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You mean if responses don't fit your agenda. Your Apple is good and everyone else is bad agenda.
Maybe in the field of targeted advertising. But the other areas I pointed out Apple is worst company there is. Advertising has nothing to do with human rights. Much of Apple's business practices play a huge part in stifling human rights in certain parts of the world.
Did you fully read through Facebook's TOS? I suspect not. They list a lot of things they track you for in there. The fact that nobody reads pages and pages of agreements when signing up for a Facebook account is not Facebook's fault. But speaking of being upfront. Was Apple up front with Facebook when they first applied to be in the App Store around a decade ago? I suspect Apple never told Facebook hey we are going to start limiting your tracking revenue in future versions of iOS. So Apple is not up front about stuff either. They constantly and continually change App Store rules.
Oh wow. 20 pages and you still have no clue what the problem is. The problem is Apple subjecting Facebook and other apps to that but not subjecting its own apps to the same popups. If Apple feels it is best for customers to have a popup notifying them then that should apply to every single app on the store including Apple's apps. If you don't want Apple to track you, there is no popup-you have to manually go in the settings app and find the toggle to turn off their ad tracking. The problem is hypocrisy. It's good to give the consumer choice, but not with Apple's apps because as most on macrumors have pointed it they love Apple so much they are ok with Apple tracking them.
I half agree with this. I personally have chosen to leave. I don't like Facebook the company, and I don't want to support them, but if a large enough portion of their userbase demands advertising changes, Facebook might listen. If they don't, well they might lose a lot of people.
Your argument has a fundamental weakness: Apple _is_ indeed working to protect the privacy of their users and trying to help consumers. Sure, the make profit doing this. How their motiviation is divided between profit and wanting to improve things for people, nobody knows other than Apple, but it doesn't matter: They are helping ME. And that's all I care about.
There really is no nuance. The only thing companies understand is either making money or losing money. If enough people demanded changes by leaving Facebook then Facebook would eventually have to recognize and change or go out of business. If you just say "I don't like what you're doing" but actually do nothing how would a company even know that or why would they care? Obviously not nearly enough people care about what Facebook is doing. I mean they care enough to act self righteous on forums like this and cry about their privacy, but their actions such as continuing to use Facebook show they in reality don't care. And all Facebook or any company cares about is actions which translates into revenue.
They are helping you with Facebook and third party apps. I bet they don't tell you they make $2B a year off of targeted advertising. They also don't show popups on their own apps to give you the choice of whether or not you want them to target you with ads. You have to know to go into the settings and find the toggle to turn it off.
Facebook's platform is their property. They develop and maintain it. Do you pay Facebook every time you use their property? And as discussed in other posts, I'm sure you live in America or Europe somewhere that you have financial stability. What about the rest of the world where people could not afford a monthly subscription to pay for Facebook, but use the service to keep in contact with family and friends?
Ask the British governement how much face masks cost. The story was that Apple had about nine million face masks that they had been required to buy in case of more forest fires in California; if we go by what the UK government paid, that would have been worth around £100,000,000. (Yes, they were ripped off).
Yes and that would be about 1% of 1% of 1% of Apple's net worth. Basically less than a penny to you and I.
Your percentages are quite obviously wrong. And one percent of one percent of my net worth is considerably more than a penny.
I said 1% of 1% of 1%. That's a huge difference than 1%.
I don’t even use Facebook. This is what I deal with on a daily basis.
By your logic, since I am not getting anything out of value from Facebook in exchange for them scrapping my data, should Facebook be compensating me instead?
At least with Apple, if I don’t like their products, I can simply elect to not buy them and they won’t impact me one bit.
What’s my option for people who aren’t on social media and don’t wish to be tracked?
This behaviour kicks in NEXT year. How on earth can you call out Apple for not doing no one else is required to do today? 🤦🏻♂️
No, there is nuance, and I already explained it to you. You basically backed it up in your response to me. People don't have to leave Facebook to demand change, they can simply demand change, which is the same as "complaining about ads." If Facebook doesn't take the threat seriously, they'll lose users and money, and then maybe change, but are people going to come back? I know there's nothing Facebook can do to win me back. So yes, there is nuance to the argument. It isn't as simple as "want to use Facebook for free? Then put up with everything they want you to." It's more nuanced than that.
Hate has nothing to do with how companies conduct business. The majority of planet earth still use Facebook. People might hate Facebook and love the validation that comes from Internet forums by acting self righteous about ads, but they still use Facebook and Facebook keeps making money. Americans in particular hate a lot of companies that still deal with on a daily basis.