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FaceID while driving & accidents
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So I’m assuming you never change radio stations or CD tracks in your car? If your car has built in sat nav you don’t use it either?
I have a ProClip mount on my dash. It keeps iPhone higher up than the radio and closer to the steering wheel. So wouldn’t that be safer?
Being stopped at a light constitutes driving.
Call me a law breaker as I do text when stopped at a light if it is important.
No it does not. If the light is red and I am stopped, I am not posing a danger to others if I quickly use my phone.
Your kind of thinking makes us less safe because if you classify any phone use in the driver's seat as "while driving", people will be more willing to use the phone while the car is moving since it's "the same thing." We should be encouraging people to not use their phone while driving, but if they must, to do so ONLY when stopped.
A cop would beg to differ.
Police aren't always the best judge of what is or isn't safe. They have to enforce a minimum standard of the law, though.
Ticketing people using their phones at a red light is a BAD idea. It encourages people to use their phones when moving since a cop is less likely to see them. Changing human behavior is a huge pain in the ass; letting people use their phones when stopped is a good compromise.
This has to be one of the more ignorant statements I've read in a while.
Whatever. You do you, I guess.
Explain to me how TouchID is any safer? Are you saying after you unlock your iPhone with your thumb you are not going to look at the phone?
"Now we have hands-free phones, so you can focus on the thing you're really supposed to be doing ... chances are, if you need both of your hands to do something, your brain should be in on it too"........Ellen DeGeneres
I don't need my phone in sight to play my 
music and take calls; it stays in my purse whilst i drive . Hence no cause whatsoever to unlock it.
music and take calls; it stays in my purse whilst i drive . Hence no cause whatsoever to unlock it.I have steering wheel controls for my radio, so no, I don't fool with the radio. I don't switch playlists. I don't change channels. As I already stated, nothing, including my own personal enjoyment of my music, is more important than the lives around me.
As for navigation, I've used an actual GPS device once in my life. And I've used my phone for GSP once in my life. Neither time required me to mess with the screen at all. Just set it up, hit go and then drive.
Being a computer programmer, not a safety expert, I'm not qualified to speak about the merits where you choose to position your phone. But I will say, while it's not against the law, I don't think people should be fooling with their stereo while driving either. I know someone who crashed his car while switching the station. So I hope you're not holding up "changing the channel on your stereo" as a safe baseline for driving habits.
One last point, since this thread is referring specifically to the iPhone X, "Hey Siri" is guaranteed to be a valid option. What to change to music? Use Siri. Want to get GPS going? Use Siri. Want to answer a text? Use Siri. And if you setup your phone so you can't use Siri from a lock screen, then you've put yourself in the corner on that one and will need to live with those consequences of not having hands free options.
In the eyes of the law and your insurer, you are "operating a motor vehicle" while stopped at a light. That lingo means "driving". This may be dependant on jurisdiction, but is probably largely true.
It's not my thinking. Neither am I judging. It's simply a legal framework.
Based on your response I doubt you know the legalities of your jurisdiction. Wanting an excuse to use a smartphone from behind the wheel doesn't make it a legal reality.
Twice in my long driving career (pre smartphone era) I rolled into someone while stopped because I was somehow distracted. If it happens again I'll simply tell the officer or my insurer that I wasn't driving and not to hold me accountable for any damages. I'll tell them you told me so. Cool.
Agreed. My sister got a ticket a couple years back for using her phone while stopped at a red light. So for all those saying it's nonsense, you might want to check with the laws in your state. If you're behind the wheel of a running car, you are not supposed to be playing with your phone. Use Siri or wait to get home.
"Don't worry about the open alcohol, officer, I only drink while stopped".
It’s not illegal where I live to use a phone while driving. Text or something yes, but not picking up unlocking and dialing a number. So all the holier than thou chastising people for bringing up valid points...
I don’t have Bluetooth in my car. I don’t have a built-in nav system. I connect my iPhone to my car radio via a cable, use a car mount, and use the phone for navigation and audio.
I’m saying all this to say that I’m not using the latest car tech.
I set up the destination and audio before I start driving. If I’m in maps, or Navigon, the screen doesn’t go dark, and definitely doesn’t go to sleep, so there’s no need to unlock it while driving. If my audio ends, I tell Siri to play something else. If I get a text or call, I ignore it (since iOS 11, the phone ignores it for me, even though I have to turn it on manually; again: no Bluetooth).
It’s not that hard, even without CarPlay.
And where I live, it’s illegal to text or talk while driving. That’s it. So Pokémon is fair game. But guess what? They’re changing the law next month. Just because it’s legal, doesn’t imply it’s safe. Some states are slower to catch up with our rapidly changing technology, but it’s happening.
And I’ll be holier than thou all I want. This is one time where I’ll be extremely selfish. Because people messing with their phones could end up getting ME killed. So no apologies here. Stayed off your phone if your car is running and you’re behind the wheel. Use hands free options or exercise some self control. There is nothing so important that it’s worth putting other people’s lives at risk. If you don’t have the self control, pull over and do your thing.
PUT DOWN THE GODDAMNED PHONE WHEN DRIVING.
/end stupidity
I have no patience for people driving on their phones anymore. One of these days I'm going to rip it from someone's jabbering face and shove it down their throat.
Everybody will say don’t use it while driving but I am sure 90% of them do or have at one point while driving!
Android has a feature called Smart Lock where you can agree to have your phone stay unlocked if connected to whatever bluetooth, Wi-Fi access points, GPS locations, etc. that you choose.
A lot of different arguments in here. But regardless, when you're driving, your focus is on the roadway. And when driving, safety and due regard to others on the roadway is paramount. If you don't have an emergency call to make or receive, leave your phone alone until you are either pulled off the roadway or off the roadway completely.
I believe I read somewhere on this forum, that the X, when mounted on the dashboard, charging and being pointed somewhat towards the driver, will automatically turn on an unlock when the driver will look towards the phone.
Or was I dreaming?
It seems like a great idea, safer than other options and doable with the hardware at hand.
Or was I dreaming?
It seems like a great idea, safer than other options and doable with the hardware at hand.