Yes the Mac App Store has a long ways to go but if it like any thing like iTunes came out with music and Apps for the iDevices.. I can see the Mac App Store becoming some thing great..
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Yes the Mac App Store has a long ways to go but if it like any thing like iTunes came out with music and Apps for the iDevices.. I can see the Mac App Store becoming some thing great..
I'm sure the prices will drop quickly over time. Usually, when an older product is offered in a new environment, the entry-level price can be rather steep due to the re-seller trying to make some profit as well, but it will drop eventually within a year.
I highly doubt it's my computer. 2k machine having a problem? I didn't say the ran like crap period. I'm saying they run like crap compared to a native port (what Feral does). They are jokes for porting games, a sorry excuse. I can run Cider ports on high on my computer too, doesn't make them comparable to native ports. Period.
People are bashing this way too much.
Do you realize that the developers had to go back into an old game and more or less port it to another system that it wasn't meant for? That means more money that THEY have to spend to do so, I imagine these prices won't stay forever. Everything in the world can't be free you spoiled little brats.
Do you realize that the developers had to go back into an old game and more or less port it to another system that it wasn't meant for? That means more money that THEY have to spend to do so, I imagine these prices won't stay forever. Everything in the world can't be free you spoiled little brats.
One of a number of posts I could highlight echoing my thoughts. Feral have been supporting Mac gaming through thick and thin, porting games for years (Championship Manager, Oni). Their builds have been of good quality, and I believe their port of "Movies" won an award for game fo the year, having added iTunes integration into it. They pay for the right to licence the game from the original software developer, and in the end people still call them rip-off merchants because they charge more than a game that was natively made and sold in its millions on a PC! I still only have one game from Steam: Portal. The other most recent games I've bought have all been boxed native games (Warcraft 3, Spore), or good ported games (Sim City4). We have to support our Mac gaming community. It's not going to grow if there isn't demand for it, and Steam, the App Store and the porters (Aspyr, Feral) all have a role to play.
Did anyone purchase the Mac Store Bioshock port? Does it run well on the latest model of the Macbook Pro 13"? I might chime in if my Mac is capable of running it.
Anyway, i hope they bring us the Hitman Games. I´d really enjoy Blood Money on my Mac!! Retro Ports (iE Thief - Dark Project, Splinter Cell) would be a sweet deal too.
Anyway, i hope they bring us the Hitman Games. I´d really enjoy Blood Money on my Mac!! Retro Ports (iE Thief - Dark Project, Splinter Cell) would be a sweet deal too.
They usually won't tell you but if you go into the package contents of the .app and dig into the MacOS folder, you'll find cider folders and if you look hard enough an exe. Happened to me with sims and just about every new game that isn't WoW. When the ports are done by these third party companies, it is usually with the use of cider, an example would be Aspyr. It costs a lot and there are many legal restrictions in order to port a game natively, cider is a lot cheaper and simpler.
In short all signs point to it being cider, not a definite prediction but I bet you that if you buy the game and look in the package contents, there it will be, a cidered exe.
The MAS is going to become something great but Steam is already great for Mac games.
I can run all these games in Windows too.. Hell, I bought them with Windows in mind. I've never bought any games just because of Steamplay (excuse the kid stuff I have a daughter here) It's the Mac retail channels pre-steam that were a joke. Having to shop around loads of different online stores.. Not even knowing what is and isn't available. Somewhere like Amazon doesnt even stock all of the disparate Mac games. Steam is helping bring a lot of games over and making it much more convenient. Going forward the devs doing the ports will take steam and the MAS into consideration and they'll both flourish.
Really can't understand anyone having Steam hate, or considering it a joke..
Once(if) MAS gets Game Centre support it's going to be interesting and fun to see them compete, but currently the MAS has a hell of a long way to go to match the library and price of the Mac games on Steam.
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Well, one advantage of the MAS is that Apple doesn´t allow a developer to use his own copy protection. I can only speak for myself, but i don´t want my Mac to be plastered with Mac Versions of Securom or worse. I´m even willing to pay a fair price to receive a game without custom DRM. On Steam most games come with their own copy protection accompanied with Steams DRM measures.
This guy is so wrong! Yes, most Mac games are over-priced compared to Windows versions, but Feral only do proper Mac-native ports, not Cider.
Rather than slandering companies, please check the facts first before cluttering threads with this kind of inaccurate information.
