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Well the bigadv units is where the points are at. I've heard of people doing them with an i7 iMac. You could give it a shot, and if you think it's too hit, then just stop it and do the a3 units

tried hitting up again but it cant connect to the server :( i might try in a few hours or so..
 
Hmm. Yeah try again in a few. If still nothing, then let us know exactly what you're doing

just tried again and the same thing.

i open up terminal, type the commend to get FAH running - it asks me to connect yada yada. i press 'C' to connect then it states this..

Code:
[19:27:38] Loaded queue successfully.
[19:27:38] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[19:27:39] > Press "c" to connect to the server to download unit
c[19:27:41] - Establishing connection
[19:27:44] Cleaning up work directory
[19:27:44] + Attempting to get work packet
[19:27:44] Passkey found
[19:27:44] - Connecting to assignment server
[19:27:45] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[19:27:45] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[19:27:45] - Attempt #1  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

any ideas? i dont have terminal using my proxy server so i know thats not an issue.
 
just tried again and the same thing.

i open up terminal, type the commend to get FAH running - it asks me to connect yada yada. i press 'C' to connect then it states this..

Code:
[19:27:38] Loaded queue successfully.
[19:27:38] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[19:27:39] > Press "c" to connect to the server to download unit
c[19:27:41] - Establishing connection
[19:27:44] Cleaning up work directory
[19:27:44] + Attempting to get work packet
[19:27:44] Passkey found
[19:27:44] - Connecting to assignment server
[19:27:45] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[19:27:45] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[19:27:45] - Attempt #1  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

any ideas? i dont have terminal using my proxy server so i know thats not an issue.

interesting. have you ever gotten it to work on this computer?

i have mine setup to connect and download the work unit automatically - no need to press 'c' or anything. you might try it that way. even though that shouldn't matter
 
so i hit 6 million on 17 mar, and today (20 apr) i hit 7 million! that's about 34 days. much better than my last million, but still not as good as it could be. hopefully i'll get everything worked out and going smoothly

so 7 million on 20 APR, and 8 million on 9 MAY. that's about 19 days. getting better! but i will have a big outage at the end of june and start of july though
 
just tried again and the same thing.

i open up terminal, type the commend to get FAH running - it asks me to connect yada yada. i press 'C' to connect then it states this..

Code:
[19:27:38] Loaded queue successfully.
[19:27:38] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[19:27:39] > Press "c" to connect to the server to download unit
c[19:27:41] - Establishing connection
[19:27:44] Cleaning up work directory
[19:27:44] + Attempting to get work packet
[19:27:44] Passkey found
[19:27:44] - Connecting to assignment server
[19:27:45] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[19:27:45] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[19:27:45] - Attempt #1  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

any ideas? i dont have terminal using my proxy server so i know thats not an issue.

Some of my machines aren't always getting work units either, it's not your fault or your machine, I get the impression that Pande Lab is struggling to keep up with us is all - good for them, bad for us :p it should eventually get a wu but may take several days of continuously trying...

Are you on dialup? that is why you might want to have a "connect button" otherwise you don't need that when you do the -config, which you can redo anytime you restart folding.
 
thanks!

i'll be moving (b/c of my job). so i'll have to find a place to live and all that

Oh, that would be a good reason... I'm glad I won't have to move anytime soon. I have moved so many times in the past that I hope I never have to move again, unless I get rich all of a sudden :D
 
interesting. have you ever gotten it to work on this computer?

i have mine setup to connect and download the work unit automatically - no need to press 'c' or anything. you might try it that way. even though that shouldn't matter

yup its worked plenty of times from this machine :)

Some of my machines aren't always getting work units either, it's not your fault or your machine, I get the impression that Pande Lab is struggling to keep up with us is all - good for them, bad for us :p it should eventually get a wu but may take several days of continuously trying...
oh that might explain it. i will leave it on for a while and see how it goes - nice suggestion :)

Are you on dialup? that is why you might want to have a "connect button" otherwise you don't need that when you do the -config, which you can redo anytime you restart folding.
nah lol ADSL2+ (20mb), i might just leave it on for a bit and hope that it gets something
 
Oh, that would be a good reason... I'm glad I won't have to move anytime soon. I have moved so many times in the past that I hope I never have to move again, unless I get rich all of a sudden :D

yeah moving is not fun. but this time i'm going to get a house, apartments are too small. i gotta spread out the heat! :cool:
 
oh ok i gotcha. what kind of times per frame (every 1%) are you getting with the 09s on the bigadv units?

