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Fire on Plane Caused by Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7

Feenician said:
Comedy gold :rolleyes:
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To someone ignorant it doesn't make sense. It makes about as much sense as all those returning the iPhone 7 for hissing, piss yellow display, springboard crashes, non-focusing camera, iOS lag, etc. for an Android and having to repurchase paid apps when they could go with the iPhone 6S which makes more sense.
 
mi7chy said:
To someone ignorant it doesn't make sense. It makes about as much sense as all those returning the iPhone 7 for hissing, piss yellow display, springboard crashes, non-focusing camera, iOS lag, etc. for an Android when they could go with the iPhone 6S which makes more sense.
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lol they don't even take you seriously in the alternative devices section
 
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mi7chy said:
To someone ignorant it doesn't make sense. It makes about as much sense as all those returning the iPhone 7 for hissing, piss yellow display, springboard crashes, non-focusing camera, iOS lag, etc. for an Android and having to repurchase paid apps when they could go with the iPhone 6S which makes more sense.
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At least those issues wont cause bodily injury or set your jeep on fire.
 
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satchmo said:
I agree somewhat. Yes, the brand is tarnished. And trust is a huge factor when it comes to brand loyalty.

But, remember, Samsung sells millions of phones. While we're hearing of issues weekly, I'm guessing the majority are happily using their Note7 without issues.

Look at Antennagate or Bendgate. Many stories of iPhone 6's bending. But the majority including myself, have had no problems what so ever. The Apple brand is as strong as ever.
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"Antennagate" and "bendgate" didn't burn vehicles or houses down or worse severely burn people. Apples and oranges.
 
linuxcooldude said:
At least those issues wont cause bodily injury or set your jeep on fire.
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Fire department determined the phone wasn't the cause.

All lithium batteries can potentially fail. Better to move to a different battery technology like metallic sodium that isn't flammable.

http://www.nbc12.com/story/33324416/womans-iphone-explodes-near-her-one-year-old-son

http://abc13.com/news/students-iphone-explodes-in-his-back-pocket-catches-fire-/1535128/

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-iPhone-6s-catches-on-fire_id86109

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/5-on-your-side/iphone-explodes-in-st-peters-mans-pocket/265410117

http://www.pressherald.com/2014/01/31/kennebunk_student_s_cellphone_catches_fire_in_pocket_/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/01/newser-iphone-fire/5101833/

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...Phone-Caught-Fire-In-My-Pocket-303150061.html

http://www.khou.com/news/local/man-describes-how-iphone-6s-catches-fire-while-charging/99231628

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...-after-iphone-catches-fire-mid-flight-n543516

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/66037216-story

http://www.ejinsight.com/20150706-tai-wai-womans-iphone-6-plus-explodes-while-being-charged/

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/1648947-story

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/02/exploding-iphone-leaves-man-with-third-degree-burns/

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/54te00/running_a_little_hot/
 
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So I read somewhere that the fault of the first recalled Note 7s was the battery contacts shorting out at the edge of the cell. This means it could short out when even turned off. Nope, does not need to be in use or charging to catch fire.

Knowing this scared the B'Jesus out of me last week. I was flying and listened to staff in airports and on planes in three countries ask people to just turn off their Note 7s.

Time to ban them outright if the fix doesn't fix.
 
The FTC needs to immediately halt sales of the Note 7. This device is a public safety hazard and seems to have some fundamental flaw with the battery. Imagine if this had caught on fire when they were in the air, or if he had slipped it into the seatback pocket and then the whole seat went up in flames. This could have become a very serious situation.
 
I've only scanned a few pages of this thread so don't know if this has been mentioned, but considering how skittish the airline industry can be - there's still restrictions in place from 2001 that were overkill even then - does anyone else think that if there's even a few more incidents there'll be a move to ban devices with lithium-ion batteries from all flights? Sounds a drastic step but it also sounds like something the industry would do. Not just Samsung devices, but all devices. Just saying think about that before taking the ride out of Samsung for this. If there's a knee jerk reaction everyone could be affected.
 
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Sharkey311 said:
"Antennagate" and "bendgate" didn't burn vehicles or houses down or worse severely burn people. Apples and oranges.
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it seems that you ignoring the exploding iPhones?
Well atleast Samsung and Toshiba were the only ones to admit they have faulty baterries, because that's what innovative companies do!
Accidents happens, but as long it's not on purpose! costumers have no problem with that, however I can't speak the same for bendgate or touch disease
 
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GrumpyTrucker said:
I've only scanned a few pages of this thread so don't know if this has been mentioned, but considering how skittish the airline industry can be - there's still restrictions in place from 2001 that were overkill even then - does anyone else think that if there's even a few more incidents there'll be a move to ban devices with lithium-ion batteries from all flights? Sounds a drastic step but it also sounds like something the industry would do. Not just Samsung devices, but all devices. Just sayin honk about that before taking the ride out of Samsung for this. If there's a knee jerk reaction everyone could be affected.
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Extremely unlikely. They're fundamental to modern life. Much more likely they'll treat it as what it is, a Samsung Note 7 issue.
 
