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FaceID while driving & accidents
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So here’s my dilemma.
I realize it’s easy to just say “you’re an idiot if you use your phone while driving”. I don’t even disagree. But the thing is, here in MA, I look around and people are constantly texting. To think that people are going to somehow change their ways with this phone is a bit silly.
So that brings me to my point; will this cause more accidents than a simple Touch ID lock? It’s just a question, I’m not over here trying to claim Touch ID is somehow safer. But it does make me wonder. At the end of the day it really doesn’t matter how good a driver I am and how well I follow the rules of a bunch of idiots around me are trying to use their face to respond to a text.
Again, just thinking out loud. I’m not trying to imply that Apple has some sort of public responsibility to reduce car crashes or whatever anyone may try to read between the lines lol.
I realize it’s easy to just say “you’re an idiot if you use your phone while driving”. I don’t even disagree. But the thing is, here in MA, I look around and people are constantly texting. To think that people are going to somehow change their ways with this phone is a bit silly.
So that brings me to my point; will this cause more accidents than a simple Touch ID lock? It’s just a question, I’m not over here trying to claim Touch ID is somehow safer. But it does make me wonder. At the end of the day it really doesn’t matter how good a driver I am and how well I follow the rules of a bunch of idiots around me are trying to use their face to respond to a text.
Again, just thinking out loud. I’m not trying to imply that Apple has some sort of public responsibility to reduce car crashes or whatever anyone may try to read between the lines lol.
No, it’s not. You should read up on the law.
For the sake of clarification:
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986
Mobile telephones
110.
—(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a road if he is using—
(a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or
(b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4).
(2) No person shall cause or permit any other person to drive a motor vehicle on a road
while that other person is using—
(a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or
(b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4).
(3) No person shall supervise a holder of a provisional licence if the person supervising
is using—
(a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or
(b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4),
at a time when the provisional licence holder is driving a motor vehicle on a road.
(4) A device referred to in paragraphs (1)(b), (2)(b) and (3)(b) is a device, other than a
two-way radio, which performs an interactive communication function by transmitting
and receiving data.
And in the legislation;
"a mobile telephone or other device is to be treated as hand-held if it is, or must be, held at some point during the course of making or receiving a call or performing any other interactive communication function".
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It’s not the method of unlocking that is dangerous so much as it is then giving the phone your attention after it’s unlocked.
If anything, maybe iPhone X users try it and realize how unsafe it is, and they’ll stop using their phones in the car like every other idiot.
You do know the laws were updated in April this year right?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...one-satnav-could-see-arrested-drivers-warned/
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/know-how/mobile-phone-laws/
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/25/using...av-could-get-you-banned-from-driving-6878136/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/use-mobile-phone-sat-nav-9963123
https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law
Now I could go on, but the changes brought in this year have been well publicised and overule anything you’ve posted when it comes to mobile phones.
In a perfect world, this might be true... but the fact remains, people can be quite selfish... selfish to the point of thinking that making that call, sending that text or watching that video clip is more important that someone's life.
Stuff happens. There was a situation here a few months back where a girl was driving and live streaming... had an accident, rolled her car and killed her younger sister. Her car ran off the side of the road because she was paying more attention to her phone than to her driving. She over corrected, veered back across the road and rolled her car in a field ... and now her 14 year old sister is dead.
Senseless. Selfish. Avoidable.
BTW, she kept the live streaming going, all the way through the accident. #priorities
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...ivestream-fatal-car-crash-20170725-story.html
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Hey Siri will do anything you need on your phone while driving, I use it everyday. I never have to hold or unlock or anything.
If you want an iPhone X, you should reconsider what vehicle you’re driving as with a phone that technologically advanced, you’d at least have a car with Bluetooth and steering wheel controls to handle any phone calls / music playback. Heck, you’d likely have a build in navigation system as well.