Had to wait till I got in this morning to give you an answer, then found I had to restart one of them (hung at 98% :mad:)

I think this is what you looking for (one of the '09s)
using 8 cores:

[14:12:37] Entering M.D.
[14:13:08] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
[15:09:22] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[16:04:04] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[16:57:47] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)

here's the other one
using 16 cores:

[09:25:56] Entering M.D.
[09:26:29] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
[10:00:26] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[10:34:28] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[11:08:22] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[11:42:23] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)
 
Had to wait till I got in this morning to give you an answer, then found I had to restart one of them (hung at 98% :mad:)

I think this is what you looking for (one of the '09s)
using 8 cores:

[14:12:37] Entering M.D.
[14:13:08] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
[15:09:22] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[16:04:04] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[16:57:47] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)

here's the other one
using 16 cores:

[09:25:56] Entering M.D.
[09:26:29] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
[10:00:26] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[10:34:28] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[11:08:22] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[11:42:23] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)

oh ok thanks. yeah the one with 16 cores is right at my i7 @ 4.0 ghz, or pretty close.
 
Here is my macpro 09

Code:
[18:13:14] Completed 115000 out of 250000 steps  (46%)
[18:39:17] Completed 117500 out of 250000 steps  (47%)
[19:05:30] Completed 120000 out of 250000 steps  (48%)
[19:31:48] Completed 122500 out of 250000 steps  (49%)
[19:57:43] Completed 125000 out of 250000 steps  (50%)
[20:23:43] Completed 127500 out of 250000 steps  (51%)
[20:50:19] Completed 130000 out of 250000 steps  (52%)
[21:16:13] Completed 132500 out of 250000 steps  (53%)
[21:42:00] Completed 135000 out of 250000 steps  (54%)
[22:08:21] Completed 137500 out of 250000 steps  (55%)
[22:34:20] Completed 140000 out of 250000 steps  (56%)
[23:00:04] Completed 142500 out of 250000 steps  (57%)
[23:26:08] Completed 145000 out of 250000 steps  (58%)
[23:52:33] Completed 147500 out of 250000 steps  (59%)

and I finally have the i7980x doing bigadv units, we'll see how that goes.
 
Here is my macpro 09

Code:
[18:13:14] Completed 115000 out of 250000 steps  (46%)
[18:39:17] Completed 117500 out of 250000 steps  (47%)
[19:05:30] Completed 120000 out of 250000 steps  (48%)
[19:31:48] Completed 122500 out of 250000 steps  (49%)
[19:57:43] Completed 125000 out of 250000 steps  (50%)
[20:23:43] Completed 127500 out of 250000 steps  (51%)
[20:50:19] Completed 130000 out of 250000 steps  (52%)
[21:16:13] Completed 132500 out of 250000 steps  (53%)
[21:42:00] Completed 135000 out of 250000 steps  (54%)
[22:08:21] Completed 137500 out of 250000 steps  (55%)
[22:34:20] Completed 140000 out of 250000 steps  (56%)
[23:00:04] Completed 142500 out of 250000 steps  (57%)
[23:26:08] Completed 145000 out of 250000 steps  (58%)
[23:52:33] Completed 147500 out of 250000 steps  (59%)

and I finally have the i7980x doing bigadv units, we'll see how that goes.

oh wow. those numbers are nice! thanks for sharing.

i'd like to see the i7 980x numbers too
 
oh wow. those numbers are nice! thanks for sharing.

i'd like to see the i7 980x numbers too

It seems I got stuck with an a0 unit last night that I thought was a bigadv unit cuz it was taking quite a while to do a frame, it was just single threaded. it now has an a3 unit.

