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People who can't afford the X are insecure and attempting to justify an inferior phone with:
• a smaller battery (capacity and life, as proven by independent tests)
• smaller/lower-quality display (worse pixel density, lower contrast ratio, smaller size, past-gen LCD vs next-gen OLED tech)
• previous-generation biometric tech
• and antiquated design aesthetic (clunky, huge bezels, poor screen/frame ratio)​
... as a better device.

It happens.
You are correct. These group of people as you know are all over these forums blasting iPhone X and announcing their returning the X to 8 plus. Their threads are becoming so annoying.

The 8 plus and 8 are old technology and design. If you have 7 plus, getting 8 plus is not a real upgrade due to minimal changes in the phone and unchanged design. No biggie. The design itself is 4 years old. Hence, the price reflects this old design and the minimal changes.

The better way to treat these annoying threads is to ignore them completely. Do not read and comment on them.
 
You are correct. These group of people as you know are all over these forums blasting iPhone X and announcing their returning the X to 8 plus. Their threads are becoming so annoying.

The 8 plus and 8 are old technology and design. If you have 7 plus, getting 8 plus is not a real upgrade due to minimal changes in the phone and unchanged design. No biggie. The design itself is 4 years old. Hence, the price reflects this old design and the minimal changes.

The better way to treat these annoying threads is to ignore them completely. Do not read and comment on them.
But here you are commenting despite your annoyance and advice to ignore threads like this.

The 8 series is an old design physically but not internally. Plus getting a fresh battery on new device is a big thing for some so the upgrade can be justified. Also selling your 1 year old phone will see a better return than waiting 2 years in my opinion.
 
You are correct. These group of people as you know are all over these forums blasting iPhone X and announcing their returning the X to 8 plus. Their threads are becoming so annoying.

The 8 plus and 8 are old technology and design. If you have 7 plus, getting 8 plus is not a real upgrade due to minimal changes in the phone and unchanged design. No biggie. The design itself is 4 years old. Hence, the price reflects this old design and the minimal changes.

The better way to treat these annoying threads is to ignore them completely. Do not read and comment on them.


Old technology or not, people paying $1000+ for a phone deserve to be happy with it. I’m still undecided about whether I will keep the X or go to the 8 plus, but if I do switch I won’t feel guilty about it or inferior to those who “could handle the change.” Sure, the 8 and 8 plus may very well be the last of their kind, but that’s no reason not to enjoy them for one more year rather than be forced to adapt to something that hasn’t been perfected yet. We all know the next X will be marginally better than the first version. Some want in on the new tech early and others prefer to wait. Both choices are perfectly acceptable.
 
Not arguing with this, just asking. Why would anyone at Apple ever admit a mistake or failing to do something it set out to do. No one knows the truth except for Apple.

I would think the same thing. Truly if they did fail they would still say this. However, the bought the company that made the Kinect 4 years ago so they were clearly working on this for a while. I’m sure they have a department working on fp under the screen as well. I imagine they run several prototypes for each iPhone release as well. They have to run with contingencies and making sure multiple technologies could be used. As stated a while ago, I imagine if the phone flopped and everybody hated faceid you’d see touchid return. Since that wasn’t the case you can see the rumors heading for the iPad switchover. This is a 900 billion dollar company. They manage risk better than most and would in no way run with a biometric tech that they thought was not ready. Heck, maybe the under the screen tech was meant for the 8.
 
Last night I was comparing my 7+ with x and I find out that the overall is screen size including the ears on the x’s screen is bigger than the screen size of 7+
Glad you can do so much with the ears, on my X they were just chunks of screen that looked stupid using full screen zoom on videos. Not using full screen do your comparison again, and enjoy your X great phone, just not for me. My 8 plus feels dated hardware wise but overall better phone, for me.
 
I have to say, I’m not impressed with the X’s battery life. At all. And my charger doesn’t even work. I used it once and now it only works if I get it twisted just the right way and then don’t breathe near it.
 
I have to say, I’m not impressed with the X’s battery life. At all. And my charger doesn’t even work. I used it once and now it only works if I get it twisted just the right way and then don’t breathe near it.
neither me
 
I just can't see it.

My X next to an 8 makes the 8 look completely dated and the screen laughable.

To each his own I guess.

People giving up on a device after a few days cause they expect to get used to a new design concept right away.

Better screen? The X takes that hands down. Not even an argument to be made

Better keyboard? Selective, I see zero difference

Better battery? Selective

My face id works fine and I can't ever see myself going back to pushing a button.

