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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Outlines 'Vision and Principles' for Building a 'Privacy-Focused' Social Networking Platform

nzcatfood said:
Zuckerberg has repeatedly demonstrated that Facebook is not interested in user privacy and cannot be trusted.
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And it's not as if those were incidents that happened long ago! Hell, I was just reading about how you can't fully opt out of people looking you up via the phone number you gave them for two factor authentication (which they also use for advertising). My trust in Facebook and privacy is nil.
 
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Zuckerburg has got to where he is by being a highly skilled and savvy deceiver. He is NOT going to change.
 
"Quick, lets look as though we are doing something so governments don't force us or break us up. In the mean time grab as much info as you can so we use it in the future"
 
Cut to congressional hearings in late 2020. Zuckerberg will apologize profusely and promise he has learned from the latest privacy catastrophe and he’ll make TheftBook right. Promise, and I mean it this time! Yeah, okay, sure. LOL
 
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bladerunner2000 said:
Apple tried and failed miserably with Ping. Then tried again with Connect and failed miserably again.

I love it when these side projects for Apple crash and burn because it should serve as a reminder to focus their computers. Too bad they don't.
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Apple is just abound with failures, huh?

Tell me more about the most successful company on earth failing.
 
"Zuckerberg says that the company is working on ways to make messages more ephemeral, perhaps by deleting them after a month or a year by default,"
- a step in the right direction!!! Why should any company or another person hold onto messages forever?!
 
I absolutely believe Mark will follow through with this.

I also represent a certain Nigerian, who is looking for someone to help him get money out of Nigeria. He will pay a princely sum if you will help him out and send him $5000 right now.
 
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By privacy does he actually mean only him and everyone he sells your data to will see it. :rolleyes:
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TonyC28 said:
If Facebook is going to remain free to use, and the users are the product for sale, how can they truly make it totally private and secure?
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I say let him start charging say $100 a month per user so we can watch users leave in mass. Besides privacy issues, Facebook is just a huge waste of time imo.
 
Baymowe335 said:
Try to keep up. Copying Apple's (working) stance on privacy. FB has realized people are leaving its site bc they sell your data and track your every move.

NOW they are concerned about privacy?
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Sorry I don't really consider "privacy" something you "copy". You either do it or you don't. I don't think you can patent privacy. Even if you can you'd have to prove they are doing it in the same way as Apple.

I'm just tired of everyone in this forum accusing companies of copying Apple when they aren't and never admit when Apple copy's other ideas.

I'll try to keep up though. :rolleyes:
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jameslmoser said:
Exactly... Apple has tried. Remember Ping?
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I do and it was nowhere on the same level as Facebook that was purely an itunes music tool to connect to artist. Google + would be true example of copying Facebook who really copied Myspace who may have copied something else I have no idea how far it goes at this point.
 
JGIGS said:
Sorry I don't really consider "privacy" something you "copy". You either do it or you don't. I don't think you can patent privacy. Even if you can you'd have to prove they are doing it in the same way as Apple.

I'm just tired of everyone in this forum accusing companies of copying Apple when they aren't and never admit when Apple copy's other ideas.

I'll try to keep up though. :rolleyes:
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I do and it was nowhere on the same level as Facebook that was purely an itunes music tool to connect to artist. Google + would be true example of copying Facebook who really copied Myspace who may have copied something else I have no idea how far it goes at this point.
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You can absolutely copy the marketing of privacy. Apple is extremely vocal about its stance on privacy.
 
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Noctilux.95 said:
Zuckerberg must have read and inspired by Hitler's book, Human Rights.
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I rather think he has been inspired by Congress, even in an administration that has generally leaned towards deregulation. It's called trying to get out in front of the cowcatcher on the train coming towards him.
 
Good luck with this Zuck. I'll continue to avoid Facebook/Whatsapp/Instagram like the plague, but keep on, keepin' on.
 
Karllake said:
If it’s a subscription model with true privacy sign me up, the days of “something for free” are over as it’s becoming increasing clear it was never “free”, I hope this is a move by fb to implement a private and paid model before the completion does but I’m not very hopeful. The cynic in me thinks it will give the appearance of privacy, cost money and still be stealing data, zucker will apologise and the cycle will continue...
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That's definitely a large part of the problem. I don't trust Facebook at all, why would I pay them?
 
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Winter Charm said:
I actually laughed out loud. For this to happen, users must trust you. No one trusts Facebook.
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H2SO4 said:
Billions of people trust it enough to use it. Your statement is patently false.
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I think it's not false. I think trust is a pretty generous word, too generous, to describe how most people feel about using Facebook, even if they enjoy using it.

Further, I believe most people who are even the least bit savvy about data mining on the internet use Facebook with a certain air of resignation: their kids use it, their parents use it, their real friends and relatives use it, etc., and they all chide you if you don't sign up to use it too... your refusal to sign up means they end up having to email you, or they have to set up dropbox links for party photos.

Many don't think about it at all, so at best it's "trust by default" -- because they're young and may think it doesn't matter to have it "all out there".

And some have even bought into Zuc's wayback statements about the concept of privacy itself being "so over"... when he was first rolling Facebook out to the public. If you bought that idea, then in my book you weren't a trusting sort of person, just gullible in allowing someone else to redefine a perfectly good word.

:D by the way i think it's hilarious how Wikipedia starts out its entry on Privacy. I am not sure that Mark Zuckerberg would be as amused.

Privacy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Privacy (disambiguation).
Not to be confused with Piracy.
​
 
A couple applicable clichés:

Too little, (way, way) too late.

Fool me once... shame on you, fool me twice shame... on me

**** Facebook
 
I would whole heartedly embrace a new social media platform, but how likely is it that one will emerge? Instagram did it with photo filters. Snapchat with disappearing messages and gifs. WhatsApp did it with wifi messaging. Vine with short videos, twitter with text, periscope with live video feeds. Some of those were bought by facebook, and some killed off when facebook implemented the features into their own platforms.

Maybe a group of the star content creators/aggregators of instagram with their tens of millions of followers could just promote a new platform. Like if ****jerry and thefatjewish said come follow us on "yyz", it has this "pqr" feature, your mom's not on it, and we don't sell ads! I think they should do it, worst case scenario zuk buys it from them
 
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