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Finnish Prime Minister Again 'Blames' Apple for Country's Economic Struggles
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I had and liked Nokia E71, after using my beloved Sony Ericssons K750 and 800. Both never had a chance against iPhone. Mobile browser and email were so much better (as a a number of other features) on iPhone that it was clear that Nokia was doomed already by 2008.
ppffftt haha I've seen it all now! So what proof of this do you have then Mac Rumors? Considering you appear to be re-writing history here, you know seeing as EVERY single innovation, the first iPhone had, bar capacitive multitouch, was already done by Nokia and others, in fact I always find it a big stretch for anyone to attempt to 'claim' Apple 'revolutionised' Mobile phones...!
I remember at the time looking at the N95, then the iPhone, and comparing the feature specs the iPhone was a total joke at it's price point.
Now I'm not saying it's wrong to simply blame your country's financial situation on one American corporation, because it is wrong to do that, but this piece of your article is a hilarious skewed twisted vision of what was in the market place, or perhaps you only looked at what was on the shelf at the time in American only stores?
I felt sorry for Nokia so I bought a Lumia 520 Windows Phone 8.1 from Walmart for $48. It's a fun back up phone, and I like to toss things up when I get sick of using my better-in-every-way iPhone 6 so I pop the SIM into the Lumia just to remind myself not to take my iPhone for granted.
Back when the iPhone first came out I remember there was a phone conference similar to CES going on at the time. I think it was Mobile World in Germany or something.
And someone from I think it was Engadget was able to ask one of the Nokia reps on the show floor what they thought about the new iPhone. This guy wasn't the CEO or anything but he was wearing a suit and was well versed in what Nokia were showing which they considered cutting edge stuff.
He shrugged off the iPhone by saying "It doesn't even have 3G". A similar brush off was done by Steve Ballmer who was the CEO of Microsoft at the time, he laughed, scoffed and then said "$500? On contract? for a phone?" he also said "No keyboard?, it's not good for business users."
Everyone at one time or another back then laughed at the iPhone and many other people laughed at the iPad too. "It's just a big iPod Touch" or "It's just an oversized iPhone" were the big criticisms of the iPad before it actually launched.
What all these examples go to illustrate is that it's not Apple who is the big bad wolf coming in and stealing customers from other companies. They simply made phones and tablets usable. I had Nokia and Windows Phones and I also had a Symbian smart phone before I had an iPhone.
They sucked. And it wasn't because they didn't have the specs the iPhone had. The user interfaces were hard to use, clunky. Some of them had 3G connectivity but you didn't get access to the proper internet. What is the point of having amazing connectivity if you can't do anything with it?
Apple saw this problem and they knew if they got the interface right it would completely change the market, which it did. Other companies failure to innovate on a glaring problem isn't Apple's problem.
And one last thing I wanted to mention, a lot of people try to say that everyone at the time was working on a brand new UI and Apple just got to market first. That's false. If you look at all the work at the time and even up to 2-3 years after the iPhone came out no one was even close to touching the original iPhone. It wasn't really until 2010-2011 that competitors finally got their UI's within the same ball park.
When you stop innovating you're going to lose.
And someone from I think it was Engadget was able to ask one of the Nokia reps on the show floor what they thought about the new iPhone. This guy wasn't the CEO or anything but he was wearing a suit and was well versed in what Nokia were showing which they considered cutting edge stuff.
He shrugged off the iPhone by saying "It doesn't even have 3G". A similar brush off was done by Steve Ballmer who was the CEO of Microsoft at the time, he laughed, scoffed and then said "$500? On contract? for a phone?" he also said "No keyboard?, it's not good for business users."
Everyone at one time or another back then laughed at the iPhone and many other people laughed at the iPad too. "It's just a big iPod Touch" or "It's just an oversized iPhone" were the big criticisms of the iPad before it actually launched.
What all these examples go to illustrate is that it's not Apple who is the big bad wolf coming in and stealing customers from other companies. They simply made phones and tablets usable. I had Nokia and Windows Phones and I also had a Symbian smart phone before I had an iPhone.
They sucked. And it wasn't because they didn't have the specs the iPhone had. The user interfaces were hard to use, clunky. Some of them had 3G connectivity but you didn't get access to the proper internet. What is the point of having amazing connectivity if you can't do anything with it?
