Think of it this way. $150 for 2 years for a real one versus $25 every two months for a fake which ends up to be $300 over 2 years. It makes more sense to pay for the real one.
a fake one every 2 months? why?
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a fake one every 2 months? why?
Actually I think that worst case would be if the fake cases are a softer aluminum than the real ones. The shorter screws would be more likely to strip out of the case over time. If they do strip out, it will be the the softer aluminum threads in the case that fail and not the steel screws.
The fake ones may be "good enough" for the price for many people, but to say that they are just as good as a real one is simply not true.
"softer aluminum", "screws stripping" You sure are assuming an aweful lot about these cheaper alternatives.
+1 I have to agree with you.
I don't know why people are making assumption that the fake ones are going to fall apart.
I have owned mine for 2-3 weeks+ now... when the day it falls apart, I'll make sure to alert everyone on this forum
I hope everyone is aware that the real one has issues and complaints. I saw someone reporting that the screw broke off on the REAL one Fortunately, the vendor was able to send a replacement
I don't know why people are making assumption that the fake ones are going to fall apart.
I have owned mine for 2-3 weeks+ now... when the day it falls apart, I'll make sure to alert everyone on this forum
I hope everyone is aware that the real one has issues and complaints. I saw someone reporting that the screw broke off on the REAL one
Fortunately, the vendor was able to send a replacement There are aluminum alloys that are thermally treated and artificially aged for additional hardness and there are different grades of hardness. I can't prove that the fakes are softer, but there already have been some complaints regarding striped threads.
I didn't say that it would happen, only that it may be more likely to happen with the fakes. Especially if you take the case on and off very often.
A softer material could also be dented or damaged more easily and chip off the paint or what ever they really use to finish these copies.
Sure is.
ANyone expecting the knockoff to look exactly like the real thing may be disappointed.
Those looking to get a nice case that looks very close to the real thing at 1/6 of the price of the real Element case will most likely be pleased. I am in that camp!
Softer aluminum....hehehe gimme a break.
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Has anyones knockoff case fallen apart yet? Just curious.
I hope everyone is aware that the real one has issues and complaints. I saw someone reporting that the screw broke off on the REAL one
That was me. Dunno if I should be happy about it or sad, but yeah, it did happen with my first Vapor Pro Stealth. GearMoxie did cover me completely too, same day cross shipping, freaking awesome.
Now, is the case worth the extra ~$120 [or whatever]? To me yes, the finish feels better, and I am happy to just have a legit version. BUT, does it really make a full difference? Not really. Different strokes for different folks.
As long as I'm happy with my case, and you [arbitrary, referring to anyone in specific] are happy with your case... what's the big deal? ^_^
Think of it this way. $150 for 2 years for a real one versus $25 every two months for a fake which ends up to be $300 over 2 years. It makes more sense to pay for the real one.
If you have been following this thread, is there any doubt that Vudoo is an element case employee? I'm as "buy American" as the next guy, but seriously, a piece of cnc machined aluminum is simply not worth $150 to most people. If they were priced around $50 I would gladly buy it from Vudoo's coworkers, and I'm sure a lot of others would too.
After much lurking and reading 50+ pages (whew!) I made an order of a Black Ops case from Jackie Lynn (Actually 2 - if it is as neat as the pictures, one will be a gift) ...
My take is this, I was going to spend $20 on a bumper - not much more, not much less - Element was never in the running for my business - I think it is fine that they charge $150 for their unit - I pay full price for many items I want - and avoid knock-offs - just not in this case.
So since Element was not in the running, I am looking for the most bang for my buck - and I think I have found it. I was going to buy a Chinese made bumper anyway - this is the one I bought.
As an aside, since I will be using my phone in public - and people will no doubt see my faux black ops case - I might even be able to drum up some business for Element! I surely won't be advertising that I found a joint named alibaba and purchased direct from China.
I will let the air of mystery surround the bumper and drive those who wish to have as much style as yours truly, into the hands of American industry.
My take is this, I was going to spend $20 on a bumper - not much more, not much less - Element was never in the running for my business - I think it is fine that they charge $150 for their unit - I pay full price for many items I want - and avoid knock-offs - just not in this case.
So since Element was not in the running, I am looking for the most bang for my buck - and I think I have found it. I was going to buy a Chinese made bumper anyway - this is the one I bought.
