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Finally a 2 button scrolling apple pro mouse!

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here we go again

I like multi button mice with scroll wheels. so I buy one from third parties.

ask my (ex) girlfriend and daughter which they prefer.

they fight over who gets the 1 button apple pro mouse.

if apple didn't make it, they wouldn't have it.

I do wish they would make an awesome mouse with a million buttons, but I see the merits of having a 1 button
 
Wow, what a lame argument.

I've read every post on this thread and boy are my eyes tired. *ba-dum-dum* For those who say that a two button mouse would be too complicated for new users, I have several statements. In the PC world, they are all two button mice. most people start out on a PC with a two button mouse and they seem to have grasped the concept easily. I remember the first time I used a two button mouse (1988 or so). I was nine and it took me an entire three seconds to learn how to use it. The learning curve of using a two button mouse is not steep. For those that say a one button mouse is nicer looking, i have this to ask. According to who? The fact is that Apple hasn't created a two button mouse. the theories as to why are irrelevent. I think they should make one. The one button mouse is more confusing to a potential switcher, it's less productive, and it's cliche. Just my two cents.
 
dragula53 said:
I like multi button mice with scroll wheels. so I buy one from third parties.

ask my (ex) girlfriend and daughter which they prefer.

they fight over who gets the 1 button apple pro mouse.

if apple didn't make it, they wouldn't have it.

I do wish they would make an awesome mouse with a million buttons, but I see the merits of having a 1 button
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Not to single you out dragula53, this applies to all future posters. No one want apple to get rid of the one button mouse. Just add a multi button yada yada yada.
 
cool

markjones05 said:
Not to single you out dragula53, this applies to all future posters. No one want apple to get rid of the one button mouse. Just add a multi button yada yada yada.
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not to single you out either.. but.. aww, I don't have anything to say.
 
Santiago said:
Scroll wheels are ergonomically terrible for your fingers. Hat switches can perform the same function and do not result in RSI from continuously twitching one finger in a cramped motion.
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amen to that single buttuned mice rule
 
Bluetooth Version Delayed

Take a look at the MacMice FAQ:

Are you going to offer a Bluetooth version of your mouse?
Yes, in late-summer 2004. All design, packaging, and tooling is completed. We are simply waiting our turn on the Bluetooth modules we will use on our circuit board, as these are limited availability, "allocated production" components at this time.
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Before it was June. Anyone else wondering if the freaking thing will ever ship?
 
I love the look and feel of the Apple mice. There is something about them that makes them "Perfect".

However, I have to agree with those here who advocate Apple make a multibutton, scroll-wheel enabled, Apple Pro Mouse. Preferably with BlueTooth.

The single-button mice slow me down. I use context menus. I use a scroll-wheel in Safari and in Word, not to mention Excel. (Infact, wouldn't it be great to have a multi-directional "scroll ball" to have a full range of 2D motion?)

At the moment I have a metalic Logitech mouse - a Logitech TrackMan Traveler: two buttons and a small scroll-wheel. The metalic look almost exactly matches my PowerBook's aluminium case. It's USB, but that's acceptable. I also have an Apple Wireless mouse, but I rarely use it anymore.

So, I wish Apple would get their act together and produce a two-button, preferably scrollwheel-enabled, preferably bluetooth mouse to be available as an option. I want an Apple mouse, with the same quality and feel. I don't want a mouse made by another company.
 
I often wonder why apple simply won't create a multibutton mouse with scroll wheel. They aren't that hard to use. They could even include a pivot in the pro mouse design so that the same similar motion used in the current pro mice would be adapted to a 2 button mouse. Just rock your hand to the left or right. If they set up the pivot points right, gamers could even use it for chording, so that a click near the front middle would chord easier than a click in the middle middle (this would actually keep it from chording at the wrong time if someone has a heavy hand). Roll right, roll left, tip forward, with tip forward restricting the possibility of your wrist rolling left or right through well chosen pivot points. Add an optical scroller that can tell the difference between brushing over it and actually scrolling and you have an extremely asthetically pleasing mouse with no visible seams in the surface that has all the functionality of a multibutton mouse.

And yet, even with such a 2 button mouse, there are people who are continually messed up by two buttons. I've heard people say that two buttons are so simple and that anyone who can't use them must be stupid. Fact is, I've seen people who I think it would be unfair to label stupid continually get all messed up with contextual menus. So I can see the argument that there is unnecessary complexity added with two buttons. Why apple does not make a pro mouse, though, and then a one-button mouse seems foolish. It would be a sweet mouse, if apple designed it. Oh, how I'd love a mouse like I described.
 
EK03 said:
any nice 3 button mice to match the aluminum of the PBs?
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I have just received the new Logitech MX900... it is awesome.

It fits perfectly into my hand, and is a great design. My 15" pBook BTO arrived today, and i will be getting it tomorrow, but the MX900 has similar silvery colour so im sure it will match it nicely.

This mouse is beautiful. :)

~ozi
 
heres a picture of one, sitting in its charger/bluetooth receiver.
mx-900.jpg
 
oh, i love my logictech mouse to, although not as fancy as ozi's...I love the little button to switch between applications, the left and right arrows, the right click and especially the scroll wheel that you can even click, mmm mmm... :D

A mouse full of buttons is simply a much more sophisticated way of interacting with your computer, than using your keyboard (and one button mouse) it's fast and intuitive and I imagine it has lots of unexplored potential...
:)

adam
 
Woah, Nelly

markjones05
Hey, buddy, calm down. Flaming like that is usually reserved for Fark. Believe me, I know.

