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FAKE tiny-code/kellytm post about being "on iTunes" and deving for 1.1.4 SDK: FAKE
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Don't use them anyway (except for Safari, which I have to cause of my touch.)
But I'll go you one better. 50% of my career success is due to my skill with Perl, so I understand the value of open source. If, after the SDK comes out, someone comes up with a Perl interpreter or libraries for the iPhone, I'll probably be banging around on it.
But I just don't expect Apple to build its business model around me. If I can surf the iPhone wave for some fun, then fine. But the attitude of the 'free' community so far has been that Apple owes them a platform on which they can play, or write their little utilities. Apple owes them no such thing, and indeed owes me, as a stockholder and user of their products, stable, reliable and supported software.
I do hope there's room for people to hack around for fun. But it'll be a little room off of the main house. That's just how things work.
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if anyone ruined his chances ... It was him. I mean, if it was legit, did he really think Apple would be kosher with him throwing that up on his site? Really. C'mon.
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if anyone ruined his chances ... It was him. I mean, if it was legit, did he really think Apple would be kosher with him throwing that up on his site? Really. C'mon.
Yes!!! This HAS to happen! We college students have been waiting! Come on, Apple!
Actually, I was just thinking about it... maybe this guy planned to take the site down today anyway (it was saying he wasn't gonna be doing anymore work on 1.1.3 stuff) and he thought he'd throw that stuff up there to create some 'forum buzz' (succes)?
Like a "::cough cough:: look out for 1.1.4 ::cough cough:: whaa? who said that? wasn't me."
just a thought.
Like a "::cough cough:: look out for 1.1.4 ::cough cough:: whaa? who said that? wasn't me."
just a thought.
Don't get me wrong (my disclaimer before I start) OpenSource has a place, but ultimately people like to get paid. Yeah it's nice to do program as a hobby or develop some apps because you want to see if they would work, but eventually you have to pay bills.
Now as a developer I have two routes I can follow. I can make money by developing for a platform I like (such as the iPhone) creating the apps that I like and quit my boring job writing boring code. Or I can be a 9 to 5'er patching someone else's code and wishing I could be doing my own thing.
I know many people who have contribute and still do contribute to various Open Source projects and they all say the same thing, "I wish I could quit my day job and work on this fulltime!"
Yet, before Apple even announces their plans for 3rd party iPhone apps, they're being bashed and made to look like big brother!
And speaking of Big Brother, if it wasn't for IBM taking on and defeating SCO in court, one of the most popular Open Source projects would be dead in the water.
God...i really hope i haven't ruined this guys chances of working with Apple
Yeah, as the guy above said: Not your fault, his.
If it wasn't intentional. Nothing would surprise me.
A "tiny" clarification.
The URL you posted is not the same site as is being discussed here. (We're discussing tiny-code.com.)
And I guarantee it would be "sooner".
But I'm not convinced it wasn't an "official" leak.
My guess would be these guys had permission from Apple to tell us. Reason being: If the site just magically disappeared and/or they stopped their public efforts, there would be rumor rumor rumor everywhere. They probably said to Apple, "Look, we have a really vibrant community that has supported us through our site. Can we at least tell them (in general) why we're closing down shop before we just abandon them?" It's a reasonable request. They didn't release any proprietary info by doing it. A sensible thing to do as well as the responsible thing to do (instead of saying to their readers, F*** off, we have a job now).
Well your argument that tax dollars laid the groundwork for all future software means that we've already paid for it. Why should we have to pay anymore? Or course that's as ridiculous as saying no one wants to write free software. I also didn't say software was developed for free. Time, opportunity costs, etc... all come into play. It's the software that has been given away that has been the basis of all software today.
Of course Apple doesn't have to open the iPhone platform. But the only reason they wouldn't is because they want to milk as much money from it as possible. Which is of course their right, but don't defend them by saying it's because they want the best user experience or some other nonsense.
