Well those of us who have risen above that, have been there with lots of friends in the industry. Please remember that blue collar workers make $45+ per hour.
Why are you so sorry brother?
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Well those of us who have risen above that, have been there with lots of friends in the industry. Please remember that blue collar workers make $45+ per hour.
Why are you so sorry brother?
And that's where most of us will stop reading. Do you really think that using such dumb alternatives for company names adds weight or credibility to your posts?
You lost me right there. Regardless of your opinion.
That's not the point that was raised. While per device is an interesting question to pursue, it's likely to not be "discoverable" publicly. The point of my reply was to illustrate the absurdity of the hyperbolic comment. And a simple google search was all that was needed.
So many posts, and only this one seems to even come close to the actual topic.
THIS IS THE LAW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT:
This law, created back in 1887 (a time of much simpler products, and when $250 was a large sum) allows awarding the ENTIRE PROFITS of another company's sales if a SINGLE design patent is infringed. It was originally passed to help a carpet designer get a higher award.
Strictly interpreted, even a single icon is enough.
Remember when Apple used the Swiss railroad clock design? Now imagine if the Swiss had decided to take Apple to court and demand the entire profits that Apple made off all iPhones that had included this image. Does anyone think that's fair? Obviously not.
The point these companies are making, is that this archaic take-it-all provision has no place being applied to modern products composed of thousands of design features.
Note that before that 1887 law, design patents were treated the same as utility patents, where awards are based on the contribution of a patent to the entire product, a doctrine which Apple's lawyers totally support when they are sued by patent trolls seeking high damages from Apple.
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Lets get it right shall we? Mac OS was derived from Xerox PARC. Windows was "derived" from Mac OS. At least Apple paid for the technology they used. Xerox dumped the PARC project before Apple released the Mac. Their loss.
"Instead of calling people fanboys..." OK, maybe this post will bring a level-headed, non-biased opinion to this thread!
10 words later, "Samescum". Nope!
Sorry that you can't handle the truth. You should read up on the tactics of the great samsung. Makes the Italian mafia look like girl scouts.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war
There's a class action suit against Apple and Samsung right now by consumers who are emotionally hurt by their fanboy company is being sued too often. They complain that these two companies need to stop copying and suing. It's for $1.5 trillion dollars and free phone of choice.
You equate the use of a clock face to the blatant ripping off of OS, style, materials, IP patents? REALLY?? Apple did end up paying, did they not, without being sued? I know you're an apologist for samsung, but you're grasping at straws. I see your hobby of Apple bashing has reached new lows. You can't defend samsung for ever you know.
Just vote with your wallets. Go and get the one item which better fits with your needs. Take a look at your options (economical resources, daily use, features) and buy whatever thing you like, can afford, and go enjoy yourself.
I really can't see the point of such dramatic posts (criminals, traitors, scum...
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I really can't see the point of such dramatic posts (criminals, traitors, scum...
)I never said anything about what was valid or not. I simply started that I stopped reading your post because of your childish comment.
You clearly know nothing about KDarling or his experience in the industry or what he was commenting on. How sad for you.
How can they win when they've lost, twice on the same case? They got caught, clear as day. Only an idiot fool would root for such a criminal company like Samsung.
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precicely. Modern tech patents are abusing a system that generally was not intended for such purposes.
Patents were built for the methodology for completing an action. Not the completion of an action.
An Analogy of how broken it is:
Action: Hammering a nail into something.
Method: a device, with long handle, with a heavy hard shaped end, in shape of an anvil that can translate force into impact.
In non-tech patents, the Action is NOT patentable. The METHOD is.
in Tech Patents, its opposite. Sometime in the past, the courts deemed, for some inexplicable reason, you couldn't patent code. So, in the end, patents get awarded to the ACTION instead.
"swipe to unlock" is the action itself. its equivalent to driving a nail into wood. there are many ways to accomplish this action. Therefore, if you can accomplish this, without using the same METHOD as the other person, you should still be allowed to.
Could you imagine the inventor of the hammer, stopping everyone else and suing them for inventing some other way of putting a nail into wood? That sounds ludicrous doesn't it? we'd have no advanced hammers, we'd have no automated or power driven nail guns. the whole industry would likely have stopped because, the ACTION itself was patented and only one company could do it.
That is equivalent of what is happening here. For Example: The "Swipe to unlock" patent is actually worded as "the action of moving one defined object on a display to another region of the display to unlock"
Now there have been proven to be multiple ways of implementing such, that are all uniquely different from eachother. Moving an unlock picture out of a circle, moving a pattern around the screen in an unlock pattern. Moving the entire display upwards to unlock. These all technically fall under the same action of "swipe to unlock" but achieve this method in entirely different ways, with entirely different code.
It's a patent on the wrong part of an activity, and the Patent office is the biggest problem in all this for allowing such patents in the first place.
Nothing like iFans vs Samsung fans arguing over a case that has nothing to do with them.
So how did you feel about Apple when they were found guilty in colluding with publishers? Did they get a free pass from you?
No - I don't use the word fanboy - and if I do - it's in quotes are to criticize those that do. I don't need to read up on anything. Your logic fail is in that you assume I don't know anything about the players in this industry. Which is extremely hilarious.
the guy signed up on friday and read his post history... you're arguing with someone who clearly has agenda.
just ignore
You might not know this because you just joined. There was a design overhaul that made the ignore function for posters much easier to find. It might be wise to adapt your way of conversing here otherwise you will find yourself alone here very quickly.
Everyone should do their own research. The origin of both Mac and windows OS is the Xerox project, and i have seen people twist the facts around this so much in MR over the years. Without xerox parc there would be no mac os and no windows as as we know it.
And every generation along the way, Mac OS and Windows OS have been copying each others features.
I am saddened by the surplus of Ad Homenim on these forums...both to the companies and people of the forums.
Google is by far second rate. Google has THE MOST comprehensive and powerful search algorithm in the world, which changes by the minute. Google's creative minds invented auto-complete. They modernized internet advertising and consumer tracking and ppc operations, magnificent wonders of Google Fiber Fiber and MAPS. All of which are features and products much too important to take for granted and simply dismiss. Google search is more than enough to qualify them as first rate. Both apple are Google FIRST RATE.
Thank you so much. I appreciatee you.
Google is by far second rate. Google has THE MOST comprehensive and powerful search algorithm in the world, which changes by the minute. Google's creative minds invented auto-complete. They modernized internet advertising and consumer tracking and ppc operations, magnificent wonders of Google Fiber Fiber and MAPS. All of which are features and products much too important to take for granted and simply dismiss. Google search is more than enough to qualify them as first rate. Both apple are Google FIRST RATE.
Thank you so much. I appreciatee you.
Correct!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIMP_(computing)
was designed back in 1980. and has together been worked on and advanced, AND USED by just about every GUI since.
I don't own a Samsung and or HTC phone. I don't particularly like either of those companies. But what I dislike even more is a bunch of Apple fan boys getting there panties in a wad over nothing