As an aside, since I will be using my phone in public - and people will no doubt see my faux black ops case - I might even be able to drum up some business for Element! I surely won't be advertising that I found a joint named alibaba and purchased direct from China.
I will let the air of mystery surround the bumper and drive those who wish to have as much style as yours truly, into the hands of American industry.
If I was an Element Case employee, I would have a Vapor Pro on my iPhone 4 and be living in California. I have a Vaja case instead and living in Texas.
I just hate companies who are fakes be it phone cases, clothing, watches and etcetera. I don't understand why these companies can't market it under their own brand instead of trying to pass it off for the real thing. Imagine some person buying a fake case off eBay passing off as being real. Lets say the paint starting to chip off after a month or two. Now the buyer goes onto the forums and screams and yell about the poor quality of Vapor Pro thinking their case is real when it is a fake. Do you see how fakes devalue legitimate products let alone violate intellectual property?
If people are not willing to shell out the cash for the real thing, then get a real case from Apple, Casemate, Speck and etcetera instead.
do what I did...some stranger asked me how much for my case and where he can buy it.
I told him I paid $165 with tax and shipping from elementcase.com and he said thanks. He said "wow...too much"
I'm bringing new business to elementcase by my referral. I should get a commission
I told him I paid $165 with tax and shipping from elementcase.com and he said thanks. He said "wow...too much"
I'm bringing new business to elementcase by my referral. I should get a commission
Hey guys,
Here's my review of the Vapor Pro first gen from www.yoyobase.com.
Let me know what you guys think of the pictures in comparison to my white vapor pro review. Different camera this time.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=13888280#post13888280
Here's my review of the Vapor Pro first gen from www.yoyobase.com.
Let me know what you guys think of the pictures in comparison to my white vapor pro review. Different camera this time.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=13888280#post13888280
do what I did...some stranger asked me how much for my case and where he can buy it.
I told him I paid $165 with tax and shipping from elementcase.com and he said thanks. He said "wow...too much"
I'm bringing new business to elementcase by my referral. I should get a commission
Shouldn't you really be saying ... It's a copy of an Element Case, the finish on the real ones looks much better. At least that would be the truth.
If someone showed me an expensive case with the finish that my copy had, I would also say "wow... too much".
jeez im sick of all these people coming in this thread to preach about the morals of buying a knock off case. obviously people in this thread have already decided for one reason or another to buy a knock off vapor from china already so stop with the little jabs and soap boxing. you're not going to change anyone's minds.
if you're happy with "buying American" and supporting element then more power to you. theres no need for you to come into this thread and look down on others.
if you're happy with "buying American" and supporting element then more power to you. theres no need for you to come into this thread and look down on others.
Why are you in a thread about China Vapor Pros if you are so against it? You're not going to convince anyone here to get the real on. This isn't a matter of a few bucks. This is over a $100 difference in price for something that is well worth the money you pay regardless of the fact that it's a knock-off.
You're iPhone is made in China. Get over it. Would you be happy if they named these cases something else? I hope you don't follow this logic with your clothing.
Don't get any polo unless it's a Polo. Polo is the original and the best. Everything else is a knock-off. Make sure you get the most expensive toothpaste too. Not that Costco Kirkland crap.
You want to make a real difference? Support your local economy. By your produce from local farmers. Get your snowboard/ski gear from local shops instead of places like REI and Sports Authority.
Your "Buy American' logic is very flawed. So is your "Brand name is better without a doubt" logic.
$22 for an aluminum case is great even if it's slightly off on some aspects. At least these sellers have great customer service. Something that Element is known to lack. If you're an Element employee, marinate on that one broski.
You're iPhone is made in China. Get over it. Would you be happy if they named these cases something else? I hope you don't follow this logic with your clothing.
Don't get any polo unless it's a Polo. Polo is the original and the best. Everything else is a knock-off. Make sure you get the most expensive toothpaste too. Not that Costco Kirkland crap.
You want to make a real difference? Support your local economy. By your produce from local farmers. Get your snowboard/ski gear from local shops instead of places like REI and Sports Authority.
Your "Buy American' logic is very flawed. So is your "Brand name is better without a doubt" logic.