A previous a3 unit on the i7980x:
Code:
[23:25:38] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps  (0%)
[23:28:45] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps  (1%)
[23:31:51] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps  (2%)
[23:34:58] Completed 15000 out of 500000 steps  (3%)
[23:38:05] Completed 20000 out of 500000 steps  (4%)
[23:41:11] Completed 25000 out of 500000 steps  (5%)
[23:44:19] Completed 30000 out of 500000 steps  (6%)
[23:47:26] Completed 35000 out of 500000 steps  (7%)
[23:50:34] Completed 40000 out of 500000 steps  (8%)
[23:53:41] Completed 45000 out of 500000 steps  (9%)
[23:56:49] Completed 50000 out of 500000 steps  (10%)
[23:59:56] Completed 55000 out of 500000 steps  (11%)
[00:03:04] Completed 60000 out of 500000 steps  (12%)
[00:06:12] Completed 65000 out of 500000 steps  (13%)
 
It seems I got stuck with an a0 unit last night that I thought was a bigadv unit cuz it was taking quite a while to do a frame, it was just single threaded. it now has an a3 unit.

A previous a3 unit on the i7980x:
Code:
[23:25:38] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps  (0%)
[23:28:45] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps  (1%)
[23:31:51] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps  (2%)
[23:34:58] Completed 15000 out of 500000 steps  (3%)
[23:38:05] Completed 20000 out of 500000 steps  (4%)
[23:41:11] Completed 25000 out of 500000 steps  (5%)
[23:44:19] Completed 30000 out of 500000 steps  (6%)
[23:47:26] Completed 35000 out of 500000 steps  (7%)
[23:50:34] Completed 40000 out of 500000 steps  (8%)
[23:53:41] Completed 45000 out of 500000 steps  (9%)
[23:56:49] Completed 50000 out of 500000 steps  (10%)
[23:59:56] Completed 55000 out of 500000 steps  (11%)
[00:03:04] Completed 60000 out of 500000 steps  (12%)
[00:06:12] Completed 65000 out of 500000 steps  (13%)

oh ok. not bad. i'm not sure what kind of PPD you're getting with those times
 
yeah some are still getting work. do you have it to connect automatically now?

no im not aware how to do that. would you mind telling me? :)

EDIT: its working now!! yays! i think i got an a3...

Code:
Making 1D domain decomposition 8 x 1 x 1
starting mdrun 'Protein in POPC'
62500004 steps, 125000.0 ps (continuing from step 62000004, 124000.0 ps).
[10:38:43] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps  (0%)
[10:44:04] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps  (1%)
[10:49:28] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps  (2%)

where is the place that you can check for your work unit thingos?

61°C my iMac is idling on - CPU fan went from 1k to 2k. i know ive asked this before, but is there anyway to change CPU usage?
 
no im not aware how to do that. would you mind telling me? :)

EDIT: its working now!! yays! i think i got an a3...

Code:
Making 1D domain decomposition 8 x 1 x 1
starting mdrun 'Protein in POPC'
62500004 steps, 125000.0 ps (continuing from step 62000004, 124000.0 ps).
[10:38:43] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps  (0%)
[10:44:04] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps  (1%)
[10:49:28] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps  (2%)

where is the place that you can check for your work unit thingos?

61°C my iMac is idling on - CPU fan went from 1k to 2k. i know ive asked this before, but is there anyway to change CPU usage?

well first, how exactly are you using fah? are you manually starting it in terminal? and if so, what command are you using?

when i first setup fah, i run ./fah6 -configonly
i do this to configure the client. once configured, i don't have to change any settings, i just start it and let it go. when i configure it, i tell it to not ask before fetching new units. so it will do it by itself

here is the team summary stats page. you can find yourself from there. then you can track your stats.

to manage how many cores it uses - again, this depends on how you are using the client. if you are starting it from the terminal manually, then this is easy.

example of what i do:

./fah6 -smp 7 -bigadv -verbosity 9 -local

here when i put -smp 7, i'm telling it to run 7 instances of folding.exe, and that will use 7 cores for me. on some systems i run -smp 8, but it just depends on the system. if i had a mac pro, i'd use either -smp 15 or -smp 16.

but you could use -smp 4, or -smp 3 if you wanted. since you aren't using -bigadv units, you would use -advmethods instead.

i hope this helps. let me know if you have any other questions
 
well first, how exactly are you using fah? are you manually starting it in terminal? and if so, what command are you using?
yup starting terminal manually then i type the path.. from there it just starts running.

