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Umm...how can it be a default App when its not installed on any of my IOS devices, an never will be.
 
Also, unlike E-mail clients and web browsers, you don't generally click on a "messaging link" (like a URL or an E-mail address) to message someone, so there's no real benefit to being the "default" messaging app on a device. I use Telegram, Microsoft Teams and iMessage and none of them feel more "default" than any other.
That’s what I don’t understand, either. What’s a „default messaging app“ even supposed to be? When I get a Threeme message, I open Threema. When I get an iMessage, I open iMessage. When would iOS ever open the „default messaging app“? As long as there is no common standard for messages, it doesn’t make sense.
 
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non-FB messages through messenger
How do you send non-fb msg over messenger? If you set one particular IM as default, then you will use that IM as your primary IM. If you need to send in a different IM, then you need to launch that directly. Just like if you want to send messenger msg, the default app currently is iMessage, you will need to close iMessage and open up Messenger manually.
 
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How do you send non-fb msg over messenger? If you set one particular IM as default, then you will use that IM as your primary IM. If you need to send in a different IM, then you need to launch that directly. Just like if you want to send messenger msg, the default app currently is iMessage, you will need to close iMessage and open up Messenger manually.
SMS over messenger. This is why Facebook wants this, so it will me the default SMS message app.
 
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Lmfao! He has lost his dam mind. What about those in a professional environment? You think I’m going to message my clients in messenger or what’sapp??? Who the f does he think he is? why doesn’t he go fix the mess he has on his hands (I.e Cambridge analytica, breach of user information,) I’m telling you between epic and Facebook I don’t know who is the bigger man child. But at the end of the day, that’s what they will ever be. What a joke.
 
They want access to SMS messages that’s all this is about.
This! It’s all about user data.

And there’s also security concerns. The problem is today, a LOT of things rely on your phone number as a security measure, eg. OTP for financial transactions. Not saying Facebook is eyeing on these, but imagine the potential for phishing for unsuspecting people since the differentiation has been blurred.
 
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That would be a no for me dawg..
Okay that you should have the ability to change some default apps and customize your setup but letting Messenger in as a man in the middle between frequently used sms codes and the user? Hell no..
 
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Facebook - The company that has been a menace to the society. just like Twitter. Facebook and Twitter has created many "Keyboard warriors" than any other application. The amount of time people waste on these apps is amazing with ZERO to negative returns. Some might argue it makes them happy looking at other people's pictures and love to trash authorities. These 2 apps are going to be the downfall of human kind. It will start here. I was addicted too. 2 years back I decided to give myself a gift of time - DELETED FACEBOOK, TWITTER, INSTAGRAM and WHATSAPP. Life could not be better.

Give it a try.
and I'm getting so close to closing and deleting it off my phone forever as well.. getting fed up of adverts appearing on my stream of things I have been talking about with other people without the app actually being open
 
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Lmfao! He has lost his dam mind. What about those in a professional environment? You think I’m going to message my clients in messenger or what’sapp??? Who the f does he think he is? why doesn’t he go fix the mess he has on his hands (I.e Cambridge analytica, breach of user information,) I’m telling you between epic and Facebook I don’t know who is the bigger man child. But at the end of the day, that’s what they will ever be. What a joke.
You did read that he's trying to make it an OPTION to be the default messaging app, just like you have an OPTION to set a different browser or email client as the default app?

You're not being forced to use FB Messenger.
 
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All Apple has to do is open iMessage to other platforms and they can instantly crush everything else out there.
I would also be fine with this.

For all of Facebook's many flaws, the Messenger app is way more fully featured than iMessage and it is, for better or worse, the preferred option for my family and friends for large group chats. Our "Family" Messenger chat goes constantly all day long with parents, grandparents, grandchildren, kids, spouses, etc. Only 1 person in that chat is on an Android device.
 
You did read that he's trying to make it an OPTION to be the default messaging app, just like you have an OPTION to set a different browser or email client as the default app?

You're not being forced to use FB Messenger.

I did read it and I still don’t agree.
For those who love the idea... we do have the other option... Android. In my field of work, NO ONE and I mean NO ONE would dare send you a message in messenger - you would get laughed at. But then again to each his own.
 