They want control and promote it with some tenuous notion of safety. People are distracted for all sorts of reasons and some are just poor drivers. Here in Southern California about half the drivers are on some form of drugs or are so mentally unstable that they ought be precluded from operating a motor vehicle. Of course, making the acquisition of a driver's license more difficult by having more demanding examinations would never be acceptable to a lot of people because they'd claim it smacks of unfairness.
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You think that just because various countries make something illegal that that makes it right? There are lots of distractions that occur while driving; however, the cell phone provides a convenient target for those that have a need to posit blame. Perhaps, it's not the phone, but the person using the phone that ought be blamed. Reasonable people do not need such restrictions to force them to use a cell phone safely. Come to think of it, law enforcement ought not use their communication devices while driving.
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That’s some very wishful thinking. I’ve seen some... incredible stuff in rush our traffic lol. I’ve taien to public transit when I can, which is now almost always lol.
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I think you have to look st the phone to unlock it (if I’m not mistaken?), so your stuck looking st the phone for that extra second or two or three. That’s my thought.
I can’t believe I’m reading people arguing that it’s their right to use a phone while driving.
Okay, then. It should be my right to kick your sorry ass when you hit my car.
I’ll livestream that ****, too.
Okay, then. It should be my right to kick your sorry ass when you hit my car.
I’ll livestream that ****, too.
Erm???? I think your confused, laws exist because of dumb people who use their phones, they are a distraction, and law enforcement use radios...
I don’t think you’ve thought your comment through at all because it actually reads as though you are defending the use of phones whilst driving!!
Do you moan about drink drive laws too??
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Law enforcement usually have a partner in the car to do all the screen-intensive work, too.
And if not, they're usually the last to think that it's "safe" to look at a screen in a car. They've seen enough accidents on the job.
I don't know why I haven't bought a dash cam yet so I can start publicly ridiculing stupid drivers.
The removal of touch ID on the X in favor of facial recognition may cause a serious public safety issue. We all know it is stupid and dangerous to text and drive but we all also know people are going to do it anyway. It appears that with the X, the user will have to look straight into the phone in order to unlock the device. Rather than just holding the phone and unlocking with your thumb while eyes still on the road, people will have to take the extra step to either look straight down, or hold the phone in front of your face. With millions of drivers, this extra distraction may add up to additional serious consequences. It is yet another terrible design choice in a long list of missteps by Apple with this release. Don’t tell me do not disturb while driving addresses this at all.
Yeah, but it does, albeit only partially. You know what would address it though? Personal responsibility. Don't look at your ******* phone while driving.
People are going to have to look at their phone sooner or later to navigate through the OS and do whatever it is they have to do. FaceID seems pretty quick and seemless. It should unlock the moment they do that. Hopefully it won’t require a straight on look and can be unlocked at an angle.
Once you unlock the phone regardless of method what do you do?
Look at phone... Which you shouldn't be doing when driving. I think this is a moot point.
Look at phone... Which you shouldn't be doing when driving. I think this is a moot point.
Whenever I see someone texting and driving I chase after them and throw my beer bottle at them.
No it's not a terrible design choice at all. What is terrible tough is that people have yet to grasp the concept of NOT USING YOUR DAMN PHONE WHILE DRIVING.
Loving this new Do Not Disturb feature on iOS 11. Keeps me from touching my phone while I drive (not that I did it much before - but it helps). Sadly, those that abuse this will probably keep on abusing it.
I don't blame Apple for this just like I don't blame a gun for killing someone. It is hardly Apple's fault if someone wants to break the law. My laptop requires me to open it and type in a pin to log into Windows. I'm not going to blame Dell for making it difficult to use my laptop while I'm driving...
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LOL.
I don't blame Apple for this just like I don't blame a gun for killing someone. It is hardly Apple's fault if someone wants to break the law. My laptop requires me to open it and type in a pin to log into Windows. I'm not going to blame Dell for making it difficult to use my laptop while I'm driving...
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LOL.
You mean the same way we look down at the instrument cluster to check how fast we're going and look over to the center console to change the song?