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If these are scammers, they are maliciously causing a huge problem for us Note 7 owners and I would like to punch them in the nose...after I get a step stool (I am a bit short) ;)

Seriously, my husband and I have great phones we can't use on public transportation. I'm not sure we will even be able to carry them on flights while switched off. I was looking forward to trying their camera out on photos of the views out of the windows. There was a lot of fun I was looking forward to having with them on my annual school hiking trip out west. My husband uses his for business. The extra nice media features would have made business travel more pleasant for him and he said the Note 7 worked better than his iPhone for some kind of conferencing software his company uses, as well. He was looking forward to using this phone for business travel.

We aren't sure our devices will receive any carrier or manufacturer support going forward. So we have to contemplate replacing them with phones we don't like quite as much because of all that, even if there is no safety hazard. I can only hope that the American man is telling the truth, oddly enough, because going through all of this uncertainty over a deception, would be :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I don't even have words for how angry I would be at a stranger for playing people like that. So I hope he is sincere.

I don't blame him for getting an iPhone but I do think the way that fact was slipped to us was a stylistic hit by The Verge, which is not without bias.
 
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Sadly another report coming out of Taiwan of a young lady whose replacement Note 7 began burning up in her back pocket.

http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/local/20161008/964168

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English translation http://focustaiwan.tw/news/asoc/201610080009.aspx

"Taipei, Oct. 8 (CNA) A replacement model of the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphone exploded in Taiwan on Friday while its user was walking her dog in a park, local newspaper Apple Daily reported on Saturday.

According to the report, a 26-year-old woman surnamed Lai was walking her dog in a park in Taipei when she realized smoke was spewing from her replacement Note 7, which Lai said she had picked up just 10 days ago.

Lai said she quickly pulled the phone from her jeans pocket and threw it on the ground, then waited until the smoke cleared before picking the phone up and taking it back to her workplace in her phone case, the report said.

Apple Daily cited the woman as saying that she heard a "bang" before feeling heat on her buttocks and seeing a lot of white smoke billowing from the phone after taking it out of her pocket.

The woman said she purchased a Galaxy Note 7 in August this year, and exchanged the phone for a replacement model on Sept. 27 after seeing TV reports suggesting that the Note 7 could explode, according to the article.

In a statement issued Saturday, Samsung Taiwan said it was trying to reach the customer and hoped to recall the product and further clarify the cause of the incident.

It said it could not confirm if the phone was a replacement model without looking into the matter.

The incident came just two days after an alleged replacement model of the Note 7 began smoking aboard a Southwest Airlines in the United States on Wednesday, leading the airline to evacuate passengers on the plane.

Taiwan's Consumers' Foundation urged Samsung Taiwan on Saturday to suspend all sales and replacements of the new Galaxy Note 7, because continuing to distribute the model would be like "sending bombs to consumers."

(By Christie Chen and Yang Shu-min)"


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Whether after investigation this turns out to be legit or not, the continued plague of these reports can only serve to fuse the Note 7 with the stigma/label of the "burning up phone" further into peoples conscience.
 
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Sadly another report coming out of Taiwan of a young lady whose replacement Note 7 began burning up in her back pocket.

http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/local/20161008/964168

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English translation http://focustaiwan.tw/news/asoc/201610080009.aspx




Whether after investigation this turns out to be legit or not, the continued plague of these reports can only serve to fuse the Note 7 with the stigma/label of the "burning up phone" further into peoples conscience.
I would rather this be legit than think such a young lady could be a lying fink. On another note, pardon the pun,if I had a figure that nice, I would be afraid to stick phones in my back pocket for fear of melting them with my hot looks. There, now a grumpy old middle aged mom has said it for all of you young guys afraid of being called sexist pigs for forgetting what the picture is supposed to be about. ;)
 
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Let's be honest, there are pretty much only two manufacturers of smartphones that sell in volume and in most people's conscience it's either "Galaxy" or "iPhone", Samsung or Apple.

How long can you live your modern life or do your modern job without not having a smartphone on hand being a problem? Having just been burned (semi-literally) does it really require a conspiracy theory here? There's a disturbing lack of self consciousness to imagine it does.

Nice spin with a heavy dose of conspiracy lol.
If he'd bought a HTC he would be totally innocent in his choices I'm sure lol.


You can laugh but fact remains people ARE trying to profit from this

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Alle...o-spend-extra-cash-on-3rd-party-tests_id86136

The guy actually used some sort of instrument to subject the phone to a high amount of physical stress enough to pierce the back of the case.Its not unheard of anyway.

