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i don't mind there being an option to do this, but who in their right mind would set facebook messenger to be their default app?..
 
I don't think many people realize how deeply many people loathe, absolutely loathe, FB and Zuckerberg. I wouldn't use their ****** messenger app if they paid me to.
 
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My friends use messenger. So I have no choice. But to have it as a default app. That’s crazy. It’s one of the main reasons I love iOS and wont go back to android. I want 1 AppStore. I like apples approach to privacy security and simplicity. Sign In with Apple and all that other stuff. Please do not make Apple like Android. I do think Apple does need to be nicer with cloud gaming and more consistent with their politics, but for the most part, I side with Apple. Spotify and epic are childish.
 
I think the default page when I login to Facebook on any device/browser should have option to take me to direct to Apple's "Ping" service!
 
It would be nice to change the default messaging app, but I doubt many would be changing it to FB messenger.
I had a few friends insist upon it (Android users) and recently I said 'yeah I'm deleting this stupid malware from my phone. you're gonna have to text or write a letter from now on.'
FB is definitely believes it's in a good position, or at least in some favor, with the powers that be or they wouldn't be taking on Apple so openly. FB is a data mining company that wants to snag whatever data it can from your phone and sell it for cash. That's it. That's their sole reason for being and it's stunning how much they just demand access to the information your phone can provide as if they are entitled to it.
 
I don’t care about default sms app. What I would want is for the share button to open up to all messenger apps. Today the top row is populated with frequent iMessage contacts, but I do a lot of messaging in other apps. If that top row is populated by most frequent contacts/groups regardless of messaging platform I would be content.
 
Most important question is where does it stop/end? They will just keep pushing for more and more. I don't want anything to do with Facebook (never have and never will). I don't want any pre installed crap apps on my phone, if I want it, I will get it.
 
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What a stupid idea.
I don’t even see the need?
As soon as a message is received the notification appears, can tap and reply.
What more integration could it need? The share options for pictures show all the installed apps already... Messenger, Slack, WhatsApp, etc. I use them all, more than iMessages by far and haven’t felt it “unintegrated”.
 
Not going to happen. It would need to integrate with SMS, and no way Apple would clear this from a privacy concern perspective. Proprietary chat apps are different than email and web applications, as those are standards based plus a UI/UX/features. Chat apps aren’t even close to that.
 
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iMessage is also contains SMS. Apple will not split iMessage, because thats the point of iMessage.
And Apple certainly should not give Facebook any more power.
 
i dont hate the precedent of this. the messages API should have been opened a long time ago to allow devs to make alternate messaging applications that could directly integrate with the system, and should be available now as an option to replace the bland, feature-lacking, stock messages app.

i would not use fb messenger as my go-to, at all. however, those jailbreakers you condescending people around here mock all the time used to have a legendary tweak called biteSMS that had quick reply many years before apple made it a "feature" and it also featured a robust and efficient "quick compose" interface that the user could call up with a variety of different gestures or button choices. it also had a laundry list of awesome features the user could take advantage of, which included stickying favorites as is now available as of a week ago (lmfao) and message scheduling.

it was supported better than many apps i've used and was a staple for just about every person who installed a jailbreak.

apple relinquishing control of the stock choice for message app would be a monumental improvement to iOS. they barely seem to care about the functioning of the messages app, and as someone who has used a feature rich messaging app, people seriously have no idea not only what they're missing out on, but just how pathetically lackluster the current offering is.
 
Why? Why do you care? You have an option to simply not sue Facebook. Why “lock it down” for those that aren’t paranoid.

Because Facebook’s tendrils slink deeper than just their own apps.
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Here’s a snapshot from the lockdown app a while back. I use said app and it routinely blocks thousands of trackers between my iPhone and iPad each day, and the only Facebook-linked app I have on my iPhone is WhatsApp, because that’s how pervasive their trackers are in apps and on the web. It has also made my devices feel and run smoother now that the system doesn’t need to expend resources processing these trackers.

There is value in Facebook, the photo sharing service. What’s cancerous is the tracking system that undergirds its advertising business model and I wish Apple would do more to limit the reach that Facebook has with regards to users on their platform.
 
All Apple has to do is open iMessage to other platforms and they can instantly crush everything else out there.
 
They should lobby for the other messaging app that is the de facto standard everywhere but US, whatsapp.
 
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