I think when he's talking about people who want the two-button mouse, he's talking about the elderly (I've helped many an older person who was confused about the 2-button scheme on PC's. Like one said, "It would just be easier with one.") and children (see that mom's post above). Maybe even some real newbies to computers. It is easier to move your whole hand down as opposed to your finger (as ergonomics proves), and does less strain and stress to your hand. Apple did alot of research and put alot of common sense into the Pro mouse. The point was to make things easier.
If you want a different mouse with multiple buttons, then just buy a 3rd party one. No biggie, and a silly argument to throw insults at someone about. :eek:
 
how many have forgotten that "the mouse" is a nick name for a "pointing device"? such a pointing device has two functions: it has to be able to "move" the pointer and "click" what has been pointed, and that's it. nothing more is essential. apple "one-button mouse" is a perfect "pointing device" by definition.

macintosh interface has benefited from this in such a way that it doesn't care about the type of the pointing device - it can very well be a touch screen instead of a "mouse", and the os (and many of the software written for mac) doesn't have to do anything differently. there are gui elements that are pointed and cliced, and that's it.

compared to windows interface where it is absolutely necessary to have such a pointing device that can perform two different kinds of "clicks". now if you replace the "mouse" with a touch screen, you're in trouble. how on earth will you tell the touch screen that this is a click performed by index finger and this is a click performed by a middle finger? compare the ease of use of any interface by imagining you're using the system via touch screen, and you have pretty good usability test of the interface. if it works intuitively and fast with the pointing device only being able to "move" and "click", then it's a good interface. if any of the functions cannot be used with these two actions, there is a design flaw in the interface.

apple has done a pretty good job regarding the usability of its interfaces, and the "one-button mouse" as a pointing device is one of the reasons for that. of course there are shortcuts, but they are considered "extra", and there's nothing wrong if someone wants to choose a different kind of a pointing device. it's just that apple needs to stick with it, because it is so fundamental to them. period. it is perfectly ok that apple sells only the mice it chooses to.

and, by the way, i consider myself as a "power user", but still prefer the "one-button mouse" as a pointing device. i also have a "two-button mouse with a scroll wheel" kind of a pointing device made by logitech, but i find the apple wireless much better than that. and i mean better, always, even when working with protools or photoshop.
 
I've been using a Macally I Opti Jr. for a couple years now that has the 2 buttons and scroll wheel - Love it - And it lights up red when I use it!! (it's clear and optical)
 
sockeatingdryer said:
markjones05
Hey, buddy, calm down. Flaming like that is usually reserved for Fark. Believe me, I know.
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I am clam... Just because I make a good argument doesnt mean im "Flaming". Who did I insult? I havnt visited this thread in months, I cant believe its still going.
 
Perhaps because it's not stupid.

I'm an ex-windows user, and I use a MX500 with my Mac (5 buttons + Scroll).

HOWEVER, I do think that Apple is making a fine move in sticking to the 1 button mouse. If you're teaching a child or an elderly person how to use a computer, or even SHOWING someone how to do something on a computer, it makes life a lot easier if there's only one button. Simplicity is one of the biggest selling points of a Mac to many users -- the hardware is elegant and has no more bells and whistles than needed, just like the software. The idea is that it's VERY easy to learn to use, and it really makes the whole computer less intimidating.

Another thing to consider is that it simply forces all developers to maintain a clean UI. When most Mac users only have one button, the developers have to cater to that -- cleaner UIs result.

Could apple make this an option? Sure, but why bother? It's not like there aren't a million other 2 button + Scrolling mice out there, and apple even sells them. The pro mouse can't cost more than $10 for apple to manufacture, so it really isn't wasteful for them to include them with every Mac, and when you buy an apple computer, it's not like you're paying through the roof to shell out another $20 for a fancy mouse.

Getting the fancy mouse IS an option, it's just that you can't get one that's apple branded... but who cares, really?
 
Anticipat3 said:
Could apple make this an option? Sure, but why bother? It's not like there aren't a million other 2 button + Scrolling mice out there, and apple even sells them. The pro mouse can't cost more than $10 for apple to manufacture, so it really isn't wasteful for them to include them with every Mac, and when you buy an apple computer, it's not like you're paying through the roof to shell out another $20 for a fancy mouse.

Getting the fancy mouse IS an option, it's just that you can't get one that's apple branded... but who cares, really?
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I want an apple branded multi purpose mouse... thats the point. U can get a keyboard anywhere, or a monitor or a pc for that matter. People want apple stuff cause its better. I want an apple 2 button mouse, im not asking them to incluse it in pro models...that would be a plus. Just offer it! If apple used the reasoning you just explained they wouldnt even be a company... There are a million other computer companies out there so why bother.... right? Isnt that what your preaching?
 
Wow, this is precisely what I was looking for before I decided to settle back on the Apple Pro Mouse. It feels better than any other mouse, for sure. Of course, this isn't bluetooth yet so it wouldn't have worked for me. If it does become bluetooth, I might think about it.
 
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