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Face ID Appears to Fail at Telling Apart Brothers Who Aren't Twins in New Videos [Updated]
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cause you are such an expert on exactly how the Face ID system analyzes faces. why don't you tell us more about it
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It’s trivially easy to fool Samsung’s iris scanning. A picture and a contact lens.
Just chiming in here, for me personally I'm happy with touch ID. I'm not a fan of Face ID or a missing home button.
It's just my preference and my stance on productivity. I won't buy a future iPhone if they are like the iPhone X
TLDR: Home button, touch ID, or I'm out.
I care.
Why try to find fault? Because Apple changed from TouchID which worked fine to a camera that examines your face. It would be foolish NOT to compare. And these videos we see are very disturbing. I don't recall similar videos coming out when TouchID made its debut, showing how easy it is to trick TouchID. And guess what, despite the 1/50000 statistic, it's pretty darn hard to find another person who can unlock my iPhone with their fingerprint!
The only positive thing I can see from these videos is that maybe more people will create them, which will in turn get Apple working even harder on making FaceID more secure than TouchID in real-world use, even for twins or kids or brothers who wear glasses.
Just because we all love Apple and like its products doesn't mean we need to worship the company. Give praise where praise is due and pointed criticism when it is due. It's the obligation of any educated person.
With those buy everywhere contact lens printing kits lol
If only the Samsung had a fingerprint scanner too
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They messed with the settings, registered both faces, or kept entering the passcode while staring into the camera (which will register a 2nd face).
Not rocket science, just a bug that Apple needs to fix, or just allow multiple faces on each device
Hence it's clear that "1:1million" is not enough, as finding looks alike is much easier than finding people with similar fingerprints. Moreover, TouchID is much faster. It's clear that iPhoneX is just a beta test paid by the beta tester.
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FaceID (or passcodes, or TouchID) are not only meant to prevent "robbers" from accessing your device. In fact, this is not the most likely use case. They are mostly used to prevent people around you from seeing your stuff, and people around you often happen to be relatives, siblings etc. So FaceID needs to become much much better until it's a good replacement for TouchID, at the moment it is not.
You are missing that face ID has to fail 5 times to be disabled.
When doing risk analysis, probability is only one factor. Severity is an other one. Severity is much higher when someone stole your phone...
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The phone can ask for a password before the 5 try, so before face ID being disabled.
at least 2 hypothesis where face ID did not fail :
- they registered the two faces at setup,
- the second brother entered the password while the iphone was scaning his face soon after face ID was setup, so the phone does not have enough time to properly learn the owner face, plus the brothers being relatives, they share some ressemblance, plus one of the two brother is young, and Apple specified face ID is less good with youngs.
Again, face ID is based on training, so you can train it wrong.
He's okay, but you should seriously worry about your non-existent sense of humor.
Any bets on how long it will take for MacRumors to update the story?
(Don't get me wrong, I understand how important this type of fake news / FUD is to the bottom line of a modern website. Clicks = $$$. And MacRumors were early pioneers in this area of monetization with their promotion of an unsubstantiated forum comment to an FPP that grew into the fake 'bendgate' story. It's really my own error for expecting ethical journalism in this age of hype and anti-hype.)
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I am well aware of risk analysis as I do it part of my job, and I strongly disagree with the statement that severity is higher in case a robber has access to my phone. The card can be disabled with a phone call to the bank or a tap on the online banking website, everything else is just stuff that I consider private but that I don’t care much complete strangers have access to whereas I wouldn’t want relative or friends reading.
That's the battleground of Siri that machine-learns for the last 6 and a something years. In case you wonder, the more it's used the more it fails. Just for the fun of it, I'll assume you are one of the engineers behind the Apple's new facial recognition thingy (one in a Million chance), therefore you are right. The time will tell! I don't think those Youtoobers will ever stop trying to fool this poor but brave engineering marvel.
I bet you are not new to Macrumors, so you should know that if Apple put the finger sensor in the back people will moan about something else instead...
