I believe the point of the store is to provide some sort of “sense of safety” to the user who is downloading the application. The idea being that if someone is testing the apps in some way, they are inherently more safe to download to your device than something you randomly come across on the internet, for examples sake. Open to interpretation, obviously.
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Facebook Claims Apple is Damaging Small Businesses by Collecting Fees From Paid Facebook Events
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I believe the point of the store is to provide some sort of “sense of safety” to the user who is downloading the application. The idea being that if someone is testing the apps in some way, they are inherently more safe to download to your device than something you randomly come across on the internet, for examples sake. Open to interpretation, obviously.
Wrong. We get hit with fees. So now we take measures steps to avoid our customers using FB in this regard.
It is an "App Store". I think Apple is fair in taking a cut of app revenue.
It gets a little dicier when arguably the value of Facebook is the service -- and not necessarily the app, which is similar between iOS and Android -- so why should Apple take a cut of the service revenue?
Apple should be paid with influencer exposure lol
So your whole premise is they have a lot of money, mind you none of their products are one of a kind so people happily pay for their stuff because they're that good which made them that successful. Unlike Concast that everyone hates but have no choice but to pay them like a mafia pizzo in order to get online, let alone net neutrality out the window which makes it even worse....
Wrong again
This is a new service from FB, not any of their existing services
Its clear as day in the story
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Facebook is claiming that Apple is hurting small business owners, but Facebook hides posts from people that have liked your Page unless you pay to promote your posts....
I wouldn't have to if people bothered to read the story first before making false claims
Things are getting really interesting now and I wonder how Apple will market their way out of it. I have zero doubt they WILL, but curious how.
And, I wonder what would happen if developer unilaterally pass on those 30% commission fee to customer from the very beginning? Both on App Store and Play Store.
For everyone who says those companies are skirting paying Apple fees for support, I highly doubt that’s their true intention. What they demand is more like a better fee structure that don't hurt developer too much regardless of business size and force Apple provide actually better service instead of leveraging their platform advantage to limit developers introducing competing solutions that are much better.
Do keep in mind though. This issue is not as simple as a lot of people may think. Stop believing it is either black or white, It is not, and situation can be a lot complicated.
And, I wonder what would happen if developer unilaterally pass on those 30% commission fee to customer from the very beginning? Both on App Store and Play Store.
For everyone who says those companies are skirting paying Apple fees for support, I highly doubt that’s their true intention. What they demand is more like a better fee structure that don't hurt developer too much regardless of business size and force Apple provide actually better service instead of leveraging their platform advantage to limit developers introducing competing solutions that are much better.
Do keep in mind though. This issue is not as simple as a lot of people may think. Stop believing it is either black or white, It is not, and situation can be a lot complicated.
And that is the wonderful "iOS" Experience ?
Throw away all your apps! If you want to save some money, just use the good old browser!
Facebook is only waiving the fee for small businesses for the next year. You can bet they'll be looking to take a cut if it proves successful. This waived fee isn't likely because they're supporting small businesses as they claim, but about getting people in the door and relying on it, so when they do add a fee, people are less likely to stop using it.
If there was a fee upfront, most wouldn't bother using it. If they get used to using it and build their business on it (such as weekly trivia or yoga classes), then when a fee is added, it'll be much harder to say "Forget this." and go find another option, rather than continuing to do what they've already become accustomed to (not to mention the pain in moving to another platform and finding free provider).
It also is giving them an opportunity to make someone else look like the bad guy for once. They've been trying hard to focus the blame on someone other than themselves for a while now, as they continue to generate bad press.
If there was a fee upfront, most wouldn't bother using it. If they get used to using it and build their business on it (such as weekly trivia or yoga classes), then when a fee is added, it'll be much harder to say "Forget this." and go find another option, rather than continuing to do what they've already become accustomed to (not to mention the pain in moving to another platform and finding free provider).
It also is giving them an opportunity to make someone else look like the bad guy for once. They've been trying hard to focus the blame on someone other than themselves for a while now, as they continue to generate bad press.
This is easy to fix. If Facebook believes so strongly that the fees are hurting small businesses, then Facebook should put its (seemingly limitless) money where its mouth is, and absorb those fees themselves, without passing them on to the small businesses. It's important, right? RIGHT? Problem solved.
Does long term motivation matter when they are in the right? I hate Facebook as much as the next person. The story from yesterday about stuff they abandoned in the ocean while laying fiber was another example of them being in the wrong.... but no one is required to use this service from facebook. If companies use it for a year during the free period, good for them.
You are right about the platform and the store. I definitely know the difference. Walmart would still not be happy if Coca-Cola started a cheap store next to their store. Would Walmart stop selling Coca-Cola?
Not likely, because Walmart is a convenience.... you don't generally go to the store for just coke. Nike and others have their own outlet stores; doesn't stop Walmart from carrying them.
Nobody said Apple wasn't entitled to a commission on the purchase. They're certainly not entitled to 30% though. THAT is the main issue. You use a credit card at a business, they're paying ~2-5%. You sell an item on Amazon, you're paying ~12-15%. 30% is just astronomically high. Shoot, credit cards are limited by law to have a max APR of 29.99% percent due to 30% being seen as predatory. There simply is no way to justify Apple's stance on this.
Collecting fees is the only thing Facebook is not collecting from their users.
This is getting interesting by the day. It seems large companies suddenly see an advantage in going hard against Apple. Whatever their reasons, they all seem to think now is the time.
I wouldn't be surprised if this escalates to something more prior to iOS 12's official launch and the newest iPhone, if that is the plan all along. I may be reading to much into it, but the companies fighting Apple also seem to be feeling each other out, seeing who is willing to do what through press releases. I can't tell if it's in reaction to the recent tech hearing on Capitol Hill or in anticipation of Apple's fall product refresh. Just odd all around.
I wouldn't be surprised if this escalates to something more prior to iOS 12's official launch and the newest iPhone, if that is the plan all along. I may be reading to much into it, but the companies fighting Apple also seem to be feeling each other out, seeing who is willing to do what through press releases. I can't tell if it's in reaction to the recent tech hearing on Capitol Hill or in anticipation of Apple's fall product refresh. Just odd all around.
The Apple Kool-Aid has never be this strong. This is mind-blowing. People actually do not want competition that would make choice and lower prices possible, and rather happily give 30% of all their purchases to Apple rather than most of it going back to developers. Apparently, **** developers that try to make a living of it. Apple is genius into milking its userbase with their whole consent.
I have not much sympathy for Facebook but in that case they are right.
This will be the decade of developers (big or small) revolting about the Apple-Google duopoly software distribution mafia, mark my words. This will be regulated at some point as the situation becomes more and more untenable, and hard. You have a handful of powerful execs at Apple and Google taking hostage the whole mobile software development industry with an arrogance and hubris that knows no limit. Developers are more and more pissed, the ressentment is strong, and that's not healthy for the mid and long term.
An angry indie developer.
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Except that's not the case.
When a business owner schedules an event through Facebook on iOS, Facebook will make it clear that Apple is taking a 30 percent cut of the purchase price. Facebook is waiving its own fees for the feature "for at least the next year."
Agreed. I love Apple and hate Facebook but some of the top comments here fail to understand the issue. The issue is that Apple is taking a 30% cut from small businesses who setup these classes, not Facebook.
The idea that something like Facebook can even exist as a business is far more worrying to me than some argument over collection fees. They are the epitome of everything that is wrong with the web.
So a year from now will Facebook issue a press release that it is hurting small businesses by charging a fee for them to book events on the Facebook platform?