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Finally Gas Below $3

last week there was a "deal" for gas at 2.99 at a local station, and they were doing giveaways and free food while people lined up.

now it seems like gas everywhere around town is there. i guess enjoy it while it lasts?

neiltc13 said:
I got a bargain tonight at bp. 104.9p per litre or $6.93/gal to you Americans.
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isn't your gas heavily taxed? (well higher taxes in general too, right?) or why else is the gas numerically more expensive? i think ours is gov't subsidized
 
$2.58 in my neighborhood today. Plus I get $.10/gallon discount from the kid's after school job. Plus $.12/gallon discount from Cub grocery discount.

The low typical price is because there are two refineries just outside the metro area. Also, our gas is often called welfare gas because it is heavily subsidized by state corn/ethanol subsidies. That part I disagree with. Everyone knows ethanol is a bad idea and it ultimately pollutes more than 100% gasoline and uses a lot of water because of the manufacturing process.

$2.36/gallon final price is nice but what I save on fuel I spend on higher food prices that are a result of heavy ethanol use.
 
donga said:
isn't your gas heavily taxed? (well higher taxes in general too, right?) or why else is the gas numerically more expensive? i think ours is gov't subsidized
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Yeah, very heavily taxed. It might also be that we are a smaller country and produce far less ourselves than we used to i suppose.
 
JG271 said:
Yeah, very heavily taxed. It might also be that we are a smaller country and produce far less ourselves than we used to i suppose.
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With gas prices this high the tax in the U.S. might as well be zero. It's about 48 cents a gallon in North Carolina -- less than 20 percent right now. The taxes in Europe run around 100 percent.
 
They reckon that Petrol will drop to about 99.9p a litre the way things are going, 102.9p near me, i have to commute to london and back every week. I have a 1.8litre Petrol Turbo Audi and get about 35mpg or 22 if i do 100+mph on the motorway

The minimum octane here is 95 premiums are either 98 or 99 octane

Diesel is still really expensive though (city diesel for cars).
 
velocityg4 said:
The last I checked a couple of days ago it was around $3.45 for regular. If it dropped back to the $1.50 or lower a gallon days I would have to get a 4 wheel drive 3/4 ton 80's Suburban with a 454:eek:.


The flaw here being if you are driving your car everywhere paying $8 a gallon. Then you are not using the public transportation systems thus you are being unwillingly forced to pay for something of no use to you. And what about people that work on site and have to transport equipment they are already hurt by current prices and many would be ruined at $8 per gallon. Hiking your prices will not work either since your customers also have less money and would not be willing to pay higher prices to offset your costs.

I say go ahead and build massive public transportation systems here but pay for it with the ticket prices for the actual users. Don't make those who do not use or need it pay for it. The other problem with building mass public transportation here is that we have a vast land area with a low population density compared to Europe. The UK is about the size of Oregon with 1/5 the population of the US or 640 people per square mile in the UK compared to 80 in the US. Though in major cities it makes sense and the do have public transportation.

Land area and population data from the following links
http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/populations/ctyareal.htm
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0108355.html
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First off, as mentioned earlier, US has different (more demanding) driving patterns. I have lived/worked in EU and I wasn't anywhere near the daily driving mileage I am getting now here in suburban NJ (which is like 15 minutes away from NYC). Buses/trains here are extremely unreliable and once they do arrive on time, I get one bus per hour to NYC.

If it makes you feel better, places like Saudi Arabia or Venezuela pay just a couple of cents per liter... Reality is that EU is heavily taxed but again, throughout my experience, transportation is better, you got beautiful architecture, houses not built like a deck of cards, and oh yeah, public health care and if anyone tells me that private system health care is better then you didn't go to emergency room in NJ in one, of what supposedly is, of the best hospitals, 2 hour wait and then battling with my insurance as to who covers what. First thing I had to do was fill out 5 pages of insurance forms before any doctor looked at me. Waiting times in US at most doctors are just horrendous, you set up an appointment just to be on time so you can wait another 60 minutes before getting admitted, I have never experienced such a lacking health service in Europe... Anyway, all of it is a lot deeper than people imagine...
 
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Yes it is a relief.
Cheapest I've seen here in NH is $2.75
 
Wow, some luck for me. Now that I'll shortly have a car, gas seems to be nosediving in price.

It was 3.09 5 days ago, now its 2.78 at the gas station next to my work. (Hanover, MD 21076)
 
Gas in Wichita, KS is at $2.30 or so this morning. Seems to fall a couple cents each day. Hopefully we will see gas under $2!!
 
Now if it would just stay there for a while, before the arabs and Chavas gets greedy and cuts oil production. We still need out own oil, then we could tell them where to get off at.
 

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Paid $2.69 yesterday at a Mobil station, probably could have found something $0.10 cheaper if I looked around a little more, but I was running on fumes so I had to settle for that.

First time I have ever been able to get more than half a tank in my car for $20 (only been driving for about a year).
 
$2.24 here in town, $2.05 about an hour south of me.

Will see less than $2.00 this week at the rate it is dropping.
 
edge540 said:
Gas in Wichita, KS is at $2.30 or so this morning. Seems to fall a couple cents each day. Hopefully we will see gas under $2!!
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Come to Derby, it's much cheaper here. $2.05 is the lowest I've gotten it for.
 
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