guess you missed the statements from Apple that the same rules will indeed apply to them. And i also suggest you take a stroll around the settings app, might find some interesting stuff in there...
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guess you missed the statements from Apple that the same rules will indeed apply to them. And i also suggest you take a stroll around the settings app, might find some interesting stuff in there...
Facebook is so disgusting as evidenced by this note. Wow, accusing Apple of profiting. Even though it is just the opposite, it is Facebook trying to profit in secrecy while claiming they are small business and a victim. 🤮
Whether Apple subjects their own ad platform to the same rules or not is besides the point.
The point is that we are sick and tired of Facebook tracking us and want it to stop.
What do you not understand exactly?
I have to sue Facebook for my job and I absolutely can’t stand them - their shoddy programming, reliability, UI choices and most of all their privacy choices. How many times has FB been busted for privacy concerns for example, storing user passwords in a plain text file that FB employees can access? They’re a necessary evil because all the sheeple are using it, but if it was gone tomorrow I couldn’t care less. Facebook and that punk assed bitch Zuckerberg can suck it.
Any time Apple created a new privacy feature their devices alert you when apple’s own apps are accessing your privacy like any other app so I don’t know why people are questioning this. If they actually owned an Apple device this would be obvious.
what a bunch of sooks Facebook are.
i'm tired of reporting obvious fake accounts to them that clearly breach their COmmunity Standards and they come back, every time, just to block them as they dont.
for example, an account with a photo of a dog and no other details except some stupid made up non-person name clearly goes against what they say is acceptable. the account posts vitriolic lies about abortions. yet you report them and no issue. block them.
cant challenge or ask them to read a post. nothing.
Facebook need to smarten their own game up if they want any sympathy on matter like Apple making them be transparent.
i'm tired of reporting obvious fake accounts to them that clearly breach their COmmunity Standards and they come back, every time, just to block them as they dont.
for example, an account with a photo of a dog and no other details except some stupid made up non-person name clearly goes against what they say is acceptable. the account posts vitriolic lies about abortions. yet you report them and no issue. block them.
cant challenge or ask them to read a post. nothing.
Facebook need to smarten their own game up if they want any sympathy on matter like Apple making them be transparent.
Here’s what’s going to happen,
Facebook takes Instagram etc off of iPhones. Forces you to use safari
iPhone users complain. Apple either caves or creates their own social media platform.
Apple does not want to be in the social media business, too much money to invest in it.
Facebook takes Instagram etc off of iPhones. Forces you to use safari
iPhone users complain. Apple either caves or creates their own social media platform.
Apple does not want to be in the social media business, too much money to invest in it.
Facebook is welcome to try.
That they are resorting to guerrilla tactics like this just shows who has all the power in this relationship.
He who owns the platform makes the rules.
For anyone in the UK, facebook is now apparently going to relocate all your data to California. Removing it from the protection of EU regulation and opening it up (further) to USA authorities.
Funny how they have not taken out full page adverts to tell us all about this change.
The social media giant has decided that, legally speaking, it makes much more sense for UK residents to stop officially residing in Europe and will pile all British Facebook souls onto a boat and ship ‘em to the Golden State, as it has with others in the world.
Why? Privacy, of course. European citizens are covered by the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), which prevents Facebook from gathering and selling their personal information without explicit permission. But Facebook loves selling people’s personal data – so much in fact it has built the entire company’s business model around it. And so, you leave Europe, you end up in California.
https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/16/facebook_uk_users/
Funny how they have not taken out full page adverts to tell us all about this change.
As UK breaks away from Europe, Facebook tells Brits: You'll all be Californians soon
Boris can’t manage a US trade deal, so antisocial media giant has done it for him
As Brits wake up to Brexit next month, most will no longer find themselves stuck on an island in the Atlantic but ensconced in sunny California, courtesy of Facebook.The social media giant has decided that, legally speaking, it makes much more sense for UK residents to stop officially residing in Europe and will pile all British Facebook souls onto a boat and ship ‘em to the Golden State, as it has with others in the world.
Why? Privacy, of course. European citizens are covered by the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), which prevents Facebook from gathering and selling their personal information without explicit permission. But Facebook loves selling people’s personal data – so much in fact it has built the entire company’s business model around it. And so, you leave Europe, you end up in California.
https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/16/facebook_uk_users/
Between Google and Facebook, I'm more okay with Google tracking me because at least I actually use their services. Who hasn't used YouTube?
Even when you don't use Facebook, it still tracks you. I have anti-FB enabled in Firefox and it seems like there are FB trackers on every site.
Even when you don't use Facebook, it still tracks you. I have anti-FB enabled in Firefox and it seems like there are FB trackers on every site.
There is at least one IOS user who is not going to complain about losing Instagram. Or anything else to do with facebook. I can't remember ever knowingly using Instagram so I'd hardly miss it.
If facebook were to make Instagram unavailable, or only through Safari (is that so terrible?), they open up an opportunity for some other company to grow among at least IOS users.