Now as far as this Green fellow goes

1)He switched from a Note 7 which has a 5.7 OLED to a 4.7 LCD.
2)He bought the iPhone the same day and put no consideration to the fact that he would need to repurchase all those apps he had

Now I am not saying he couldnt have instantly reached this decision but to buy an iPhone immediately after the incident without thinking things through makes me feel something is fishy about this whole incident.I keep thinking about switching to Android full time yet the fact that all those IAP and other purchases need to be repurchased pull me back.Switching to an HTC is believable as its not exactly the one to gain by Samsung's loss not to mention its the same ecosystem

In addition I just REFUSE to believe one of the most valuable companies of all time made the same mistake twice.If these incidents turn out to be real and the replacement units need to be recalled,its all over for Samsung.Done.Cooked.

Probably got the device he REALLY wanted from the beginning.
This makes total sense.The guy spent as much as an iPhone on an Note 7 but in reality he really wanted an iPhone 7 so this well informed consumer spent money on something he didnt prefer.
 
You can laugh but fact remains people ARE trying to profit from this

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Alle...o-spend-extra-cash-on-3rd-party-tests_id86136

The guy actually used some sort of instrument to subject the phone to a high amount of physical stress enough to pierce the back of the case.Its not unheard of anyway.

Now as far as this Green fellow goes

1)He switched from a Note 7 which has a 5.7 OLED to a 4.7 LCD.
2)He bought the iPhone the same day and put no consideration to the fact that he would need to repurchase all those apps he had

Now I am not saying he couldnt have instantly reached this decision but to buy an iPhone immediately after the incident without thinking things through makes me feel something is fishy about this whole incident.I keep thinking about switching to Android full time yet the fact that all those IAP and other purchases need to be repurchased pull me back.Switching to an HTC is believable as its not exactly the one to gain by Samsung's loss not to mention its the same ecosystem

In addition I just REFUSE to believe one of the most valuable companies of all time made the same mistake twice.If these incidents turn out to be real and the replacement units need to be recalled,its all over for Samsung.Done.Cooked.


This makes total sense.The guy spent as much as an iPhone on an Note 7 but in reality he really wanted an iPhone 7 so this well informed consumer spent money on something he didnt prefer.

What he did makes sense to me. You are traveling and need a phone right away. so you have to go purchase one immediately for communication for work and family. And also, he probably couldn't buy a Note 7 as some stores aren't selling them yet, and he didn't like the S7 series or the other Android models, so he had to go to a iPhone. Maybe not by choice.
 
You can laugh but fact remains people ARE trying to profit from this

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Alle...o-spend-extra-cash-on-3rd-party-tests_id86136

The guy actually used some sort of instrument to subject the phone to a high amount of physical stress enough to pierce the back of the case.Its not unheard of anyway.

Now as far as this Green fellow goes

1)He switched from a Note 7 which has a 5.7 OLED to a 4.7 LCD.
2)He bought the iPhone the same day and put no consideration to the fact that he would need to repurchase all those apps he had

Now I am not saying he couldnt have instantly reached this decision but to buy an iPhone immediately after the incident without thinking things through makes me feel something is fishy about this whole incident.I keep thinking about switching to Android full time yet the fact that all those IAP and other purchases need to be repurchased pull me back.Switching to an HTC is believable as its not exactly the one to gain by Samsung's loss not to mention its the same ecosystem

In addition I just REFUSE to believe one of the most valuable companies of all time made the same mistake twice.If these incidents turn out to be real and the replacement units need to be recalled,its all over for Samsung.Done.Cooked.

There are 15 companies ahead of Samsung, just fyi. The damage, such as it is, has already been done. Really, the pink. Switching to an HTC is believeable, but not am iphone. Makes total sense by your own posted logic.:rolleyes: You don't think that people who don't inhabit MR where minutia is discussed and dissected, might prefer and iphone to a Note 7?

This makes total sense.The guy spent as much as an iPhone on an Note 7 but in reality he really wanted an iPhone 7 so this well informed consumer spent money on something he didnt prefer.

You yourself are bemoaning the unpredictability of people, so why the doubt? An as was said above maybe there was no choice and this person is jumping ship back to Samsung at the earliest possible moment. You never know, but let's get our daily exercise, leaping to conclusions.:D
 
snip...1)He switched from a Note 7 which has a 5.7 OLED to a 4.7 LCD.
Just to throw in another possibility, maybe they didn't have a iPhone + model in the color he wanted? Maybe color was the deciding factor?
Anything can be assumed when you don't know the person or their thought process.
 
Just to throw in another possibility, maybe they didn't have a iPhone + model in the color he wanted? Maybe color was the deciding factor?
Anything can be assumed when you don't know the person or their thought process.

As well iPhone 7+s are still extremely difficult to find.
 
