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FBI Forensic Examiner Stephen Flatley Calls Apple 'Jerks' and 'Evil Geniuses' for Encrypting iPhones
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Have you seen Black Mirror? All our privacy rights will be gone sooner than later.
People laughed when Buck Rogers went to space in comics. And that was less than 100 years ago. You think privacy will exist when they convince us the “other” way is “better” and “safer”?
With people like this calling out Apple for the protection of consumer rights, it should frighten people more than it seems to in 2018.
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Holy **** this is brilliant. Seriously sir, I couldn’t of said it better myself.
Look at the Equifax leak. They made MORE MONEY and THEYRE THE ONES WHO NEGLECTED OUR INFORMATION! And did anyone go to jail? Was anyone punished? Nope. They’re loving their increased stock prices and higher pay checks. It’s disgusting.
People laughed when Buck Rogers went to space in comics. And that was less than 100 years ago. You think privacy will exist when they convince us the “other” way is “better” and “safer”?
With people like this calling out Apple for the protection of consumer rights, it should frighten people more than it seems to in 2018.
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Holy **** this is brilliant. Seriously sir, I couldn’t of said it better myself.
Look at the Equifax leak. They made MORE MONEY and THEYRE THE ONES WHO NEGLECTED OUR INFORMATION! And did anyone go to jail? Was anyone punished? Nope. They’re loving their increased stock prices and higher pay checks. It’s disgusting.
You make it incredibly clear that you have zero knowledge of the computer forensic industry or the state of things. Thanks for playing but you're completely wrong. Not point even continuing things with you from here as you're so far off and nothing is going to change that.
We shouldn’t live our lives based on what is easy or not easy for law enforcement. If they can’t crack a phone, oh well. If some criminals aren’t caught as a result oh well. I don’t expect 100% of all criminals to be caught, nor do I care. A criminal could always go back to face to face communications with trusted individuals . Which is why it took us 10 years to get bin laden.
Thank you. I agree 100% and was actually thinking about Target & Equifax when I said no one would be held accountable. And YES! I love Black Mirror.
Such a good show. Sad that some of the depressing **** that happens in that show will 100% be true sooner or later.
The levels of control made possible by the digital revolution are just too tempting to pass up by the powers that be.
The digitization of information has, and is continuing to, assail those very pillars and cornerstones of freedom and democracy, freedom of thought and expression, and personal privacy. If we the people don't stand up for those rights and freedoms and vigorously defend them, we will eventually lose them.
TIL evil geniuses use encryption to protect people’s private and sensitive data from corrupt government agencies.
[doublepost=1515727245][/doublepost]The United States constitution even talks about a persons privacy because even back then it was an important topic and even back then people didn’t like the government trying to take away privacy.
[doublepost=1515727245][/doublepost]The United States constitution even talks about a persons privacy because even back then it was an important topic and even back then people didn’t like the government trying to take away privacy.
Care to elaborate on the reasoning behind your opinions? (Not saying they are wrong, just very different to some others, I would be interested in understanding your side)
Don't need anything specific to hide in particular. Just sensitive data is enough reason alone.
How confident do you feel posting your credit card details/private notes up here? yeaaaa.. not very hey
If you are in the business, your posts here are heavily coloured by commercial interest.
I’m interested in hearing other people’s opinion, not some company or sales rep idea of their projects.
Yes, people's life are saved by forensic tools, and people are dead because of those. If it can be used it certainly will be misused. You may claim the utilitarian greater good in your sales pitch, but history have shown that while law enforcement are underfunded, criminals and rouge and other state actors are willing to put immensely more resources into their work.
And it is not the forensic tools which is a driver, but social engineering. If someone have access to private information you must assume everybody will if they want to.
For “forensic software tools” it doesn’t matter if it is a paedophilic perpetrator who downloads photos, phone numbers and addresses from a child’s or their parents phone or computer, or a law enforcement officer who do the same to find the perpetrators.
This is bait.
They probably have exceptional breakthrough rates on iOS and want to bait more criminals into using those devices. It's either that or another BS push for an "imaginary backdoor in encryption that only government will ever use and only if they really need to because they're the good guys"™.
They probably have exceptional breakthrough rates on iOS and want to bait more criminals into using those devices. It's either that or another BS push for an "imaginary backdoor in encryption that only government will ever use and only if they really need to because they're the good guys"™.
Les look at scale here. Apple has sold almost 50 MILLION iPhone 8, 8+, and X devices. The FBI only has about 7,000 total iPhones to crack. That’s a fraction of a fraction of a percent under investigation. I’m sure of cracking was easier then FBI would like to view many more.. but that’s a separate issue.
There’s no way Apple is putting code in the OS of 50M devices so that a tiny number can be cracked. Heck if we’ve learned anything it’s that “known good” technology can be cracked after 15 years of use. Apple already has a problem reaching too far, too fast and can barely keep all the security in place we need.. tryning to add deliberate backdoors would be insane.
Corporations have done far more for governments for far less. Look at Intel and their recently revealed Intel Management Engine memory backdoors complete with an "oops, we didn't know these 'bugs' existed" excuse.
Even if you assume Apple has better ethics, the evidence is against your point. Apple still develops Siri, code in 50M devices that probably under 7000 people actively try to use. They also market Face ID as 'security' (and Touch ID before then, despite courts compelling people to unlock devices with a fingerprint). Point being: they're capable of just as much chicanery as other corporations.
Far less time in a lot of cases.
Why would I have something to hide? What’s wrong with just wanting to keep my banking details, friends and family contact info, etc to myself?
EXACTLY. Too many people confuse "having something to hide" with "not having anything I want to share".
I wonder if saudade has curtains over his/her bedroom window? Obviously if you have blinds or curtains over your windows you must be trying to hide something. I wonder if they close that stall door when using a public restroom? They might be smoking a joint in the stall, why else would anyone close the door? They must be trying to hide something.
Yes, you don't like it, just call it fake and with this mind set you can become president of the Untied States.....so scarry.
From the point of view of law enforcement he's correct. However, the world is bigger than law enforcement.
One question to ask the guy is, would he be comfortable if the Chinese Government had a backdoor into his iPhone? Because once you make a door there's nothing to stop anyone else from using it.
One question to ask the guy is, would he be comfortable if the Chinese Government had a backdoor into his iPhone? Because once you make a door there's nothing to stop anyone else from using it.
