In regards to the "If you've done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to hide," crowd, I may not have much to hide, but I don't want to advertise what I do have, either.
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FBI Successfully Unlocks iPhone 11 Pro in Ohio, Casting Doubt on Claims it Needs Apple's Help in Florida Mass Shooter Case
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You're kidding, right?
I'm not sure the premise of the article itself is correct. It's saying because the government was able to crack one iPhone 11 Pro, it can therefore crack all phones, so it doesn't need Apple in a totally separate case. Is that really a given? Isn't it possible they could crack one but not the other?
And to be clear, in the case they want Apple's support for, after the guy shot and killed US soldiers, and it looked like he was going to get stopped, he put his phone on the floor and shot it to try to destroy it. There HAS to be something valuable on that phone. I'm with the government on this one.
And to be clear, in the case they want Apple's support for, after the guy shot and killed US soldiers, and it looked like he was going to get stopped, he put his phone on the floor and shot it to try to destroy it. There HAS to be something valuable on that phone. I'm with the government on this one.
If the government needs to rely on a private company to do something, then they're not a very capable government, are they?
I’m on the other side.
this argument that if you have nothing to hide just give law enforcement access is how police states get enabled.
I’ll happily provide access to my phone for example. Once I get an authentic official & duly executed search warrant from a judge & justice system I trust.
How far are you willing to go on this? Maybe make any & all encryption for civilian use illegal, and put everyone in a surveillance state? I know that's hyperbole and taken to an extreme, but I'm just curious to see how far you'd go? Also what happens if you're a suspect (guilty or not)? Will you just give your unlocked phone over?
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Benjamin Franklin
Damn, and here I was thinking that machine was for breeding iPhones…
This is just more evidence that this isn’t about unlocking this particular iPhone, this is about getting backdoor access to all iPhones. Barr is pathetic, as is his boss.
I am shocked at how often people are of that mindset. It is very archaic and, in today's world, very idealistic.
While you may not have done something wrong or illegal, someone might like leverage against you - now or in the future.
This is one of the big reasons why Apple will delete the lightning port in favor of no ports. Less to worry about.
What the FBI really wants is a backdoor to get into any device, at any time, for any reason. Of course they will use the most extreme national security / terrorist threat to justify demanding device manufacturers to implement a backdoor for them but it will quickly devolve into searching iPhones for suspected tax evasion, SEC violations, and countless other non-violent crimes that have nothing to do with terrorism.
The FBI has been caught lying under oath and falsifying evidence numerous times over the years. This isn't Alex Jones reporting it, it is CBS News in 2003 and The Atlantic in 2015 (and numerous other news outlets)
FBI Lab Work Under Serious Scrutiny
Bullet Expert Indicted, DNA Technician Resigns, Methods Challenged
www.cbsnews.com
CSI Is a Lie: Forensic Investigations Are Overdue for Reform
Unless crime labs become independent of police and prosecutors, more scandals seem inevitable.
Even if you trust the FBI 100% to not abuse the ability to snoop on people's phones, how much do you trust them to keep the key to the backdoor safe? The NSA, arguably the most capable and technologically advanced government agency in the world, was hacked by the Shadow Brokers and "cyber weapons" were stolen and used against businesses around the world.
Security Experts Agree: The NSA Was Hacked
Analysis of the software tools made available by the Shadow Brokers suggests that they’re the real deal.
If hackers steal the Apple backdoor key from the FBI, hundreds of millions of iPhone user will be vulnerable to having banking data, health data, private photos and correspondence, and anything else stolen from their devices.
The ‘universal Turing machine‘ cracked the German Code in WWII. A great achievement. The what does one do with the information a very significant challenge not fully understood at the time. From that point in history to today, what does one do with the information. Releasing that we have cracked it, this article, tips bad guys off. Taking too much action on the information also tips bad guy’s off. The solution, ‘shell game’.
I suspect, the iPhone cracking is the same ‘shell game’ played since WWII. Misdirection, move the shells, where is the nut (reality). Keep the bad guys guessing a good thing.
I suspect, the iPhone cracking is the same ‘shell game’ played since WWII. Misdirection, move the shells, where is the nut (reality). Keep the bad guys guessing a good thing.
