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Facebook Lobbying for Option to Make Messenger Default on iOS

ruka.snow said:
How about he just shuts down Facebook, it is past its time and it is a bit daft to try to hold onto some from of relevancy when people have long since moved on. It would be like Microsoft trying to get MSN Messenger or Skype as a default install option.
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You say this, yet they have 2.2 billion active users a month. It's not "past its prime" for many people.

So many people on this forum live in their own little bubble thinking that their online activities mirror everyone else. It's why there's almost no serious discussion anymore.
 
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bdub786 said:
So they want to give users the option to let FB Messenger (instead of Apple Messages) handle SMS messages? I follow. I wouldn’t go for it personally, but I get why FB would push for it. Thanks for explaining.
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Aye and the other danger here that we are heading to is a case where your AT&T iPhone has Facebook messenger pre installed and unremovable as a default with the Epic Game Store next to it. These companies know that the pre install deals of old are where the real money is as people won't go out of their way to install other stores and messenger apps on mass.
 
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I am pretty amazed at the sense of entitlement these organizations have. I feel like if devs and companies had it their way, you’re phone would come out of the box with zero apps lmao “muh anticompetitive!!”

I hope Apple locks down even further. At the end of the day, all this recent hype about Apples “abusive” policies is such fake news. These companies want more money, full stop. They try to hide behind their fake altruistic intentions, but it’s all fake.
 
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Mark is weird, it’s obv he doesn’t like apple, we are still waiting for dark mode on Facebook 2 years later, I’m really disliking him
 
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redgreenski said:
Yeah so you can sell my data and advertising companies... no thank you.
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Apples gets paid $12B/year by Google to do the same thing by making them the default search engine on iOS. How is allowing Facebook to be the default messenger app any worse? Because Apple doesn't get paid billions to do so?
 
bdub786 said:
I still don’t follow the advantage of being the “default” messaging app? If you prefer Messenger or anything else, hide iMessages in your App Library and only use Messenger? Changing a default email client makes sense because if I click an email address in safari, I want it to compose an email in my default email app. I’m not following the analogous situation in messaging, where my iMessage handle is different than my Messenger handle. What am I missing? Thanks.
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To me this reads as they also want to handle SMS/texts as the default app. And the problem I have with that is it means even if I don’t use it, Facebook will have the ability to learn more about me if anyone who texts me does use it. And their privacy record sucks. Consider that they got pissed at apple’s privacy protections because it cuts into their ad revenue. Or the time the removed people’s ability to keep what groups they were in private without real notice and ended up outing a bunch of people to their families.
 
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redgreenski said:
Yeah so you can sell my data and advertising companies... no thank you.
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Um, no, Facebook doesn’t sell data to anyone. Neither does Google.

They are massive advertising companies themselves and it’s in their highest interests to keep all that data to themselves.

But no thanks to Zuckerberg’s demand.

Who is he anyway to demand these kind of things? The last time I checked he didn’t work as iOS product development leader, or even at Apple?

How about Facebook create their own mobile platform. Then they are free to set Messenger as default, or do whatever they want. Maybe replace the whole home screen with Facebook App..

These ”We demand Apple to...” news are getting crazier and crazier by the day, especially when you consider that iOS global marketshare is less than 15%.
 
Who the f would want this? A messenger is openend generally by push notifications, not by default linking from a website unlike an email client (mailto: ) or yes a Map. So how about letting Google Maps default before a dumb messenger app?
 
Can’t find the sound byte, but this is preceicely what Craig described during his MKBHD video. If they open up default apps to everybody, you’re prone to bad actors serving spam or intruding on your privacy.
 
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Zuck, go zuck yourself and your zucking crap platform.

Your messaging app doesn’t need to be default for it to work. As long as users have one of your FB/IG accounts they get messages regardless.
 
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Lol he needs to relax!! no one wants messenger as their default app. FB is lucky Apple is giving him until 2021 to pay his bills!! Take a page out of Kenny Rogers book 📖 🎼
 
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Anybody who sends me a Facebook message gets an eventual reply (when I happen to log in on a web browser and notice it) via text or email. If there was a way to set up an auto reply telling everyone I never use messenger, I’d do that.
 
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Well, Im sure most people know how to switch out the icons in the iPhone dock if they prefer Facebook to have all their messages. That should be enough.😏
 
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