Terminal (one line);
Code:
sudo defaults write /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist
??? simply removing the MobileAssetAssetAudience section will do that?
Sorry for the low understanding level, I am never sure how these Terminal commands work, and
Thanks in advance.
 
LeVan said:
Re: Your Go-Away-Tahoe method;
"Using a MobileAssetAssetAudience string not recognized by macOS, like “Go-Away-Tahoe”, makes upgrades and updates disappear."
Code: (one line)
sudo defaults write /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience -string Go-Away-Tahoe

@bogdanw, Could you clarify the way to revert or remove Go-Away-Tahoe?
Is this correct? Remove the MobileAssetAssetAudience string by running in Terminal (one line);
Code:
sudo defaults write /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist
??? simply removing the MobileAssetAssetAudience section will do that?
Sorry for the low understanding level, I am never sure how these Terminal commands work, and
Thanks in advance.
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To revert/delete Go-Away-Tahoe, run
Code: 
sudo defaults delete /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience
 
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By alternatively switching between two values for MobileAssetAssetAudience, we can avoid Tahoe altogether:

1. Use the unrecognized value “Go-Away-Tahoe” most of the time. XProtect updates install automatically, Safari updates are visible and can be installed.
Code: 
sudo defaults write /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience -string Go-Away-Tahoe

2. Once a new Sequoia update is released (like the recent 15.7.7), switch to the value for the public beta channel c8ba02c8-cc63-4388-99ee-a81d5a593283. Only Sequoia updates should be visible, without Tahoe.
Code: 
sudo defaults write /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience -string c8ba02c8-cc63-4388-99ee-a81d5a593283

After installing the macOS Sequoia update, revert to Go-Away-Tahoe to prevent beta updates for showing up in Software Update.

To read the set value for MobileAssetAssetAudience
Code: 
sudo defaults read /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience

To delete MobileAssetAssetAudience, reverting to the default configuration for com.apple.MobileAsset.plist
Code: 
sudo defaults delete /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience
 
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bogdanw said:
2. Once a new Sequoia update is released (like the recent 15.7.7), switch to the value for the public beta channel c8ba02c8-cc63-4388-99ee-a81d5a593283. Only Sequoia updates should be visible, without Tahoe.
Code: 
sudo defaults write /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience -string c8ba02c8-cc63-4388-99ee-a81d5a593283
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In this case will you be offered beta Sequoia as well?
 
I’m sorry, please disregard my previous post. It took me a while to set up a new virtual machine and test the idea.
Unfortunately, when the value for the public beta channel (c8ba02c8-cc63-4388-99ee-a81d5a593283) is set, Software Update shows the full installer, not the smaller OTA.
15.7.7 with 8ba02c8-cc63-4388-99ee-a81d5a593283 15.63GB
Beta.jpg

15.7.7 OTA 2.29GB
Release.jpg
 
Code: (one line)
sudo defaults write /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience -string Go-Away-Tahoe

This one is working for not showing Tahoe, but the red icon still there because Safari 26.5 is available, how to completely get rid of the red icon and staying put with Safari 18.6?

Thanks.
 
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Ben_007 said:
Code: (one line)
sudo defaults write /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist MobileAssetAssetAudience -string Go-Away-Tahoe

This one is working for not showing Tahoe, but the red icon still there because Safari 26.5 is available, how to completely get rid of the red icon and staying put with Safari 18.6?

Thanks.
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Why staying with an old version of Safari? You can use Safari 26.5 with Sequoia, and the red icon will disappear.
 
For posterity and maybe newcomers led to this thread; is there any consensus; Tanoe (via Github) works very well but finding out about updates to Sonoma/Sequoia involves some work and matters if one wants security updates ASAP; i'm trying Visualping to get info. and it may work but so far I've got advice re a Tahoe and an Apple watch update; I had presumed that Apple released all updates simultaneously.

For OCLP users one would think that the developers would arrange some kind of communication when an update was confirmed to be compatible with the current version of the App. but they seem uninterested in that sort of mundanaity.
 
iMac'd said:
finding out about updates to Sonoma/Sequoia involves some work and matters if one wants security updates ASAP; i'm trying Visualping to get info.
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"How to monitor Apple update releases"
"Warning: The following code was 100% AI-generated. Use at your own risk"
https://robservatory.com/how-to-monitor-apple-update-releases/

I asked another "AI" chatbot and it generated a simpler code. I'll post it if it works when a new Sequoia update is released.
 
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