If it were only about advertising, there might be a sense of harmlessness around this, and might justify the fact that the term “track” isn’t as nefarious as it feels. I mean, yes, who cares if someone knows I browsed for shoes somewhere. Fact is, this tracking can generate data about behaviour - at a granular level - which can then be used in all the sinister ways that the term “track” implies. It is used for mass movements and election interference. Serious stuff all of that
I figured notebookcheck was a pretty reliable source of information. I could care less either way, really. I have nothing to hide. As long as I don't get money taken from me...either way I don't care. Again, I am seriously looking at getting a new macbook pro. I just don't go fanboy'ing out on everything thats all. So, can you confirm this is 100 percent sewage?
Facebook is concerned about its own profits, so it accuses Apple of doing this... out of concern for profit?! #projection
This is such a good point. Business pages exist purely as a cash cow for Facebook.
Lots of people say that. Might even think they mean it.
Truth is, we all have things to hide. Even if for the best of motives.
One very simple possibility. You get an unpleasant surprise on the health front. You decide to put your affairs in order (to use the old and rather quaint phrase). But you do not wish everyone around you to know your prognosis. At least, not yet. So your cashing in of pension/life assurance, sale of interests, etc., might be something you don't want the world to know. But facebook would see your activity and pummel you with advertising for related services. Everyone who might exploit your situation will be alerted.
Strictly speaking, they do. They sell advertising space on things such as the AppStore.
They don’t however share any information with third-parties. Nor do they get quite so invasive as to try and track every movement you make while online, unlike some other companies. You can pop into Settings > Privacy to read much more about that...
They have also stated in press releases that the same rules they are applying to everyone else, will also be applied to Apples own software, services and advertising network and APIs.
Before anyone whinges at me again, I’ll just remind you I have no problem with Facebook, Google, or anyone else making money.
I also think that what these companies are doing is perfectly acceptable, in the sense that end users are agreeing to this in the terms and conditions they accept.
However, as we all are well aware, few people bother to read every single part of those t&c. So, I do like the move Apple is making here to make the most important things available for everyone to see and agree to (or not) on their own terms. So long as Apple applies the same rules to themselves, which they have stated they will be.
While I also fully accept and acknowledge that targeted advertising is by far more efficient and significantly more profitable. I do take umbrage with these companies doing everything they can to convince people that it is the ONLY option.
That is far from the truth. When you’re old enough to remember a lot of companies, a lot of services and a lot of websites, making considerable sums of money from traditional advertising, in the days before targeted advertising existed, that becomes a lot clearer.
Ok, now I really need to stop reading this bloody thread. This time I’m going to do it, I will, I wil... meh, who am I kidding
That’s a helluva first post. Good to know, thank you. This needs its own article. I just logged on and have some catching up to do to see what discussion or coverage exists here on this site regarding this unsavory revelation.
It’s a nice theory and certainly a plausible one. But ultimately, unrealistic. The truth is, complain though they may - and will. Facebook would loose far too much money by doing such a move.
And when push comes to shove, regardless of what they might try and claim to the contrary. This entire issue is about Facebook potentially losing money.
More realistic, would be Facebook providing targeted advertising to the users who allow it. While still making billions of dollars by providing traditional non-tracked, non-targeted advertising to users who opt out.
This all boils down to Facebook not liking the fact that Apple are going to make its users aware of the most invasive and profitable practices Facebook, and others, perform on their users. Something they already do, something the vast majority of it’s users already agree to, when they don’t bother to read the terms and conditions set out in the end user licence agreement. Nothing more, nothing less.
I’ll certainly agree that Apple could, and now certainly will do more to secure this information.....
The company has stopped logging IP addresses on its servers. It doesn't have to store this data for Gatekeeper.
“These security checks have never included the user’s Apple ID or the identity of their device. To further protect privacy, we have stopped logging IP addresses associated with Developer ID certificate checks, and we will ensure that any collected IP addresses are removed from logs” Apple writes.
Finally, Apple is overhauling the design of the network request and adding a user-facing opt-out option.
But it is anything but spyware, or tracking. It is someone jumping on an opportunity to fear monger.
Gatekeeper contacts Apple to verify the validity and security of the apps being run on macOS. This is nothing new, it’s been going on for many years.
I’d recommend a read of the Gatekeeper support document.
Or if you just want a quick summary, have a look around some articles here, here, or just search for Gatekeeper spying.
I'd go so far as to suggest it is impossible for any normal person to read though the T&C of every bit of software they install/use. The other day I saw a reference to some software or other which had something like 500 pages of T&C.
And, if you think you could manage that, some company will just keep making it longer and longer until it is impossible.
Remembering that we have to interpret those T&C in conjunction with the law where we are, the law in which the T&C are cast and claimed to be justiciable. And every time there is an update we have to acquaint ourselves with any changes - which might or might not be easy to identify. In fact, every time here is a case which interprets the law anew or differently, we have to add that to the T&C as they apply.
Even restricting yourself to the few things you most use, it is an impossible task.
We need basic model T&C which apply at least across whole countries and do so pretty much automatically.
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Did you read the first article, like the part after the quote?
Apple ad revenue could hit $11B a year by 2025 – JP Morgan - 9to5Mac
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Apple’s Ad Network Gets ‘Preferential Access To Users’ Data’ vs Facebook, Google, Others
Most people don’t even know that Apple runs an ad network ...www.forbes.com
You're right though. They do to everyone but you.
Unless I’m way off base, the ad tracking is one of the very first parts of the data sharing prompts that comes up the very first time you use your phone, no?