I wonder why no one ever talks about going after the third party messaging services like Signal or WhatsApp. For me, there’s nothing on my phone that’s local only. Everything syncs out to a cloud provider. My iPhone is my Mac is my iPad is a web browser. Even my 2FA codes go to multiple devices.
Maybe they are and Apple is just a more newsworthy example to make.
Maybe they are and Apple is just a more newsworthy example to make.
what do I need to DIY one of these boxes? 2 lightning cables, a box, what goes inside? cables? some computer chips?
Whatsapp = Facebook. You're not getting any extra privacy there. Probably less in fact.
No it can not, hence why Apple implemented it.
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It could be that the user simply turned the option off to prevent USB devices from accessing the iPhone when locked. I do not think that GreyKey can access past IOS11.
It is simply wishful thinking to believe it can when the USB prevent option is switched off.
What's OK today, MAY be wrong tomorrow. What's wrong today, may be OK in the future.
The standards, goalposts, and ability to accuse are all fungible. I mean, they kicked Kevin Hart of the Oscars for a 10+ year old joke. It was OK at the time, now it's akin to the "N" word.
Who's to say what isn't career ending 20+ years from now? Who decides? Who knows?
So no one safe from it. You could say something in a text message today that is perfectly OK, and 20 years from now you could be doxed, boxed, fired, and cancelled over it.
It's insane, really. So privacy should be everyone's concern. I say make 'em work for it. Just like cracking a safe in days of yore.
Err sorry to have to educate you but here goes. It is a case of what you have to protect. Smartphones like the iPhone have so much ability and we use them for all sorts from banking to emails and many more besides. So by implementing. backdoor for law an order you give that backdoor to criminals or do you think that law and order can always be trusted? You think that they are all perfect and there is no such thing as corrupt police/spies etc?
Have you heard of a guy called Aldrich Ames? Hint: he worked for the CIA and spied for the KGB. A lot of western undercover agents got found out thanks to him and executed by the KGB.
So therefore that blows a whole in your thinking that somehow the powers that be can be trusted. It would b eco easy for someone like Aldrich to obtain the keys to that backdoor and sell it to the highest bidder.
Then you end up with a situation where you iPhone is exposed to anyone who wishes to steal your bank account details and steal your money, then take out loans etc in your name and perhaps gain access to your emails and do all sorts of damage.
perhaps there are people in places like China and Russia where they are opposed to the government and if found out they would be jailed or killed. So privacy is essential. Would you be so angry if that happened? Would you be willing to mourn for those deaths?
privacy is there for a reason and yes sadly evil people will use it to hide behind.
If the government manage to get their way then you do realise it will solve nothing right?
You do know that the terrorists and criminals will just stop using iPhone and instead create their own encryption without any backdoors leaving the people on iPhone to get exploited and harmed by those same criminals and by rogue government/police.
So therefore privacy is here for a good reason and sadly yes some people hide behind it but that does not mean we should destroy all privacy just to appease the power made and corrupt and sociopathic leaders of the so called free world.
Hope that helps you.
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BY your logic you are happy to give me your phone unlocked for a day, just in case you turn out to be a criminal. I mean you have nothing to hide so why not!
You havE no sensitive emails to protect or banking details to protect do you?
because if not then that makes you a.....HYPOCRITE!
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BY that logic you are happy for me to have complete access to your phone and computer then so I can do what I like with your details and banking apps etc/
I mean, if not you're just a bit hypocrite then I guess?
Privacy is there for a reason and yes some evil people hid behind that but how is that any different to the 5th ammendment and how some people abuse it to refuse to talk to the police when they are guilty of a crime?
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If Apple gave FBI a backdoor access to phones, there would be a whole lot more calamities caused by bad actors.
TSA demanded a "backdoor" to luggage locks. You can now buy TSA master keys with ease as a result.
No idea what you're talking about. I am pro-privacy and anti-overreach. I think either you have catastrophically misunderstood the post that you quoted, or I just have...
No ****. It's all a ploy to get root level access to every device an American uses. The goal is a surveillance state. Duh.