I'm not sure - but if the MAS submission rules are like the iOS Appstore ones I would've thought that Cider wasn't possible for Appstore sold titles anyway? Would be a nice way to guarantee you're getting native ports if so.This guy is so wrong! Yes, most Mac games are over-priced compared to Windows versions, but Feral only do proper Mac-native ports, not Cider.
Rather than slandering companies, please check the facts first before cluttering threads with this kind of inaccurate information.
Hopefully someone with more experience will chip in.
You have to understand this forum has been overrun by teenagers that don't think before they post. It's almost pathetic to read through some threads.First of all it's great to see triple A games available and visible to more users via the App Store. I do however find it frustrating to see all the complaints
I own many Feral titles and all are native Mac applications. They also add Mac only extras when possible. Not only that but they have taken the time to patch older titles to run on newer systems and processors so their track record in customer support is excellent.
As most of the top game developers don't make an in house Mac OS X version porting companies have to pay huge sums for the rights to produce a Mac version - gambling on enough sales to turn a profit. This gamble won't always pay off and it means the pricing can't just match the Windows one.
Bootcamp many be popular with many but not everyone wants to buy and maintain Windows and put up with reboots. Any trade of in performance is worth the flexibility of running with our other Mac OS X applications for some of us. Of course we would all like to see price parity and simultaneous releases one day but it is only by supporting Mac OS X versions that the market may grow towards that as developers see the value in making a Mac version.
I don't know about every game on the App Store, I'm talking about Feral. What I say about Feral's ports is correct (unlike the dude who continues trolling this issue) & has been confirmed previously.
See last post (#16) from this older thread re Rome: Total War. Edddeduck works for Feral & regularly interacts with gamers on this forum, answering their questions:
Feral only port games in native code, not Cider
You have to understand this forum has been overrun by teenagers that don't think before they post. It's almost pathetic to read through some threads.
Nice, somebody has a different opinion to your own no matter how well thought out, and they're a "teenager". Duly noted.
First of all it's great to see triple A games available and visible to more users via the App Store. I do however find it frustrating to see all the complaints
I own many Feral titles and all are native Mac applications. They also add Mac only extras when possible. Not only that but they have taken the time to patch older titles to run on newer systems and processors so their track record in customer support is excellent.
As most of the top game developers don't make an in house Mac OS X version porting companies have to pay huge sums for the rights to produce a Mac version - gambling on enough sales to turn a profit. This gamble won't always pay off and it means the pricing can't just match the Windows one.
Bootcamp many be popular with many but not everyone wants to buy and maintain Windows and put up with reboots. Any trade of in performance is worth the flexibility of running with our other Mac OS X applications for some of us. Of course we would all like to see price parity and simultaneous releases one day but it is only by supporting Mac OS X versions that the market may grow towards that as developers see the value in making a Mac version.
A sensible post making some pertinent points...wont go down well with a lot of the people on here....
I can't wait till some companies start making Mac App Store exclusives. You know they will eventually. The distribution system is just too convenient.
Poor Mac gamers
They pay a lot for old games and run it on dated hardware
A good game doesn´t age and a well crafted port is worth the money anyhow. Plus, if it is true, this games now lack any form of copy protection, besides Apples MAS DRM while including all the updates. So yeah, sorry if i don´t feel poor at all.
A good game doesn´t age and a well crafted port is worth the money anyhow. Plus, if it is true, this games now lack any form of copy protection, besides Apples MAS DRM while including all the updates. So yeah, sorry if i don´t feel poor at all.
I like to play games when they come out rather than waiting 3 years. Even new I got these games cheaper than the Apple Store.
Well, while i´d like to play a game when it does come out too, it really isn´t that high up my priority list, not being a major gamer and all.
But yeah, look at it as some form of experiment. I´m pretty damn sure if this goes well, we´ll soon see major releases at the same time as their Windows counterparts. You miss Steamplay? We´ll see if Apple can counter this with Game Center for the Mac. I´m sure Apple will release a version sooner or later, give them some time. The MAS isn´t even online for a month and we already experience the appearance of major games on the platform.
Of course for this to work the companies need to stop being little crybabies when it does come to piracy. Mac users want their version without any custom form of DRM harassment, thank you.
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With console games ruining even the pc market I can see Mac games being even lower on the priority list for major game companies. Most companies concentrating on console games now as they make more money. Damn you consoles ruining my pc games ;(
Maybe, but you shouldn´t underestimate the possibilities of the Mac App Store either. If you have a fast Internet Connection, you can literally buy and download games with a simple click. The only downside is that you can´t resell them, but i hope this changes in the future. One major advantage for the customer compared to Steam is that Apple rules out any game with custom DRM as it seems.