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FBI Reportedly Asks Apple to Help Unlock Passcode-Protected iPhones Used by Mass Shooter in Florida
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Because unlike the "good old days", information isn't scribbled down on napkins or in file folders in a file cabinet. Conversations aren't recorded on micro cassettes or recorded on VHS tape. Evidence isn't physical so much anymore. Evidence is now almost all electronic. Text messages, emails, pictures, videos, browsing history, etc. All electronic and on an iPhone, it's very secure.
how can you update an iphone to a time-limited version of iOS if it's locked?
You can't.
If you can, than there's a vulnerability that can and would be exploited otherwise.
Here we go again...
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Yeah, even at the expense of other innocent lives who might be saved. good one.
Because you either design the iPhone to be secure or you don't. If you give a backdoor to the FBI, you give it potentially anyone, for any reason. Wiretaps on circuit switched, plain old telephone systems, are entirely different to breaking asymmetric encryption schemes - and iPhones are used for far more than simply talking to people, they store our entire lives. Math(s) is not subject to the whims of law enforcement or intelligence services.
And in any case if your problem is frequent recurrent mass shootings, the answer likely isn't backdoors to iPhones.
Bravo for taking that stance but I really wonder how resolute you'd be if your life or the life of your family was dependent on it.
Oh, I totally agree. While we're at it, let's stop using fingerprints and DNA to solve crimes and track criminals.
Computers? Naa, everything should be on index cards or microfilm. Reports should be hand written and transcribed to typewriters. The more typos the better!
And cars? You gotta be kidding me. LE should be on foot, or bicycles. Period. It's not right they get cars, too. Just like the "good old days".
I bet you would be the same sort that would accuse law enforcement of being incompetent if they didn't learn, and use, the latest technology.
That being said, you don't make it easy for them and just hand it over. Demand a warrant, demand the Courts are involved, and do everything you can (Apple) to NOT comply.
But your "good old days" notion of law enforcement really doesn't fly. Ever....
Y'all advocating for Apple to help the FBI break iPhone security terrify me.
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That's why people in compromising situations shouldn't be making decisions regarding the privacy of millions of people.
Sorta like how Bartlett stepped down after his daughter was kidnapped.
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That's why people in compromising situations shouldn't be making decisions regarding the privacy of millions of people.
Sorta like how Bartlett stepped down after his daughter was kidnapped.
As much as I love Apple and feeling secure with the data on my phone I believe for serious cases like these Apple should help out, but with Apple supervision where they are all along for the unlocking process and data transfer
Who gets to determine what's serious and what's not?
The suspect is dead, it's not like we're in any more danger from him.
This. Law enforcement should ignore digital evidence and just focus on the stuff that people did 20 years ago, but don't really do now, like take paper notes, send facsimiles and use rotary phones. The phones don't contain much, most people don't spend more than a few minutes a day on them. LOL
No, they can't. The whole progressing point of iOS security is to make it absolutely, mathematically, secure. There is no "back door" - and if there is, Apple must remove it and replace it with rebar-laden brick.
TSA allowed production of luggage with locks which could be opened with master keys. Wired magazine wrote a review of the locks, publishing a photo of the master keys. Just 3 hours after publication, illegal copies were available on eBay.
Apple has the right approach: implement security which even Apple can't circumvent. This keeps users' data secure (including from hostile oppressive governments), and keeps Apple out of any sociopolitical issues about who gets access to "secure" data. It's secure; where it isn't, it needs to be.
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Security saves lives. Yes it can be abused by criminals - this does not mitigate making/keeping the good & innocent vulnerable.
The good ole days? Before dna testing? Before computers? Before telephones? Lets go further to the gun slinging days when investigations were just posting wanted pictures on the wall for reward because they had some random witness say they saw jessie james do it.
And he's still a criminal.
You must watch a lot of TV. Proving conspiracy from just a phone difficult. And they already know who the people are from the meta data. With the meta data then they can look for real crimes like money transfer, weapons acquisitions, etc.
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Who cares about Fox News? At some point reality has to intervene.
I think Apple has - thus far - went about this the best they can. I always mention that I'm ok with law enforcement finding ways to hack into these devices, they shouldn't expect it to be provided to them by Apple. If Apple has the information on hand that helps them and they comply, great.
The sticking point is and probably always will be the government asking for a "back door" entry into these devices. If that became a reality, then you've practically given up on privacy and security at that point.
The sticking point is and probably always will be the government asking for a "back door" entry into these devices. If that became a reality, then you've practically given up on privacy and security at that point.
You are getting your proof of this from where? An unbiased source or the News Media? Hate to break it to you but the media is not unbiased nor do they report fairly.
Also, Congress is so aligned with party you will also not see anything fair there. And to the point of him investigating Hunter Biden, or Joe for that matter, they were busy lining their pockets and abusing the office as well. So careful before you start pointing the fingers around the room as there are no innocents in this and of the two, what Trump has done seems to be the lesser if he is guilty of calling out a prior official for illegal activity...
Or a much more likely expense of innocent lives being ruined.
While you're at it, FBI should also have backdoor to Messenger end-to-end encrypted secret conversations - far more likely exploited for nefarious purposes because they don't live a trace and can't be tapped.
If criminals are not absolute idiots unlocking a phone with disappearing encrypted messages is pointless.
That said, US congress also apparently wanted backdoor into facebooks end-to-end encryption in the messenger.
If you're a rational person, the same.
If you cannot imagine a greater societal good, and we're all just a bunch of egocentric maniacs, then there's really no point to having a society at all.
USA does things without the regard for lifes of others on the planet ALL THE TIME.
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Because they banned all end-to-end encryption and pretty much just tap on to the servers directly?
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If you spend more than 5 minutes a day on your phone you also know how to keep it traceless.
The wannacry attack that was massively destructive to the NHS (British health system) was developed by the NSA and stolen from the NSA. And compared to the NSA, the FBI are rank amateurs as far as cyber security is concerned.
If the FBI has a way to access your iPhone, then six months later the Russians and Chinese have it, and 18 months later it’s in the hand of criminals.
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I always loved this argument. I can tell you I would stay one hundred percent resolute if your life or the life of your family depended on it.
You must not be very knowledgeable with respect to what constitutes evidence and leads for further investigation. For example, text messaging and email communications (even photos) with others who might be involved in some manner with the crime.
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