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Fire on Plane Caused by Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7

Tycho24 said:
No.
Let's not.
Let's have a logic based discussion about our opinions. (The purpose of this forum!)<snip>. Period.
Undeniable FACT.
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Perhaps I am wrong, but tone of your post(s), and the closure of your last, indicate to me that you're interested in an argument, more than a logical discussion.

However, in the spirit of the forum, I will lay out my thought process.

Batteries store energy, it can be discharged in a contorted method, or in a volitile method. Despite having fuses or internal breakers on logic boards, there are still plenty of methods to short the contacts, or, damage the thin membranes separating the cells. The same human intelligence that is involved in creating these devices, can also be applied to getting them to fail. In the industry, such practice can be used to trigger a warranty replacement, or in more extreme cases, insurance fraud. It wouldn't be that difficult to disassemble a replacement note 7, and trigger some type of cascade failure within the battery cells. I have witnessed a few of these methods in the form of tests in lab environments. Those were used to outline some of these methods for investigators to learn, and, brainstorm on better methods for discovering them.

Do I feel that every fire fits this criteria, absolutely not! And despite my mod status here, I tend to avoid judging people in life. That said, I do, sometimes have personal suspicions and the story behind this note 7 fire is off putting to me for some reason.

Perhaps this case is truly is due to bad manufacturing, or other accidental factors. Perhaps my suspicions are wrong, but, like you, I am entitled to my opinion on the subject, and I ask that you respect that, like I do yours.
 
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Samsung phones going Thermonuclear.

It's Steve Jobs casting voodoo on Samsung from the Beyond.
 
linuxcooldude said:
Rather Its a bad habit that will eventually cause many phones to fail or wear out prematurely.

I don't think your going to convince me the primary use of a smart phone is to sit on it. Its not like its a seat cushion. Heavy weight over extended period of time can take its toll.

I don't sit on my expensive electronic products and surprisingly they can last a long time if you take care of them.
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I have never even put mine in my back pocket, and I see so many people with their giant phone/case sticking halfway out of their back pocket it's crazy. I guess that's just the trend though, bigger phones need bigger pockets.

I do agree that the stainless steel of the iPhone 4 gave it the "premium" feel that people loved. Felt super strong...until you dropped it.
 
H2SO4 said:
LOL, tumble driers have done that too and guess what. Those companies are still in business.
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Lol, tumble DRYERS are designed to function at very high heat, it's sort of what they do....phones on the other hand, not so much. Terrible comparison.
 
tdiaz said:
Samsung phones going Thermonuclear.

It's Steve Jobs casting voodoo on Samsung from the Beyond.
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Right. do you really think if Steve Jobs was still alive..he will recommend you to buy an iPhone 7 over a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge? if you think that? than you don't know Steve Jobs at all!

You probably also think? the Steve Jobs movie was accurate
 
You know we can argue about features, make fun of the obsession for thinner devices, and have our respective heart attacks over the lack of headphone jacks...but the one feature I really rely on in my phone is that it does not explode.
 
840quadra said:
Perhaps I am wrong, but tone of your post(s), and the closure of your last, indicate to me that you're interested in an argument, more than a logical discussion.

However, in the spirit of the forum, I will lay out my thought process.

Batteries store energy, it can be discharged in a contorted method, or in a volitile method. Despite having fuses or internal breakers on logic boards, there are still plenty of methods to short the contacts, or, damage the thin membranes separating the cells. The same human intelligence that is involved in creating these devices, can also be applied to getting them to fail. In the industry, such practice can be used to trigger a warranty replacement, or in more extreme cases, insurance fraud. It wouldn't be that difficult to disassemble a replacement note 7, and trigger some type of cascade failure within the battery cells. I have witnessed a few of these methods in the form of tests in lab environments. Those were used to outline some of these methods for investigators to learn, and, brainstorm on better methods for discovering them.

Do I feel that every fire fits this criteria, absolutely not! And despite my mod status here, I tend to avoid judging people in life. That said, I do, sometimes have personal suspicions and the story behind this note 7 fire is off putting to me for some reason.

Perhaps this case is truly is due to bad manufacturing, or other accidental factors. Perhaps my suspicions are wrong, but, like you, I am entitled to my opinion on the subject, and I ask that you respect that, like I do yours.
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What do think that is making that news story suspect of being fraudulent? Obviously an investigation will be conducted to the exact extent of the cause. So far it seems plausible as far as the indications of being a replacement phone.
 
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Feenician said:
You appear confused in multiple regards. a) The iPhone 8 is conjecture b) the oled panels aren't causing the fires.
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I agree, I was trying to make a point to the person I replied..to make him understand how ridiculous is sounds! washing machines doesn't have batteries
 
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"Interesting" that these things keep "happening" to Americans and, in this case, an American airline.

Shamed be he who thinks evil of it.
 
My friend upgraded his contract the other week and went for the Samsung J3 2016.

Less than two weeks later and he's had to send the phone back to his carrier because the LCD panel has cracked and he's been careful.

From what he's been told there's a certain batch which are faulty.

Whilst no manufacturer can guarantee their devices from developing faults and defects (in fact I've had issues with an iPhone 4S once) I do find it somewhat concerning that the rush to release as many handsets into the world as possible is leading to a decline in quality control.

And that's not just aimed at Samsung.
 
linuxcooldude said:
What do think that is making that news story suspect of being fraudulent? Obviously an investigation will be conducted to the exact extent of the cause. So far it seems plausible as far as the indications of being a replacement phone.
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At the time I originally read the message on the verge ( I follow on twitter) there were no notes of it having been handed off to authorities, nor that Samsung had responded to investigate. My reaction and thoughts were based on those details, however it is nice to see more details posted on their site to update the story ( doesn't look like our MR editors incorporated the new details yet).

At the end of the day, I hope my suspicions are wrong. Recent personal experiences have indeed made me a bit jaded, which is never good!
 
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H2SO4 said:
No it won’t, don't be ridiculous. People have short memories and smaller wallets than they would like. If price and circumstance suits them they will very likely change anything - not just their phone.
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I think you may have meant that people have short attention spans. Human memory can last for quite a while, especially for those impacted by this issue. To think otherwise is absurd and ignorant.

I don't think this issue will kill Samsung as a company, but it certainly won't help their stock price.
 
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