Apple saw this problem and they knew if they got the interface right it would completely change the market, which it did. Other companies failure to innovate on a glaring problem isn't Apple's problem.
And one last thing I wanted to mention, a lot of people try to say that everyone at the time was working on a brand new UI and Apple just got to market first. That's false. If you look at all the work at the time and even up to 2-3 years after the iPhone came out no one was even close to touching the original iPhone. It wasn't really until 2010-2011 that competitors finally got their UI's within the same ball park.
When you stop innovating you're going to lose.
Yep, it's marketed as an AT&T GoPhone, but in reality it will work with any standard AT&T plan, just put in your SIM. Pretty cool, right?
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However, the SIM on the Lumia is a little bigger, it takes a micro-sim. But you can just get a SIM adapter so you can use the nano-sim from your iPhone, they're dirt cheap.
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I'm afraid that tablets have done NOTHING what so ever to stop that! Around 36 football fields worth of forests are gone every minute, it's estimated around 15% of the entire planet's greenhouse gas emissions are from deforestation because all those trees soak the carbon up...
So it's good Finland's paper industry has shrunk, but I doubt the rainforests being cut up will ever stop.
Sorry, went all eco on you there
I borrowed an iPhone from a friend that had a cold. Now, I have the cold.
Apple iPhones give you the common cold.
Apple iPhones give you the common cold
.". . . the iPhone knocked out Nokia and the iPad knocked out the forestry" hardly blaming. Why does MacRumors regularly post click-bate, argument inspiring articles on its Web page? Come on MR, isn't it about time you grow up?
I thought this article was entirely too "pro-Apple." To state that Apple was in no way responsible for the decline in either field (with no supporting facts or figures) is just poor journalism in my opinion.
Because it gets them all $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, why else do you think they tend to leave any Samsung articles on the front page at top for what seems longer than other story's? Because those stories get hundreds of comments which means ad revenue.
Mac Rumors is in it to make money at the end of the day, no doubt Arn etc likes to have a roof over their heads and feed their family's. Which can be a tough thing to do running a website.
I am certain he was trying to be funny. I'm equally certain that the reason my family has a variety of iPhone, and Samsung, LG, and Motorola Android phones but, no longer, any Nokia phones, is software. Including, UI/ergonomics. The last time someone in the family owned a Nokia medium-smart-phone, they got so frustrated by the obtuse key sequences required to do simple things that they traded it in. It is too bad. The Nokia phones I used were definitely more rugged than most other phones.
If there is one thing that Apple has taught the world, it is the overriding importance of the user interface. Nokia was too late in understanding that.
Exactly, as a prime minister, he is suppose to lead them, which means, he suppose to see things far ahead and manoeuvre his country accordingly.
Yeah, the days when almost every European had a Nokia in their pocket or purse are long gone. I remember ten years ago (2004) most of my relatives in Germany & Denmark had a Nokia (only one had a Samsung phone). I just came back 5 days ago from a trip to Germany, Switzerland and Denmark. It was my first trip to Europe in ten years. My relatives had mostly iPhones and Samsung Galaxy phones. One had a HTC and one had a Sony. I only saw one Nokia with one of my older relatives.
Nokia had at least 3 major missteps. First, they didn't offer clam-shell phones in the late 90s. They lost the North American market. A few years later they missed the smartphone boat when they bet on two wrong horses, first Symbian then Windows. Now their home market, Europe, is gone and they're struggling.
Nokia had at least 3 major missteps. First, they didn't offer clam-shell phones in the late 90s. They lost the North American market. A few years later they missed the smartphone boat when they bet on two wrong horses, first Symbian then Windows. Now their home market, Europe, is gone and they're struggling.
I guess we should blame Ford for the assembly production line of cars. Boeing for the assembly line of airplanes.
We should also blame AT&T and Verizon for making it harder for people like me to start a cellular phone company.
I guess we should blame Comcast and TWC for hurting the radio industry. Blame Netflix for hurting sales of movie rentals and such like Blockbuster.
Lets just start throwing out blames instead of adapting to changes in technology and growing from it.
We should also blame AT&T and Verizon for making it harder for people like me to start a cellular phone company.
I guess we should blame Comcast and TWC for hurting the radio industry. Blame Netflix for hurting sales of movie rentals and such like Blockbuster.
Lets just start throwing out blames instead of adapting to changes in technology and growing from it.