Scale matters….Yes, because this was the singular instance…
Scale matters….Yes, because this was the singular instance…
Maybe there are two. Don’t know, but it doesn’t matter because fallacious debate is still fallacious debate.Do you really think that there is (was) just one bad app in the App Store? Despite Apple claims, nobody really checks the apps in the App Store (except for the use of "unauthorized" APIs that may reduce Apple profits).
This is how it works:Excuse me, but I was told by people on this forum that Apple would protect my iPhone and keep me safe from the scary third-party app sources. What the hell is this?!
Wait. The Dystopian Megalomaniacs Act fanboys said that iOS sandboxing makes nefarious app activity impossible irrespective of where the app came from. So this doesn’t matter. Right?
No one ever claimed it was “impossible” (nothing is) but keep trying, I guess. No need to make up lies 🤦♂️Wait. The Dystopian Megalomaniacs Act fanboys said that iOS sandboxing makes nefarious app activity impossible irrespective of where the app came from. So this doesn’t matter. Right?
The comparative scale is purely hypothetical. Other stores may implement higher standards and security measures. No store is going to want to be associated as being littered with garbage and malware or nobody will use them. Conversely, up until now Apple hasn't had to compete with other stores, so maybe they aren't trying as hard as they otherwise would in the face of competition.Scale matters….
And other app stores would beThe app store is full of scam apps. It shows that (a) the app store isn’t the safe haven that Apple claims it is, and (b) that it isn’t as big a safety problem in practice as they claim.
And people complain they have to pay core tech fee to Apple if they wanted to use 3rd party.Sandboxing is only one part of the equation
Under the new DMA rules in the EU, Apple will still be reviewing even third party app store apps for security concerns, so this oversight on their part, beyond being embarrassing for them, is actually a really big issue, all joking aside
For your argument to work in your favor, it requires assuming other App Stores will have standards as low as or lower than Apple's. This is absolutely not a given.And other app stores would be
a. NOT full of scam apps?
b. Also full of scam apps?
Now, some addition. 1 store full of scam apps plus (n) more stores full of scam apps…
Yields FEWER scam apps? OR a greater number of scam apps? It’s not a hard question to answer.[/b][/b]
The EU thinks we do. Otherwise, they would not have included that exception in the DMA.There are laws against frauds and scams that can be enforced. We don’t need Apple playing the police.
No one ever claimed it was “impossible” (nothing is) but keep trying, I guess. No need to make up lies 🤦♂️
You contend that there exists a form of control over an app store where content loaded to a repository under that app store’s control can maintain a repository 100% free of scam apps?For your argument to work in your favor, it requires assuming other App Stores will have standards as low as or lower than Apple's. This is absolutely not a given.
I’m glad I have the clarity of thought to understand that, if something doesn’t meet my needs, I have the ability to find an option that DOES meet my needs. To continually buy things that I didn’t enjoy using would make my life quite unpleasant I’d imagine.Apple always wants to project the image of an idyllic world where everything is perfect as long as you only use Apple products in the intended Apple way. But the world is not that, the products are far from perfect, and users have needs and wants that Apple doesn’t (care to) fulfill.
At a rate of 100% free of scam apps? Possibly, but not necessarily likely. At a rate of scam apps lower than Apple's? That's certainly got a fair chance. I don't know why anybody would assume Apple's security standards cannot be surpassed.You contend that there exists a form of control over an app store where content loaded to a repository under that app store’s control can maintain a repository 100% free of scam apps?
I mean, as long as we’re wishing upon a star, why not just come up with an option to Apple Hardware and Apple’s App Store that ACTUALLY improves competition by not trying to cede control in the EU to Apple’s hardware and the Android OS?
Someone else was saying here that other App Stores would, by default, do a better job than Apple and wouldn’t allow scam apps at all! Why would a user tend to be more vigilant?End users would be more vigilant since alternative app stores won't make the claim of being super safe havens. Apple makes it sound like everything in the AppStore has passed Apple's "rigorous" inspection process and is perfectly safe to download and use.
And other app stores would be
a. NOT full of scam apps?
b. Also full of scam apps?
Now, some addition. 1 store full of scam apps plus (n) more stores full of scam apps…
Yields FEWER scam apps? OR a greater number of scam apps? It’s not a hard question to answer.[/b][/b]
Yup, it sure is a jungle out thereApple removed it but they couldn’t if these are 3rd party apps stores. I envy you European countries. Good luck.
It is wild life outside the walled garden.
If there were more stores, they would all operate pretty much the same way with the same percentage of scam apps. There’s no magical bullet in all of IT and Security Infrastructure that could ever prevent a malicious actor from infiltrating any repository they have a desire to infiltrate.No it doesn't. If there were more App Stores Apple would be forced to get security correct rather than it just being a marketing thing. Apple could no longer just tell people the App Store is secure, it would have to actually be secure. That is what competition actually does.