They tried and failedFacebook should just make their own phone.
Facebook today shared its earnings for the fourth quarter of 2020, and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's opening remarks were focused on Apple's upcoming anti-tracking privacy changes that will impact the advertising industry and companies like Facebook that rely heavily on online advertising.
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As highlighted by The Washington Post, Zuckerberg claimed that Apple is changing its privacy policy not to help people, but to further its own interests.
"Apple has every incentive to use their dominant platform position to interfere with how our apps and other apps work, which they regularly do," said Zuckerberg. "They say they are doing this to help people, but the moves clearly track their competitive interests."
Zuckerberg said that Facebook sees Apple as one of its biggest competitors, claiming that the privacy changes will help Apple services like iMessage and FaceTime that compete with Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp.
"iMessage is a key linchpin of their ecosystem," said Zuckerberg. "It comes pre-installed on every iPhone and they preference it with private APIs and permissions, which is why iMessage is the most used messaging service in the U.S."
Zuckerberg also once again said that Apple's changes are going to impact small businesses, which is a claim that Facebook has been leaning on as it campaigns against Apple's planned changes. Facebook has previously published newspaper ads and shared blog posts explaining how Apple's iOS 14 ad-tracking changes will have a "harmful impact on many small businesses that are struggling to stay afloat."
Facebook has previously claimed that Apple's move is "about profit," and that it will leave apps and websites with no choice but to charge subscription fees or add in-app purchases to make ends meet, leading to increased App Store revenue.
Apple is not backing down despite Facebook's complaints and has plans to implement the new tracking rules in the near future. When made a requirement, apps that track usage through a random advertising identifier will need to ask users if they want to share their information for ad tracking purposes.
Advertisers use the random advertising identifier to serve up personalized ads and to track ad campaigns, but the ad industry expects that many people will opt not to share this information.
Apple says that users should be aware of when their data is being collected and shared across other apps and websites, and should have the choice to opt in or opt out. "We believe that this is a matter of standing up for our users," Apple has said in response to Facebook's claims.
Article Link: Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Says Apple's Privacy Changes are Self-Serving and Anti-Competitive
Those two sentences are possibly the most hypocritical bad-faith arguments I have ever read. And that is really saying something in today's world.Zuck said:Apple has every incentive to use their dominant platform position to interfere with how our apps and other apps work, which they regularly do. They say they are doing this to help people, but the moves clearly track their competitive interests.
Sounds about right to me. I guess we have until 1 May before he pounds the final nail into what used to be a great App. I started the transition about two weeks ago by suggesting Signal to my family and friends. I am concerned that once Signal acquires a substantial user base, Facebook tries to buy it.Sounds like the whining of someone who's sore about the WhatsApp exodus to Signal.
Gotta let the mob behavior reset. FB has failed at PR.Why isn’t anybody standing up and supporting Facebook . I just don’t understand.
I've been a Facebook proponent for years. But now I share the sentiment. It's grown out of control. The entire social media "bubble" I feel is going to pop. That goes for all Facebook properties mores than others. It's not that social media won't be important I just think the business models they use will be forced to change. Especially as people grow hip to the technology and government begins to regulate.Those two sentences are possibly the most hypocritical bad-faith arguments I have ever read. And that is really saying something in today's world.
A guy running a platform used by more than one out of every three human beings on the planet that is possibly the most damaging single tool ever to happen to human civilization, and certainly the worst thing ever to happen to human civility, the 8th most valuable company on the planet with exactly the same gross margins as Apple, and notorious for blatantly violating laws, privacy, and basic human decency in the pursuit of profit... is whining about competitive interests because Apple wants people to know what information they're giving Facebook.
This entire, screeching, pathetic thing is because Apple is telling people what Facebook is doing with their data. That's it.
Apple doesn't even have a competing platform! They don't even plan to have a competing platform! They literally just want to tell people what info Facebook is harvesting from them.
If just telling your own users how you make money is an open assault on your entire business model, you don't have a business model, you have a criminal enterprise.
FB has weak PR, and the mob has massed.Hmmm... normally when you get an article like this you get people having it out on the forums featuring both sides of the argument. It’s all one way here. Does anybody support FB on this?
(I don’t. I don’t even have a FB account).
There isn’t any special “Facebook Only” privacy rules, every app is supposed to follow them. If you think Apple’s rules are limiting companies you use and the Apps are too expensive then you have options. Go ahead and use them.If it's really "for the benefit of iPhone users", I dare you Apple to eliminate or at least significantly reduce your commissions from app subscriptions!
But no you won't do that because Zuckerberg is right. You're doing it for business. No advertising, means more compelled subscription, more app store revenue. It's OK to do business strategy like that but please STOP using us (or the environment) to justify your business tactics because we all know that's not really true. It's already irritating that the world thinks iPhone users are dumb, what's even more irritating is Apple itself thinks its users are dumb that they can easily be tricked believe and follow whatever Apple say.
And by the way, the apps in the App Store cost twice or sometimes even 4 times higher than the same app on Android. Subscriptions are mostly higher too than the same app subscriptions from Google's play store. Isn't Apple not satisfied yet?
(MacBook Pro and iPhone 12 owner)