$22 for an aluminum case is great even if it's slightly off on some aspects. At least these sellers have great customer service. Something that Element is known to lack. If you're an Element employee, marinate on that one broski.
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As someone who has bought a couple of knock-off cases from China, I am glad that Mr. Scott came here to post pictures of the real and fake side-by-side and offer commentary on the differences. If anything, his contribution to this thread has only reinforced the confidence in my decision to not pay $150 for a case when I bought one for $25 instead. It doesn't really seem to me like he's pushing the "Buy American, you cheap bastard" approach that others have taken here in the past.
Please point out where in this thread that I said buy a real Vapor Pro because it's made in America.
My stance is buy a real product instead of a fake one.
By the way Mr. Element...
Put your money where your mouth is.. You have both the knock-off and real one in your possession. Do a drop test on both. Film it so we can see you actually drop them.
There's several factors that you demonstrate by performing this drop test:
1) You can prove that the durability of the Element Aluminum is superior
2) You will prove that you stand by your claims
3) You will show that you have more confidence in dropping a $150 case than a $23 one
That third one is most important to me. You see, I did not buy this case for drop protection, but I do know it helps for minor drops now thanks to Pezz. I bought this case because it is still aluminum like the real one yet far cheaper. I have more peace of mind knowing that I can care less if I ding or scratch this one up. I will still use it and be just as happy. If I ding or scratch the genuine one that I dumped nearly the same price on as my iPhone, I might cry.
Put your money where your mouth is.. You have both the knock-off and real one in your possession. Do a drop test on both. Film it so we can see you actually drop them.
There's several factors that you demonstrate by performing this drop test:
1) You can prove that the durability of the Element Aluminum is superior
2) You will prove that you stand by your claims
3) You will show that you have more confidence in dropping a $150 case than a $23 one
That third one is most important to me. You see, I did not buy this case for drop protection, but I do know it helps for minor drops now thanks to Pezz. I bought this case because it is still aluminum like the real one yet far cheaper. I have more peace of mind knowing that I can care less if I ding or scratch this one up. I will still use it and be just as happy. If I ding or scratch the genuine one that I dumped nearly the same price on as my iPhone, I might cry.
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If you read the entire thread, you would know that I am one of the very few reviewers who have owned both a real Vapor Pro case and a copy from Jacky Lin, one of the preferred sellers in China. I tried to give an honest review of both cases based on a first hand comparison showing showing photos of the two cases together. I listed my opinion of the short comings of the copy and then I recommended Jacky Lin to buyers who are willing to overlook these short comings. I am not against the Vapor Pro copies and when I ordered mine, I hoped that it would be almost as good as a real one. I do however have a problem with reviewers who say that the copies are the same quality as the real ones. That is simply not true.
Again, if read everything that I posted, you will find that I never said anything about buying American goods over goods made in China. I also never said anything about brand names. Others made those comments, not me. My comments and opinions were all focused on the differences in quality between these products.
I agree and have also said that Element does not have great customer service. I was the one that pointed out that their Facebook page has been full of complaints since the 4S was released and demand went way back up for their products. That's why I bought from one of their dealers and got a discount and great service.
The $27.89 including shipping that Jacky Lin charges for his copies is a fair price for what you get. If the quality was better, I would have kept mine and likely bought yet another color. In my opinion, the price of the copies is fair and the quality of the copies is just fair. To say that the quality of the copies is as good as the real Element Cases is not fair.
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So I tried ordering some cases from 2 different vendors but it wouldn't take my bank card, I have chase and I have seen that a lot of members have had problems. What kind of card did you use?
Or anyone out there have an answer for me?
you guys can email me with an answer its my screen name @me.com thank you
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For some reason I can't get paypal to link to my chase account. Anyone have this problem?
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hi all,
finally ready to make a purchase but im still confused as to what buyer is the best to go with.
im looking for an all black vapor pro for the best price/quality. can anybody post a link please?
thanks so much!
finally ready to make a purchase but im still confused as to what buyer is the best to go with.
im looking for an all black vapor pro for the best price/quality. can anybody post a link please?
thanks so much!
Jacky Lin is currently having a 20% off sale, although I can't attest to the quality. I believe that most who have ordered from him have been happy, though.
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...for-iphone-4-Aluminium-Case-for-iphone-4.html