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and I'm getting so close to closing and deleting it off my phone forever as well.. getting fed up of adverts appearing on my stream of things I have been talking about with other people without the app actually being open

I’m right there with you! Preach 🙌🏼
 
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The only way I would ever have Facebook on my iPhone or iPad is by avoiding any app from FB and creating my own homepage shortcut to FB's desktop site. And never using Messenger. The apps literally get into everything. But I feel I'm just a faint voice in the wind. Most Americans are all about convenience and are quite prepared to surrender their privacy for it.
 
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Gross! No one using iOS would want Facebook Messenger as their default messenging app...that sounds more like an android user request. Facebook just stick to what you are good at! Selling the users privacy data to third party companies.
 
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I did read it and I still don’t agree.
For those who love the idea... we do have the other option... Android. In my field of work, NO ONE and I mean NO ONE would dare send you a message in messenger - you would get laughed at. But then again to each his own.
Which is exactly why YOU would keep Messages as YOUR default messaging app. I don't understand your thinking that no one would want the option to use FB Messenger as THEIR default messaging app?

Mind you, I don't use it and never will, but having the option to make the apps that YOU use as default apps is how it should be.
 
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Which is exactly why YOU would keep Messages as YOUR default messaging app. I don't understand your thinking that no one would want the option to use FB Messenger as THEIR default messaging app?

Mind you, I don't use it and never will, but having the option to make the apps that YOU use as default apps is how it should be.
Android allows you to change the default SMS app.

I don’t understand why you want to force this behavior on iOS. Each platform has their own pluses and minuses.
 
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Which is exactly why YOU would keep Messages as YOUR default messaging app. I don't understand your thinking that no one would want the option to use FB Messenger as THEIR default messaging app?

Mind you, I don't use it and never will, but having the option to make the apps that YOU use as default apps is how it should be.

Sounds like Android operating system? Many have chosen Apple’s walled garden for a reason.... PRIVACY. Facebook is only here for one thing... to sell your data as it has become more lucrative then oil and gold combined. His request is NOT for the consumer but only for their own pockets. Next he’ll ask for Facebook to become the next default news / internet browser. 😂😂😂😂 I’m sorry but this latest news keeps making me laugh. Between epic and Facebook I’m having a field day.
 
You did read that he's trying to make it an OPTION to be the default messaging app, just like you have an OPTION to set a different browser or email client as the default app?

You're not being forced to use FB Messenger.
Until facebook uses some dark pattern to trick users into making it the default, which they will surely do the minute they figure out how.
 
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Facebook is now actively seeking an option to make its Messenger app the default app for messages on iPhones, reports The Information.

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Emboldened by changes in iOS 14 that allow users to set a default email and browser app of their choice, Facebook believes it now has a more persuasive case to argue for a similar change for messaging apps. Last year, Apple also allowed Siri to send messages through other apps.



Chudnovksy revealed that Facebook has repeatedly asked Apple to consider adding an option for users to select a messaging app of their choice.



When asked why Apple is unwilling to cede the ability to set a different default messaging app, Chudnovsky said his "main guess is that messaging drives hardware sales."

If Apple did consider such a change, it would require additional changes to allow SMS texts to be received via third-party apps, which is not currently possible on iOS, and more invasive alterations for setting up third-party apps with SMS verification codes. The move would require more substantial and invasive changes to the way iOS functions than the ability to change default browser, for example.

Facebook is intending to merge Instagram and Messenger chats, and the platform is increasingly central to Facebook's business.

Facebook appears to be joining other companies such as Epic Games in a willingness to risk provoking Apple for the chance of potential reward. Yesterday, a range of companies, including Epic Games, Spotify, and Tile, have formed a new organization called the "Coalition for App Fairness," in an effort to highlight developer issues with Apple.



Facebook has recently heavily criticized Apple for restrictions on gaming apps, ad targeting, and in-app purchases. Last month, Facebook warned advertisers that Apple's upcoming anti-tracking tools could cause a more than 50 percent drop in Audience Network publisher revenue due to the removal of personalization from ads within apps. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has also referred to Apple's App Store as monopolistic and harmful to customers. Apple "blocks innovation, blocks competition," and uses the ‌App Store‌ to "charge monopoly rents," he said.

This new development represents yet another front upon which Apple is facing pressure regarding antitrust and monopoly issues.

Article Link: Facebook Lobbying for Option to Make Messenger Default on iOS
If that happens, I’m out.
 
Well, exactly. If it wasn't for the SMS dependency, I could have deleted iMessage from my phone entirely and never notice the difference.
That doesn’t make any sense. That is like saying if it wasn’t for GSM voice calls you could do away with the phone app ;)

You realise you have a mobile phone do you?
 
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