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Just to throw in another possibility, maybe they didn't have a iPhone + model in the color he wanted? Maybe color was the deciding factor?
Anything can be assumed when you don't know the person or their thought process.

As well iPhone 7+s are still extremely difficult to find.

I didnt think about this.Yes that could be the case
 
The Samsung Distortion Field is strong this week :) Another Apple trick they've learnt. Soon this bursting into flames will be a "feature"
 
Not really. I still plan on buying a S8 when they are released. I also currently own two S7 Edge phones and a Note 5 as well as a Note 4 and a Note Edge. This Note 7 nonsense has;t changed my opinion of Samsung at all.

Oh! well then as long as your opinion hasn't changed then the Samsung brand will be fine. Shut the thread down nothing to see here folks :D
 
There are 15 companies ahead of Samsung, just fyi. The damage, such as it is, has already been done. Really, the pink. Switching to an HTC is believeable, but not am iphone. Makes total sense by your own posted logic.:rolleyes: You don't think that people who don't inhabit MR where minutia is discussed and dissected, might prefer and iphone to a Note 7?



You yourself are bemoaning the unpredictability of people, so why the doubt? An as was said above maybe there was no choice and this person is jumping ship back to Samsung at the earliest possible moment. You never know, but let's get our daily exercise, leaping to conclusions.:D

If you think Samsung as a brand is gonna die you really are reaching.its still one of the most valuable companies and being on 16 rank worldwide is no small feat

Samsung is going to come back strong from this.This is as I keep saying a bump in the road.They will come back stronger than ever.Better mock them while you can
 
If you think Samsung as a brand is gonna die you really are reaching.its still one of the most valuable companies and being on 16 rank worldwide is no small feat

Samsung is going to come back strong from this.This is as I keep saying a bump in the road.They will come back stronger than ever.Better mock them while you can
I'm not sure what discussion is being had. The one I thought was being discussed was "fire on plane caused by replacement galaxy note 7". The remainder is hyperbole. Nobody knows how Samsung is going to fare in the future. (Adding some hyperbole of what has been said of Apple and using that exact logic therein; no company is immune, look at blackberry. When that has been said of Apple seems ridiculous on the surface right?)
 
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Yeah, could be, at least in the US.

Might depend on what he was threatening to do. Also the CPSC would likely want him to give up the phone for closer analysis.
He was threatening to sue them. With lung damage from smoke inhalation he has a hefty case. By giving up the phone he no longer has any physical evidence. If I were him, I would let my lawyer handle it from here. Who knows what future problems inhaling toxic smoke may prove to exhibit.

Samsung through sales records, serial number, should already have ample evidence if this person purchased/received a new phone. What remains to be proven is if the phone that burned is that same phone and if there is any evidence of tampering. At this point an independent certified forensics lab needs to do the investigation, not Samsung as they will be the defendant.

Evidence tends to get lost in cases such as these when returned to the manufacturer.
 
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Especially as cold weather sets in. :rolleyes:

Heh. Actually, speaking of cold weather, I think the government (or Samsung!) should launch a set of public educational ads about lithium batteries in general and their regular failure causes.

For example, pressure. Many phone fires over the years appear related to keeping the device in a rear pocket. Sitting on one is just a bad idea. It might not fail right away, but it can start the failure process.

Accidental crushing is another, with one airline going so far as to include instruction in its safety briefing to not move your seat back if you lose your phone/tablet in the crack.

Temperature can also be a factor in lithium cell breakdowns. Charging a very hot OR very cold device can cause a failure to start.
 
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Heh. Actually, speaking of cold weather, I think the government (or Samsung!) should launch a set of public educational ads about lithium batteries and their failure causes.

For example, pressure. The highest number of Apple/Samsung/etc phone fires appear related to keeping the device in a rear pocket. Sitting on one is just a bad idea.

Accidental crushing is another, with one airline going so far as to include instruction in its safety briefing to not move your seat back if you lose your phone/tablet in the crack.

Temperature can also be a factor in lithium cell breakdowns. Charging a very hot OR very cold device can cause a failure to start.
Battery University has great info. Also worth checking out the latest university R&D done to improve both safety and charge capacity on LI-Ion batteries by adding some additional element to prevent dendrite formation and also reducing particle size such that faster charging is available and elimination of cascading failure.

Quite frankly I am surprised there have not been more battery failures and cascading short circuit fires as everything we use these days has these potential bombs inside them. Even backup batteries in aircraft were catching fire a year or two back.

The improved chemistry LI-Ion batteries need to get into the manufacturing stream right quick. Cost for retooling be damned.
 
I'm done. I decided to send my Note 7 back. Packed it up to take to AT&T shortly once they open. Sadly I only have a Microsoft Lumnia 640 go phone I can use for the time being...which sucks!
 
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