The realities of software development means that most software which is written ends up being internal, custom software for a company. So even if you write a cool app for the iPhone and charge $20 for it you'll most likely always need another job to support yourself. So then you have a choice. Do you want to keep charging and get a trickle in of money as people buy it (people will look for a free alternative or do without unless it is really useful). Or do you want to release it for 'free' and get possible donations and most likely many more people using it (if it was useful)?
i just wish we can unlock the phone and use it normally seriously at least for the att people let them unlock there phones for europe
at least for the att people let them unlock there phones for europe
boo boo..
ya..many people are willing to pay..me too... i would...
i dont mind at all
it seems apple do mind getting my money though...
cz theres no friggin way for me to pay as there's no itunes store for my place...my country..now i can see..apple releases SDK...apps distributed through iTunes and some of the apps are worth dying for..like mobile NFS but i can't buy them because theres no store.
and im still left with jailbreaking and downloading apps like rite nw..!!
ya..many people are willing to pay..me too... i would...
i dont mind at all
it seems apple do mind getting my money though...
cz theres no friggin way for me to pay as there's no itunes store for my place...my country..now i can see..apple releases SDK...apps distributed through iTunes and some of the apps are worth dying for..like mobile NFS but i can't buy them because theres no store.
and im still left with jailbreaking and downloading apps like rite nw..!!
i cannot believe you are suggesting this: this is exactly the sort of thing i hope for! or a good port of exult, but don't that happening
off the top of my head..
okay...
1. a truly awesome game like NFS or a RPg r smthn
2. iwork (atleast read capability)
3. data storage area lik a couple 100 MBs for keeping stuff u wanna carry around n download using safari
4. to-do and notes apps with sync to mail/ical (it really is a big big shame that it hasnt been done till now!!
5. more useful bluetooth, like for wireless music and video options n sync n stuff
iDream.lol.
okay...
1. a truly awesome game like NFS or a RPg r smthn
2. iwork (atleast read capability)
3. data storage area lik a couple 100 MBs for keeping stuff u wanna carry around n download using safari
4. to-do and notes apps with sync to mail/ical (it really is a big big shame that it hasnt been done till now!!
5. more useful bluetooth, like for wireless music and video options n sync n stuff
iDream.lol.
What I'd personally like to see
1. Skype-like VoIP app
2. Mobile versions of iMovie 08, iPhoto, (quickly edit photos video captured on the iPhone to send to Flickr, .Mac Web Gallery and YouTube)
3. Remote control app for Apple TV
Hey, RPG's are probably one of the easier genre's to do. A MMORPG for the iPhone would be a potentially killer app. Shoot it would be even more crazy if there could be a WoW port of some sort. I can see tons of geeks getting in on the action.
Yeah, EVERYBODY hates lawyers...
...until they need one.
And you can hate needing them, and their bills then...
Well I guess it is a wish list, but back in the real world you can put the first two in the never gonna happen column.
Had Apple released the iPhone carrier free as we had all hoped, then there would be an off chance that VoIP would be coming in the near future. However with Apple taking their kickback money from AT&T, Orange, T-Mobile, and o2 they have a responsibility to not upset those companies. As a matter of fact VoIP is exactly why I expect the SDK to not be the holly grail people are making it out to be. Apple will be very very selective of what they allow you to instal. It will be through iTunes and don't expect any application that Apple doesn't fully endorse. For example if Adium is ported, and Apple is working on their own solution then they might not let you instal it.
If VoIP does come to the iPhone I predict it will be through the hacking community first. Down the road 3 or 4 years from now, when carriers have warmed to the idea of VoIP and figured out how to make money from it. Then we might see an official implementation.
Moving along to your number two, I have to say that I believe you are greatly overrating the processing power of the phone. iMovie on the phone? You won't even see video recording until the next model. The third one is the most feasible idea. It's one I rather like, would be really cool if the phone acted as a remote to all macs and Apple TV.
correct... i think most were commenting that www.tiny-code.com was taken down... non-operational. (at least i was)
tinycode.com just takes you to a page of what looks like permissions or something.