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Apple is also overdue for a consumer class action lawsuit for overbearing and overreaching control of consumer owned devices paid in full. Apple blocks apps like free open source Retroarch because it's emulation but yet allows paid VMWare, Parallels, etc. It's my device and Apple has no say in what I can or can't run on it.

You may own the hardware, but you only have a license to use the software. By using iOS, you are bound by Apple’s terms.
 
There is not one bit of truth in Zuckerberg's comments. No way is there a monopoly, lack of innovation, or uniqueness among platforms about the 30% cut. None of these things are imposed on Fortnite. That is called lying.

Also, Facebook would be insignificant, like MySpace, without the innovation of the iPhone which has started an industry and enabled Facebook all these years.
 
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This is what i assume happens when you ask Mark Zuckerberg about Business Ethics.
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The same democratic process (aka mob rule) gave you slavery and racial segregation, the same popular vote put Hitler in power, so the voice of the people ain’t always the universal best way to go. “Common man” sense is a surprisingly inadequate tool for most national-level issues.
I can't disagree with that. I didn't say it was necessarily ideal or perfect though. However, as far as I can tell from history, it is the clear winner so far, as far as "winning" is, for we-the-people's best interests.

Regarding Hitler, keep in mind that he became a dictator from 1933-1945, in which time the war and the majority of atrocities occurred. Sure, two "elections" were held in that time, but both were completely rigged, "resulting" in a 99.8% win for the Nazi party.

History is a lesson for us all, as it can be useful in avoiding a repeat. However, to quote Hegel - "The only thing we learn from history that we do not learn from history.” Unfortunately I can see it unfolding in front of our eyes. And no, I don't mean all the current conspiracy theory crap getting around at the moment, those "woke" sheep are even more sheepy than the sheeple they claim to be woke from.
 
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So you are saying I can open a store on the Walmart grounds and sell the same good cheaper and pay only what I feel
is fair for rent ??? damn.
Of course you can't. But you can open a store nearby if you can find a suitable property for rent or sale that is zoned for retail shops, and then market similar products to the same customer base, and charge whatever price you like. It's a free country in that sense. But what you can't do, is open a department store in New York, and then declare that no-one else in New York is allowed to open a department store.
 
"Monopoly" is a diction-defined term:
Any business can be a "monopoly" if you define the relevant market narrowly enough. For example, BMW has a "monopoly" on car sales that take place inside BMW dealerships. But we'd all agree that the "market" in that context should be broader than BMW showrooms, right?

Same principle here. Apple can only be a "monopoly" if the relevant marketplace is defined as the iOS platform. But that's a stupidly narrow definition for market in this context.

Now, to your point, Apple may yet be found to be in violation of anti-trust laws. But they aren't a monopoly by any meaningful definition of that term.
[Rolls eyes]. Dictionary def does not equate to legal def.
 
You would think that Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would be trembling at all of this. If Apple is forced to allow 3rd party stores within the App Store you know that 100% Facebook, Epic and others will want the equivalent within Xbox Live, Sony and Nintendo stores.
 
It still has to be licensed with Microsoft. So you don't avoid any fees from Microsoft.

It sure is not the fee from Microsoft their App Store. Usually you can buy games cheaper outside Microsoft their own app store.
 
Apple's 30% cut is too high and it will likely be coming down soon.
How do you know that *for sure*? You don't know if Apple isn't only just breaking even on it. Let's say they're making 5% profit on it (which is hard to calculate due to staff salaries, hosting, bandwidth, development costs, support etc.), they could drop it by 5% and break even, but why should they? Why aren't they allowed to make money off their invention?

If Apple had set it at 15% when they introduced it, people would still be moaning that 15% is too high. It was set at 30% for a reason; one that none of us knows.
 
Really don’t understand how the EU is so quiet on this. They r usually really picky with these kind of things
Why should they? If the Bay Area wants to destroy itself, let them do it.
Many conflicts are coming to the surface in America these days... Currently it appears to be one of the most unpeaceful countries in the world...
This currently prevents intelligent immigrants from seeing the USA as an attractive destination.

Stupidity inspires only the stupid.

It will be exciting to see whether the situation changes fundamentally next year. Otherwise the intelligence will move to where it is peaceful and striving, for example in Europe (not UK, sorry orange utan II)...
 
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you can't deny he's right though.
Given that FB have said that this free period is for about a year (notice how little is actually said about that), I’ll say that he’s hypocritical in the extreme about this and all the other ways FB gouges small businesses (e.g. their appalling ad platform).

So yeah, I can absolutely categorically and without any concern state that I deny he’s right.
 
Being kicked out of iOS is exactly the same. You have the Android environment. You can keep selling on Android just like you can keep selling at Target.

Nobody cross shops between the iOS App Store and the Google Play Store. It's not at all the same as Walmart and Target.

Having the same products in both places doesn't mean they're in the same market.

Telling your customers that your product is a Target exclusive is not the same as saying your product is a Canadian exclusive. Most people who shop at Target or Walmart will also shop at the other. This is not the case for people who shop in the US or in Canada. Some people will shop in both. Most people don't. Because they're in different markets. The same as the iOS App Store and the Google Play Store are in different markets.
 
**** Zuckerberg. You're just pissed because you can't exploit people's personal info and sell it to the highest bidder. I have no empathy for Facebook and their shady practices.

But is he wrong about Apple here? I don't think so, and it's naive to write this off as him being pissed about not being able to do the ****** things his company keeps doing. Both can be true.
 
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Nobody cross shops between the iOS App Store and the Google Play Store. It's not at all the same as Walmart and Target.
Can you prove that statement? "Nobody" is a fairly broad brush to paint.
Having the same products in both places doesn't mean they're in the same market.
I know people who have cross-platform tech, with different apps on each device with some overlap. I disagree that people won't cross-shop the app stores...I've seen it done.
Telling your customers that your product is a Target exclusive is not the same as saying your product is a Canadian exclusive. Most people who shop at Target or Walmart will also shop at the other. This is not the case for people who shop in the US or in Canada. Some people will shop in both. Most people don't. Because they're in different markets. The same as the iOS App Store and the Google Play Store are in different markets.
The ios app store and google play store are in the same market and can be cross-shopped.
 
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Nobody cross shops between the iOS App Store and the Google Play Store. It's not at all the same as Walmart and Target.

Having the same products in both places doesn't mean they're in the same market.

Telling your customers that your product is a Target exclusive is not the same as saying your product is a Canadian exclusive. Most people who shop at Target or Walmart will also shop at the other. This is not the case for people who shop in the US or in Canada. Some people will shop in both. Most people don't. Because they're in different markets. The same as the iOS App Store and the Google Play Store are in different markets.

Since when?
I own Android and Apple and shop apps in both - sometimes have the same apps on both.
Sometimes I will buy an app on one but not the other due to cost or features.
I am more likely to subscribe on Android or via website than via iOS.

So no, I have to say your statement is incorrect.
 
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WOW! That’s deep😳. Does anyone know if this has ever been done before? On Google Play or other? Who paid how much to whom?

... and wouldn’t it only be all inception if the app store within the app store on the App Store would enable side loading?🤯

side loading another AppStore? 🤔
 
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