Its just a superior device to me

Like I said though, to each his own.

My battery life has been stellar


Enjoy it.
 
I just can't see it.

My X next to an 8 makes the 8 look completely dated and the screen laughable.

To each his own I guess.

People giving up on a device after a few days cause they expect to get used to a new design concept right away.

My face id works fine and I can't ever see myself going back to pushing a button.

Its just a superior device to me

Like I said though, to each his own.

My battery life has been stellar


Enjoy it.

are you comparing to plus?
[doublepost=1510355986][/doublepost]8plus has got:

bigger display with real colours
a lot better battery
a lot better keyboard
full status bar
better gestures (i actually loose 3x time to close apps on x)
better price
speed (for some reason 8+ on 11.2 seemed a lot faster than this x)
no mitch and vídeo shown with the right ratio
 
are you comparing to plus?
[doublepost=1510355986][/doublepost]8plus has got:

bigger display with real colours
a lot better battery
a lot better keyboard
full status bar
better gestures (i actually loose 3x time to close apps on x)
better price
speed (for some reason 8+ on 11.2 seemed a lot faster than this x)
no mitch and vídeo shown with the right ratio

Yes but everything your saying is in your opinion.

The only fact out of everything is the display, which the X is completely better. Side by Side, its so obvious.

I'll never get past the wasted space on the top and bottom of the plus. Its a brick in a pocket, in my opinion

I just don't believe someone can keep a phone for a week that is completely different style wise and automatically be adjusted. I've had androids in the past so it was a seamless switch for me. I believe if they stick with the phone, in the end it will be so seamless, that they won't wanna go back to a phone that has basically " looked " the same since the 6. It's just dated to me.

Is the 8 plus a great device, sure.. but saying its better then the X, is subjective.. highly..
 
You are correct. These group of people as you know are all over these forums blasting iPhone X and announcing their returning the X to 8 plus. Their threads are becoming so annoying.

The 8 plus and 8 are old technology and design. If you have 7 plus, getting 8 plus is not a real upgrade due to minimal changes in the phone and unchanged design. No biggie. The design itself is 4 years old. Hence, the price reflects this old design and the minimal changes.

The better way to treat these annoying threads is to ignore them completely. Do not read and comment on them.

If I didn’t know better I would think it was Apples own people trying to bash the X to help get more people the buy 8 and 8 plus stock that’s just sitting on shelves while the X and 7. And 7 plus are moving. Lmao.
 
You are correct. These group of people as you know are all over these forums blasting iPhone X and announcing their returning the X to 8 plus. Their threads are becoming so annoying.

The 8 plus and 8 are old technology and design. If you have 7 plus, getting 8 plus is not a real upgrade due to minimal changes in the phone and unchanged design. No biggie. The design itself is 4 years old. Hence, the price reflects this old design and the minimal changes.

The better way to treat these annoying threads is to ignore them completely. Do not read and comment on them.
Then the X must be old technology too!
 
i feel like more productive with 8+, better keyboard, apps already optimised, bigger screen and better battery, and i was missing a lot my touchid, for me still the best way to unlock iphone until today... so, goodbye X, see you when an x plus will be available

until that time, the plus will be my mobile!
Any proof you actually owned the X OP?????
 
The X is a new design, I have stated this before that it will become old rather sooner than later as any other product before it has. We then one day will say how did “we” ever live with a notch or such a narrow phone or Color shifting or whatever the case may be!
 
These are the reasons I am considering returning my X and getting the 8 plus. I’m very happy with my 7 plus but I do need a better camera for business and better battery life is a huge plus. Can anyone give me some input as to whether the X camera is truly that much superior to the 8 plus? I do take selfies often for business (I sell clothing and cosmetics) but I tend to find that portrait mode gives photos an overedited look. I am still undecided on the whole true color thing. Some photos look good and some appear way over saturated. I despise the screen glare on the OLED display. I am one of those that loves to have the newest thing, even if there are imperfections, but I’m seriously reconsidering this one. The camera is the biggest selling point for me though and I’ve read reviews and such but I’d love input from those of you who have actually used both. Is the X’s camera truly that superior to the 8 plus?

Watch this video. It isn't that much better.

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overall however, X is more advanced IMO. I too struggled with coming from 7 plus but now finally getting used to my new X! I think of it as coming from a Chevy Suburban to a smaller SUV like an Audi Q5 for example, may not fit as many people, or can't go over rocks etc. but its more 'luxury'. I just wonder HOW long it will take apple to release X plus?? I think it will be sooner than most think?

