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Facebook Says Apple's iOS 14 Anti-Tracking Features Will Cut 50% of its Audience Network Ad Revenue
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If it hurts Facebook, it will hurt Google too... as they do the same.
whats the harm with advertising, and no tracking? It's just a way for them toknow where you are...
And i thought mobile carriers were bad.
For those unable to understand How Apple can help kill Facebook, I present to you Facebook’s desperation with iOS 14 clearly on display.
Even though Apple represents a very small fraction of overall smartphones, Apple’s userbase represents the vast majority of the most valuable demographic advertisers seek to reach. If Facebook can’t track them, Apple’s privacy features becomes a very real existential crisis for Facebook, or at least Facebook as it exists today.
The billions of cheap Android phones and those owned by users who get Android specifically because they can sideload free APK’s and pirated movies and music, those users heavily inflate Android’s market share. They’re useless to advertisers.
If Apple alone blocks out Facebook’s ability to track its user base, Facebook simply cannot exist. I hope Apple continues to tighten the vice. Sign In With Apple will be a devastating blow to Facebook‘s ability to track consumers on sites that aren’t Facebook. Let’s see some social features built into iOS directly and remove all reasons for people to go to Facebook apps at all.
Even though Apple represents a very small fraction of overall smartphones, Apple’s userbase represents the vast majority of the most valuable demographic advertisers seek to reach. If Facebook can’t track them, Apple’s privacy features becomes a very real existential crisis for Facebook, or at least Facebook as it exists today.
The billions of cheap Android phones and those owned by users who get Android specifically because they can sideload free APK’s and pirated movies and music, those users heavily inflate Android’s market share. They’re useless to advertisers.
If Apple alone blocks out Facebook’s ability to track its user base, Facebook simply cannot exist. I hope Apple continues to tighten the vice. Sign In With Apple will be a devastating blow to Facebook‘s ability to track consumers on sites that aren’t Facebook. Let’s see some social features built into iOS directly and remove all reasons for people to go to Facebook apps at all.
Never had an account. Based on what I’ve witnessed over my three decades of being in IT, that’s a good thing. I’ve heard all manner of reasons why people have kept their accounts after all of press on this awful company. They deserve it.
Sounds like a fundamentally flawed business model if the revenues can tumble by 50% just because one device platform prevents your product from tracking customers when they're not using your product. Or do I have it reversed on what the product is?
wait...
Why was this even allowed in the first place?
Why is Facebook saying this like its bad news for users? This akin to a bank telling their clients "We are sorry we won't be able to charge you higher interest rates due to gov. regulations"...thats not bad news 🤣
Why was this even allowed in the first place?
Why is Facebook saying this like its bad news for users? This akin to a bank telling their clients "We are sorry we won't be able to charge you higher interest rates due to gov. regulations"...thats not bad news 🤣
Good. The sooner Facebook dies in a fire, the better for the world.
That's great news. Safari on macOS could do with a kick in the pants too to catch up with Firefox.
Facebook tracking goes way beyond what happens on one user's computer. My wife has Facebook on her phone and if I'm doing any online shopping (or browsing) using my computer that has Facebook accounts on it, she will start getting ads about what I've been looking at. One day I was looking for cadence sensors for road bikes then an hour later she started receiving ads for cadence sensors (and other cycling products) in her Facebook feed.
The only connection that these two devices have is the fact that they're connecting through the same internet connection. From this we can determine that Facebook uses their like buttons (and other links into Facebook.com) to associate all traffic originating from IP address a.b.c.d with all accounts that access Facebook from IP address a.b.c.d.
Facebook tracks people who have never agreed to Facebook tracking them.
The only connection that these two devices have is the fact that they're connecting through the same internet connection. From this we can determine that Facebook uses their like buttons (and other links into Facebook.com) to associate all traffic originating from IP address a.b.c.d with all accounts that access Facebook from IP address a.b.c.d.
Facebook tracks people who have never agreed to Facebook tracking them.
My wife has Messenger on iPhone. I don’t understand why. When I asked her why she didn’t really have a good answer. A couple of her friends always use Messenger and they iPhones as well.
This is why not all opinions are equal. Someone obviously didn't think things through. How is FB tracking you? Advertising cookies and single pixel URLs and so on, things that are built into the ****ing web infrastructure. FB is just abusing it to track you.
And now you blame Apple for "allowing" FB to do this? Please turn in your tech cred card asap.
I seek clarification. FB says that publishers, etc will see revenue loss. They don’t appear to mention if FB itself will see reduced revenue. Will FB be directly impacted?
Non iOS 14 phones obviously. For the most part, Android phones but also some older iOS phones, and *some* IOS 14 users who did enable tracking.
You understand the same anti tracking stuff built into iOS and Safari on iOS will also appear on Big Sur and Safari on Big Sur...?
It really doesn't matter if you have an account or not. They still know you, and still track you and sell access to you. Read up on shadow profile.
Awwww.
Those Facebook lamentations are the best music I've heard in a while. Go
! Run with it and don't back down.
Those Facebook lamentations are the best music I've heard in a while. Go
! Run with it and don't back down.Facebook: "More privacy for users hurts our ad revenue!"
Also Facebook: *tracks you across multiple sites and apps, breaks every single app they get their hands on every single year, doesn't fix the issues until more than a week later and aren't even sorry*
Also Facebook: *tracks you across multiple sites and apps, breaks every single app they get their hands on every single year, doesn't fix the issues until more than a week later and aren't even sorry*
Sure. I know that this goes on too. Nothing I can do about that. But it does matter me whether I had an account. What they have about me, they stole or paid for. I never gave it to them knowingly or willingly. Do they leach it from other apps and websites? Absolutely. But I block all that I can block. I really don't care if it breaks a website I want to visit. I refuse to visit that site again. I don't use apps that allow any analytics that knowingly route to them either. I use tools on my home network like Pihole and Suricata to attempt to highlight traffic and protect. Point is, I do everything I can to limit my exposure. I take a very active role in attempting to protect my privacy. I do the same where the thieves at google are concerned too.
No. Because the amount of ads won’t be going down. Just means the ads you see won’t be as targeted.
Considering how hard Firefox has worked to stop tracking, I'm surprised that Facebook isn't going after all of their funding sources. Malwarebytes has a browser extension that helps other browsers stop tracking.
I just can't imagine why people, family groups or not, stick with Facebook.