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I think it's partially a cultural thing. They have a tendency to cut corners, cheat and over promise and under-deliver.

The latest example of that is with this CNN underwater challenge in a pool between an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7. Even though the Galaxy has been shipping for a while (giving them time to correct/improve manufacturing) and has a higher IP rating, it started malfunctioning while the iPhone came out unscathed.
 
kycophpd said:
The Feds have begun an investigation per my local news (I'm in Louisville). I have the feeling this may be the start of a real recall of the Note that results with it being completely removed from market.

http://www.wave3.com/story/33325008/feds-launching-investigation-into-galaxy-note-7-fire-at-sdf
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If that phone really was a post-exchange one, if it really was a Note 7 and if the fire can't be attributed to an el-cheapo charger or a third party USB-C cable etc. Then I believe that wasn't only it for the Note7, that was it for Samsung in the North American market.
 
Karma*Police said:
I think it's partially a cultural thing. They have a tendency to cut corners, cheat and over promise and under-deliver.

The latest example of that is with this CNN underwater challenge in a pool between an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7. Even though the Galaxy has been shipping for a while (giving them time to correct/improve manufacturing) and has a higher IP rating, it started malfunctioning while the iPhone came out unscathed.
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But in all fairness: testing ONE phone against ONE other phone is anecdotal at best. Who knows what the water seal of that particular S7 had been exposed to before the test. A friend of mine has been using his S7 EDGE in the pool repeatedly and it works as advertised.
 
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GrumpyTrucker said:
I've only scanned a few pages of this thread so don't know if this has been mentioned, but considering how skittish the airline industry can be - there's still restrictions in place from 2001 that were overkill even then - does anyone else think that if there's even a few more incidents there'll be a move to ban devices with lithium-ion batteries from all flights? Sounds a drastic step but it also sounds like something the industry would do. Not just Samsung devices, but all devices. Just sayin honk about that before taking the ride out of Samsung for this. If there's a knee jerk reaction everyone could be affected.
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Regardless of phone brand all lithium batteries can potentially fail but I doubt FAA would band all devices but probably require passengers to store their phone powered off in a LiPo bag.

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Feenician said:
Nobody is "ignoring" them. They're regarding them as what they are, rare incidences of failures in a battery technology that has inherent risks,
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Which this incident could turn out to be as well - let's wait until the investigation has been completed.
 
Is this the rare but media amplified shark attack or the nail in the Note 7 coffin? I think the official jury is still out deliberating, but the PR jury is going to hang Samsung. All I know is that I hope I'm not a plane with a Note 7.
 
btrach144 said:
To all below:

1: You missed the joke. I referenced washing machines for this purpose.
2: You don't all need to quote the same article and blow up my inbox
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Yea I missed it, but I did still get a few likes along the way :p
 
mi7chy said:
Fire department determined the phone wasn't the cause.

All lithium batteries can potentially fail. Better to move to a different battery technology like metallic sodium that isn't flammable.

http://www.nbc12.com/story/33324416/womans-iphone-explodes-near-her-one-year-old-son

http://abc13.com/news/students-iphone-explodes-in-his-back-pocket-catches-fire-/1535128/

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-iPhone-6s-catches-on-fire_id86109

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/5-on-your-side/iphone-explodes-in-st-peters-mans-pocket/265410117

http://www.pressherald.com/2014/01/31/kennebunk_student_s_cellphone_catches_fire_in_pocket_/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/01/newser-iphone-fire/5101833/

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...Phone-Caught-Fire-In-My-Pocket-303150061.html

http://www.khou.com/news/local/man-describes-how-iphone-6s-catches-fire-while-charging/99231628

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...-after-iphone-catches-fire-mid-flight-n543516

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/66037216-story

http://www.ejinsight.com/20150706-tai-wai-womans-iphone-6-plus-explodes-while-being-charged/

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/1648947-story

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/02/exploding-iphone-leaves-man-with-third-degree-burns/

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/54te00/running_a_little_hot/
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Obviously you just copy/pasted stories from google without reading them. After just reading the very first story you supplied: one case she sat on her iPhone in her pocket that caused physical damage, probably the battery. Thats not a defect, but user carelessness.

A lot can be contributed to phones being in pockets being sat upon, which seems to be quite a few of them.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/01/newser-iphone-fire/5101833/
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Another story you supplied:

"It's a lithium battery, it's a situation through the bending of the phone, it popped the lithium battery which caused the burning," he said.
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