Reports show although it may be running faster, its still no where near as fast as ios 6 is.
And we know how much many Apple users hate lag/slowness.
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FaceTime Not Working for Many iOS 6 Users
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Reports show although it may be running faster, its still no where near as fast as ios 6 is.
And we know how much many Apple users hate lag/slowness.
But isn't iCloud part of the "ecosystem?" I think it's a part of the ecosystem.
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It just works.
All MacRumors is anymore is a breeding ground for anti-Apple fans who want to taunt Apple fans.
If you're upset with lag, upgrade your nearly 4 year old device.
How many 4 year old Android devices are running any of the last 3 major Android updates?
People complain about this stuff....cracks me up. "Wahh my 4 year old phone should run just as fast or faster on new software that is more advanced".
Please....
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iCloud as a webservice is. And it works extremely well within the ecosystem.
iCloud.com as a portal to access iCloud files on other devices (my Dell laptop for instance) isn't really part of the overall ecosystem.
If you have a mac, you have no need to ever go to icloud.com.
If you're upset with lag, upgrade your nearly 4 year old device.
How many 4 year old Android devices are running any of the last 3 major Android updates?
People complain about this stuff....cracks me up. "Wahh my 4 year old phone should run just as fast or faster on new software that is more advanced".
Please....
A 4 year old Android device will still get updates to all the major apps, just not the operating system. As such it will run at the same speed as when purchased.
However a 4 year old Apple device, although receiving a software upgrade, wont receive all the feature and will run slower.
Highly disagree and I'd argue this thinking is the same on Apple's side as well. If you don't consider iCloud part of the ecosystem, imho you're horribly taking a chunk out of your services.
Also... why call it "iCloud.com" then if it isn't part of the ecosystem? Look at how your iPhone/iPad does cloud storage it's called... wait for it: iCloud! So, if it isn't a part of the "ecosystem," why brand it as icloud.com at all?
It's a part of the ecosystem. Period. iCloud just underlines the fact that Apple is simply terrible at cloud services and a potential HUGE weakness.
I would have loved to upgrade my mothers iPhone/iPad to iOS7 but unfortunately:
- with 84, she not that quick anymore in adopting to changes
- iOS6 was working perfect for her, so no need for change
- both devices have a jb with veency so I can provide simple remote support and check up on her in case of an emergency (which has proven to be of extreme value...)
If Apple really pulled the 'kill switch' on iOS6 FT that means:
- she is (for now) locked off via FT from her daily video-chat with her kids/grandkids
- she's forced to get to learn iOS7 - for FT that's probably not so bad as it looks pretty much the same
- I can no longer remotely access the device since i missed the timeframe for the iOS7 JB.. - that is my real pain..
So, really hope this is just a temporary issue with the service and Apple has not consciously decided without notice to just kill FT for older iOS releases..
Why wouldn't they? I use it all the time. FaceTime once every other week and FaceTime Audio a couple of days a week.
I'll give you an example (regardless of what has really happened with Facetime on iOS 6). My iMac G4 cost me £899 at the time. I got it in 2004. One year previous I bought a Windows XP laptop for about £399.
The XP laptop is still going strong with the latest software. iTunes 11, Firefox 28, Steam, Office 2013 all work fine (albeit some of it slow). XP has only just been ditched by Microsoft and will still probably have a few years left in it before Apps become incompatible. My iMac G4 however, has long since been ditched by Apple. OS X Tiger hasn't received an update in years (despite it being release long after XP) and I have to make do with older software versions (latest iTunes is version 9). It is no massive biggie, if you know what you're doing you can cope just fine(ish). But at the end of the day, it can't use iTunes Radio links anymore since they've been disabled in version 9, I can't sync it with OneDrive, I can't sync my iPhone 5 with it, I can't chat to friends on Steam, I have to use a recompiled and rather slow version of FireFox on it to be able to browse the web since Safari 2 is massively outdated... the list goes on. Realistically, my cheaper and older XP laptop is more useful today. All because of Apple's terrible software support lifecycle.
But that Apple device WILL gain more features, whereas the Android device will simply remain the same (the apps will be updated, but no OS features are added).
