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Facebook... now even your kernel processes are grist for their data collection and analysis. They'll know everything you're doing, right down to how often you change the brightness of your screen.
 
Fragmentation is not really about what the X device can do that the Y device cannot. It's about devices sharing the same operating system but still look different, behaving different, offering an overall different experience to the user. Even if you are able to make device X - with some effort - look exactly as device Y when out-of-the-box, that's still fragmentation.

Why should every Android phone look exactly the same? It's called choice. And if you don't like how the UI of your Android phone looks like you can customize it or even download another launcher that looks completely different, for free, and use that as default. (Just like you can do if you don't like the default browser, messaging app, mail app, calender app etc.). You choose how your phone should look and behave, you don't have someone else forcing a look or app on you as default, letting you know what you really like and not allowing you to have a free choice.

I still can't understand why this lack of option and customization is a good thing and something that makes iOS better.

Google licenses android to any phone manufacturer pays for it, no questions asked, no real standards enforced. /QUOTE]

Are you sure about that? Source?

Therefor you'll find a big variety of h/w, varying from awful to high quality. But still, they are sharing the same applications, meaning these applications look different and behaving slightly different to each device. Now, that's the definition of fragmentation.

Yes, big and small, expensive and cheap. Your personal preference/size of wallet direct you to different phones. But you can still have most of the apps and functions, whichever Android phone you buy.

Are you sure the same app looks different on different Android phones and behaves differently? I can't remember noticing this the 3-4 years I used different Android phones. The UI are customized by most brands and/or the user which means that colors and things might look and work differently. But the apps still look the same, independent of the phone you use.
 
There's a large number of "hyper-social" people that check facebook 6 times every 15 minutes! (Quote from Nokia)
This sort of stuff will be good for them.
 
There's a large number of "hyper-social" people that check facebook 6 times every 15 minutes! (Quote from Nokia)
This sort of stuff will be good for them.

A lot of people buy smartphones for the social aspect, whatsapp, facebook, twitter and the other random ones and thats basically the whole use they have.

So yeah it will work just fine for facebook.
 
These first few responses certainly tell the tale of Apple disciples. No room for discussion, no intelligent dialog about preferences and ideas. Nothing but negative responses.

Me?

I cannot comment as I have never used Facebook, nor do I have the slightest interest in what appears to be a massive time sink.

However I don't need to "hate it" or slam Zuck for making an attempt at improving his product.

I happen to enjoy the free enterprise environment.

It's interesting that you would post this. Every single day on MR there are tons of trolls pissing in Apple's coffee. Oh don't let there be any amount of news that might appear to be positive towards Apple, the trolls come out here day and night. Oh and certainly there better not be something negative about Apple in the news, it's cake and ice cream day for trolling on MR and there's never any room for discussion. This site is for Apple enthusiasts, not Apple haters.

If you've never used Facebook then cut people slack here for hating on it. Many, including myself, have good reason for not posting positives about it. Zuck also screwed a lot of people during the FB IPO. If you don't know anything about FB it's unfair of you to slam people for posting their responses.
 
No handset maker pays to use Android.

You can't get access to Google Play (Play Store, Gmail, etc) unless you you license it from Google. The Android OS itself is free but not the Google Services that come along with it.

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I do like how Facebook kept saying it's not about the apps, it's about the people. This is one area where iOS is falling behind. Using iOS is all about opening and closing apps. There is no integration within the apps and homescreen to provide a centralized set of services. That being said, the last thing I want is a homescreen that only works with Facebook. If it was all of my social networks into one homescreen, I could see that being useful.

Plus, the ability to message back without opening the app is a nice feature.
 
You know Facebook is free?

Actually, it's not. At least not if you value your mind. Facebook sells access to your mind to advertisers, who bombard you with their ads and track your activities, messages, friend list, interactions, purchases, etc. When you use an app or device or anything that puts ads in front of your eyes or tracks your personal information, you are paying a price. Maybe if more people valued their own consciousness and privacy more, these companies wouldn't be so successful at dominating so much mindshare. Of course, there will always be those who are willing to sell themselves to advertisers - for as little as $20 (e.g. - Kindle "with special offers" vs. without)
 
Soccer moms and teens will flock to Android. Big deal.

I can't wait until something new comes along and turns FB into AOL.
 
Facebook is really over reaching. Zuckerberg wanted to be more than an app on your phone? ... It should stay that way.
 
If you've never used Facebook then cut people slack here for hating on it. Many, including myself, have good reason for not posting positives about it. Zuck also screwed a lot of people during the FB IPO. If you don't know anything about FB it's unfair of you to slam people for posting their responses.

You've made some excellent points, well taken :)
 
You can't get access to Google Play (Play Store, Gmail, etc) unless you you license it from Google. The Android OS itself is free but not the Google Services that come along with it.
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No mate they dont to pay any google services and also the end user, handset makers probably pay small fee (not sure how much) for each phone they ship due to patents to microsoft and oracle (others too).
 
So does it mean i need to have my boss on my facebook to get his/her contact or their facebook to be able to view their contact?
 
Zuck has drawn the line in the sand.

As much as I don't like the guy, timing is on his side. There's a lot of iPhone users that've waited patiently for Apple to get into the present with the 4.7 ~ 4.8" display size.

They now have one more reason to stop waiting & buy Android. With the very nice Galaxy S3 going on sale at half off, Apple may lose more customers that they can fathom.

It's my understanding I'm in a very rare position, not being a Facebook member. There was a lot of buzz about Facebook Home at work today.

Of the 80 people in my building alone, at least half are already on Android, with the rest on iPhones yet they are obsessed with their Facebook activities. All very well paid, switching to Android is easy for them. Quick too, since its a money is no object purchase. Upgrade eligible or not.

After the reveal of "Home" today, I heard a lot of excitement and interest expressed.

This... Ought to be extremely interesting.
 
No doubt this kind of social interconnection is the future, but I still don't want it that pervasive in my present. I do use FB a lot, but it's nice to be able to shut this ****** off.
 
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