Nothing is more advanced on the X except FaceID and OLED.
 
The X is a new design, I have stated this before that it will become old rather sooner than later as any other product before it has. We then one day will say how did “we” ever live with a notch or such a narrow phone or Color shifting or whatever the case may be!

Exactly, this is the reason I could never do the 8 plus and phone before . I’m already at that stage. Like how could I have been happy carrying such a big phone.
 
People who can't afford the X are insecure and attempting to justify an inferior phone with:
• a smaller battery (capacity and life, as proven by independent tests)
• smaller/lower-quality display (worse pixel density, lower contrast ratio, smaller size, past-gen LCD vs next-gen OLED tech)
• previous-generation biometric tech
• and antiquated design aesthetic (clunky, huge bezels, poor screen/frame ratio)​
... as a better device.

It happens.

Umm what? Anyone who buys an 8 plus can afford the X. The X owners think theirs is the best and it isn't. And your proof of that for posting wrong info.

Again, the X does not have a better battery. The 8 plus kills it in TESTS. Posted again below.
The 8 plus has the larger, more usable, and more accurate display. Pics below.
FaceID is not secure (less secure).

https://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Apple-iPhone-X-Review_id4441/page/4

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https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-x-battery-life,news-26068.html

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I just can't see it.

My X next to an 8 makes the 8 look completely dated and the screen laughable.

To each his own I guess.

People giving up on a device after a few days cause they expect to get used to a new design concept right away.

Better screen? The X takes that hands down. Not even an argument to be made

Better keyboard? Selective, I see zero difference

Better battery? Selective

My face id works fine and I can't ever see myself going back to pushing a button.

Its just a superior device to me

Like I said though, to each his own.

My battery life has been stellar


Enjoy it.

And you are blinded. See the facts above in my previous post.
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Yes but everything your saying is in your opinion.

The only fact out of everything is the display, which the X is completely better. Side by Side, its so obvious.

I'll never get past the wasted space on the top and bottom of the plus. Its a brick in a pocket, in my opinion

I just don't believe someone can keep a phone for a week that is completely different style wise and automatically be adjusted. I've had androids in the past so it was a seamless switch for me. I believe if they stick with the phone, in the end it will be so seamless, that they won't wanna go back to a phone that has basically " looked " the same since the 6. It's just dated to me.

Is the 8 plus a great device, sure.. but saying its better then the X, is subjective.. highly..

No sir, he stated the facts not opinion.
 
Face ID is for sure less secure. My 1 year old baby who looks pretty much exactly like a baby version of me can unlock my phone with her face. None of my other kids can though. But she has multiple times already.
 
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Umm what? Anyone who buys an 8 plus can afford the X. The X owners think theirs is the best and it isn't. And your proof of that for posting wrong info.

Again, the X does not have a better battery. The 8 plus kills it in TESTS. Posted again below.
The 8 plus has the larger, more usable, and more accurate display. Pics below.
FaceID is not secure (less secure).

https://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Apple-iPhone-X-Review_id4441/page/4

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https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-x-battery-life,news-26068.html

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And you are blinded. See the facts above in my previous post.
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No sir, he stated the facts not opinion.


Lol give me a break.

I don’t care what websites say.

I prefer my own real world experience with phones.

If your happy with that 3 year old design and wanna live in the world that believes the screen is better then the X. By all means.

In the end your happy. That’s all that matters

They make the 8 for people that don’t want change. That can’t move on from the past 3 cycle designs. So that’s a plus
 
Lol give me a break.

I don’t care what websites say.

I prefer my own real world experience with phones.

If your happy with that 3 year old design and wanna live in the world that believes the screen is better then the X. By all means.

In the end your happy. That’s all that matters

They make the 8 for people that don’t want change. That can’t move on from the past 3 cycle designs. So that’s a plus

Believe what you want, I posted the facts. Your opinion is not correct and just correcting it. It is better than the X for color accuracy and less issues. Erica Griffin just did the color test on them and said it herself. They make the 8 for people who don't want a Beta product that has tons of issues.

Need I say more?

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/9/16631596/apple-iphone-x-cold-weather-screen-bug-software-update
 
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better gestures (i actually loose 3x time to close apps on x)

Why can't apple apply the way the ipad does swipe up to pull up the control center + switch apps to all IOS devices? Why can't apple give us the option to use ALL of the non home button gestures that are on the X on all IOS devices?

WHY?!
[doublepost=1510363861][/doublepost]Doesn't the X and 8+ have almost identical cameras and processors?
 
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