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"Tell me again about what it was like with Net Neutrality, Papa"

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Where was this before NN was enacted in 2015?

Don't you just love the fear-mongering?

Hell I was told I was fear-mongering when Obamacare was going to let me keep my plan/doctor and save me $$$. In reality my plan was illegal, lost my doctor, and pay 3x more in premiums, 10x for prescriptions, but hey, I get free transgender counseling and female birth control (as a male) so I have that going for me...which is nice.

Literally have zero credibility. Dodd/Frank killed much of the financing markets. Federal takeover of student loans encouraged debt to get pointless degrees.
 
Huh? So all of the 'innovation' that occurred between the inception of the internet through 2015 was 'hindered'?

So hindered we have companies like Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Apple, Uber, eBay, ect? Hindered like that?

No. But it was possible to hinder it, and totally legal. The fact that nobody did, or was caught doing it, is not the point.

The Obama-era law means that all sites like Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Apple, Uber, eBay, etc are treated the same. Now they don't have to be again. Your internet provider could simply cut out Amazon's services, and you can't use that site anymore at more than a snail's pace, which would render Amazon useless. How is this good?
 
Is there a sane person on the planet who believes that the internet doesn't fall under the internstate commerce clause.

...then again, these are the same people (progressives) who argue that intrastate commerce is really interstate commerce...resulting in such fine prohibitions as the prohibition on marijuana.

First of all this has nothing to do with the Commerce Clause, which dictates the powers of Congress not the FCC. Second, the prohibition of marijuana isn't a particularly partisan issues, and insofar as it is, it is the Republicans who steadfastly refuse to legalize it (Jeff Sessions is a particular vociferous opponent of legalization). So not sure what your point is there...
 
Most people have an elementary understanding of how title 2 works or they haven’t been alive before 2015. Calm the F down.

Edit: way too much misinformation being spread by people on twitter, YouTube and Reddit claiming they know what they are talking about when they have no clue. Nothing is going to change except that we actually might get high speeds into low income neighborhoods and more competition.
 
HRC was a corrupt piece of ****. Sure maybe NN would have survived but she didn’t deserve the presidency either. I pray the American people wake up and demand quality, honest, hard working, proven candidates who have shown through action they care about the American people above all else in future elections. No more of this well they suck but they are on team so I’ll vote for them.

Your naivety and sanctimony is what helped Trump win. Congrats. Perfect candidates don’t exist.
 
Nothing bad happened from 1996 to 2015 like you are all whining about so why would it happened now?

So why is this taking this law away good then? Just because Trump said so? Tell me the benefits of it instead of just being politically partisan.

And tell me all the 'horror' stories of this law from 2015 to 2017. What did this law prevent you from doing?
 
Yes, everything Obama = bad. Everything Trump = good. Stop the political crap and think. Innovation will definitely be hindered by this rule.

Say I want to start up a new website to compete with AT&T-owned DirecTV NOW. AT&T will make my service slower, thus making DirecTV NOW seem much better. This was not allowed previously - all content had to be treated the same.

AT&T later says I'll have to pay them $10,000 a day to make my content the same priority. Really? For a startup? This type of thing will definitely hinder innovation.

I can also imagine politics getting involved. How would you like if Verizon, say, decided to make Foxnews.com and all conservative sites work at 300 baud, while all other liberal sites could go full speed? This effectively silences a party's voice. That's allowed with this new rule, which wasn't allowed before.

Net neutrality is freedom. This is definitely not.

You obviously don't understand supply/demand or any idea of economics. :/
 
Exactly this. I saw no difference in access to the Internet prior to 2015. Just scare mongering by the left. :/

You understand that there is a difference between "you can't do this" (under the Obama admin) and "there's not a rule right now, but we'll probably/might/you better worry about us coming to get you for it, plus the tech doesn't really make this viable yet. (pre Obama) and "Go ahead, we're not doing sh-- to stop you now." (Today), right?
 
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I truly feel sorry for my neighbors down South and all the crap you’ve had to put up with. Gonna be 4 years of hell. Or maybe less, when Trump get impeached
It hasn't been sunshine and lollipops here, either.
 
Netflix Amazon Hulu
Probably see prices going up!

Welp 3 years from now can’t come soon enough!
 
LOL... educate yourself man. There are COUNTLESS times prior to 2015 where ISP's have throttled and blocked companies based on the type of traffic they produce. Netflix had to pay ISP's to get their speeds increased. Look it up on Google.

Educate myself?

Netflix signed an agreement with Level3, a Tier-1 ISP. Level3 had an agreement with Verizon called a Peering Agreement where they agreed to dump the same amount of traffic from the Tier-1 networks onto each others network. Level3 broke this agreement so Verizon enforced it by limiting the amount of traffic Level3 dumped on Verizons Tier-1 network.

Pretty simple stuff and really had nothing to do with Netflix or the type of content Netflix was serving. That network traffic could have been corporate backups, streaming music, Bittorrent. Wouldn't have mattered.

Netflix was trying to abuse Verizon/Level3 cost sharing agreement without paying for a service. They simply wanted to shift their operating costs to Verizon instead of paying Level3.
 
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