Code:
/Users/Jordan/Downloads/FAH6.29-OSX-Intel-Console/fah6

when i first setup fah, i run ./fah6 -configonly
i do this to configure the client. once configured, i don't have to change any settings, i just start it and let it go. when i configure it, i tell it to not ask before fetching new units. so it will do it by itself

here is the team summary stats page. you can find yourself from there. then you can track your stats.

to manage how many cores it uses - again, this depends on how you are using the client. if you are starting it from the terminal manually, then this is easy.

example of what i do:

./fah6 -smp 7 -bigadv -verbosity 9 -local

here when i put -smp 7, i'm telling it to run 7 instances of folding.exe, and that will use 7 cores for me. on some systems i run -smp 8, but it just depends on the system. if i had a mac pro, i'd use either -smp 15 or -smp 16.

but you could use -smp 4, or -smp 3 if you wanted. since you aren't using -bigadv units, you would use -advmethods instead.

i hope this helps. let me know if you have any other questions

thats a wonderful explanation! thanks so much! im currently at 39% of my 2nd unit on my iMac - and 40% on my hackintosh.. if i were to stop it processing now (by hitting ctrl+c) would it continue from where it was once i restart? id rather take a few cores off it to be honest, my machine is running a tad sluggish with the VM that i have going.

oh, and mine fetches units for me automatically - but when i first open the client it asks to press "c" to connect. im fine with that.
 
yup starting terminal manually then i type the path.. from there it just starts running.

Code:
/Users/Jordan/Downloads/FAH6.29-OSX-Intel-Console/fah6



thats a wonderful explanation! thanks so much! im currently at 39% of my 2nd unit on my iMac - and 40% on my hackintosh.. if i were to stop it processing now (by hitting ctrl+c) would it continue from where it was once i restart? id rather take a few cores off it to be honest, my machine is running a tad sluggish with the VM that i have going.

oh, and mine fetches units for me automatically - but when i first open the client it asks to press "c" to connect. im fine with that.

ok. so when you type in that command, do you give it flags? (like -smp 4) or do you just type it exactly like that and press enter? there are 2 ways to go about this (that i'm aware of)

1. is to type the command and flags all together. so in your case like this:

Code:
/Users/Jordan/Downloads/FAH6.29-OSX-Intel-Console/fah6 -smp4 -verbosity 9 -local

2. or you can run the -configonly and configure the client, and put in the extra flags when you configure it, so you don't have to type all that every time. the only problem is that if you want to change those flags, you have to configure it again.

i'm glad to help :)

and yes, it should continue from where you left off if you stop the client (you might lose 1% maybe). now sometimes people have lost units, but that's mainly with bigadv units and after restarting the machine, not just the client.
 
ok. so when you type in that command, do you give it flags? (like -smp 4) or do you just type it exactly like that and press enter? there are 2 ways to go about this (that i'm aware of)

1. is to type the command and flags all together. so in your case like this:

Code:
/Users/Jordan/Downloads/FAH6.29-OSX-Intel-Console/fah6 -smp4 -verbosity 9 -local

2. or you can run the -configonly and configure the client, and put in the extra flags when you configure it, so you don't have to type all that every time. the only problem is that if you want to change those flags, you have to configure it again.

i'm glad to help :)

and yes, it should continue from where you left off if you stop the client (you might lose 1% maybe). now sometimes people have lost units, but that's mainly with bigadv units and after restarting the machine, not just the client.

yup i think ill do the method below.

Code:
/Users/Jordan/Downloads/FAH6.29-OSX-Intel-Console/fah6 -smp4 -verbosity 9 -local

each time i open up terminal then i can just press the up arrow, so i wont have to type it again. that doesnt bother me lol.

ill stop it and try now! let me see how i go.
 
yup i think ill do the method below.

Code:
/Users/Jordan/Downloads/FAH6.29-OSX-Intel-Console/fah6 -smp4 -verbosity 9 -local

each time i open up terminal then i can just press the up arrow, so i wont have to type it again. that doesnt bother me lol.

ill stop it and try now! let me see how i go.

good luck! hopefully it works for you ;)
 
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