I'm not really here to debate which way is better. I like Apple's way, so I buy Apple. If someone doesn't like Apple's way, don't buy Apple. It's really not that difficult.
But expecting a 4 year old device to not only get 4 years of OS updates with all features (even those that aren't possible due to outdated or missing hardware) AND work as fast as the day they bought it?
That person doesn't live in mobile tech reality. 4 years is an ETERNITY. Update your damn phone. Or buy something other than an iPhone.
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You are equating an entire set of services (iCloud) to a single portal (iCloud.com).
Whatever man - I'm done arguing this. Android is a great OS - go look at some of those phones.
So basically its a fallacy that iPhone dosent suffer from fragmentation then.
Upgraded older iPhone device = less new features and slower software.
Ok.
I don't think I ever had a windows based laptop long enough to run into any of these issues. They always died on me for one reason or another.
I sold my first Macbook Pro 7 years after I got it. And despite needing anew battery, it still worked like a charm. Didn't have any problem with software.
Good lord
Look at my join date. Go on look at it. If you honestly think that I'm "hungry" for an Android phone, then you must have your head in the sand.Look... I'm a fan of Apple, it's why I'm here. But I don't hide the fact that Apple has some serious issues. I'm not talking about the stock market or Cook (I think he's doing a BRILLIANT job). What I'm talking about things that Apple CAN correct and can do better on. The Cloud is one of them.
If you truly don't believe that, then I don't know what to say to you. iCloud is touted by apple. It's demoed alongside with Pages/Numbers/etc. It is a part of the ecosystem.
w00master
Good lord
Look... I'm a fan of Apple, it's why I'm here. But I don't hide the fact that Apple has some serious issues. I'm not talking about the stock market or Cook (I think he's doing a BRILLIANT job). What I'm talking about things that Apple CAN correct and can do better on. The Cloud is one of them.
If you truly don't believe that, then I don't know what to say to you. iCloud is touted by apple. It's demoed alongside with Pages/Numbers/etc. It is a part of the ecosystem.
w00master
I never said iCloud was perfect. You have been equating a portal used on non-Apple machines to the ENTIRETY of iCloud services and saying that because this one portal (that is only useful outside of Apple devices), iCloud sucks.
Now if we want to discuss how iCloud can get better (like beefing up iCloud.com, or allowing for more freedom in iCloud backups and saving), that's fine.
But to say iCloud sucks based on a portal used on non-Apple devices is stupid. Sorry, but it is. That was what I was responding to.
Yep. Used it to chat with my devs twice this week, made a FT Audio call with the board (different company), my little girl chatted with her Granny today using FT.
I love FT Audio. My cell connection is so-so here at the World HQ, but Ive got loads of bandwidth (and extensive WiFi), so its nice being able to make calls, stay mobile around the whole homestead and the call clarity is outstanding. I happen to be in a scenario where everyone involved in my two startups, friends and family are on iOS devices
Audio is nice
Im well aware of what fragmentation is. Both Apple and Android suffer from it.
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At least we agree on something
Basically this group has come to a few "brilliant" conclusions:
(1) Old devices are entitled to endless support and features (even if it isn't possible with the hardware) and the added features shouldn't impact performance on a device for which the software wasn't specifically built.
(2) iCloud.com = iCloud. And all of the deficiencies on iCloud.com mean iCloud as a whole sucks.
(3) Apple is purposefully killing FaceTime for iOS 6 users in order to get them to updgrade.
Sound about right?
(1) Old devices are entitled to endless support and features (even if it isn't possible with the hardware) and the added features shouldn't impact performance on a device for which the software wasn't specifically built.
(2) iCloud.com = iCloud. And all of the deficiencies on iCloud.com mean iCloud as a whole sucks.
(3) Apple is purposefully killing FaceTime for iOS 6 users in order to get them to updgrade.
Sound about right?
Because iOS 7 still lags on iPad 3 and it's ugly.. Or because the end user doesn't want to.. Both good reasons. I regret updating on my iPad. iPhone runs iOS 7 much better tho.