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So, 2.5 times as fast. 3.6 times as fast in multi-core.
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So, 2.5 times as fast. 3.6 times as fast in multi-core.
Either you’re ignorant of the subject or you’re just trolling. Or both 🤷♂️
The A14 core will be for all of the newer iPad Pros (sans 2020 iPad) and non-Pro MacBooks. I predict the multithreaded A15-class cores will hit the MBPs and Desktop Macs at the second half next year. The number of GPU, CPU and Neural cores of the same A-class will be the defining distinction between lines and models.
The first turbo switch I remember were on some Samsung PC clones with an 80286. Probably around 1988, it was 6MHz normal speed and 8MHz turbo.
The 8MHz turbo would sometimes cause crashes with certain programs—looking at you MS Flight Simulator 2—so we’d have to switch it to 6 sometimes. I don’t think it could be switched on the fly; iirc, you had to reboot it.
(We ran Digital Research’s GEM OS at the time, a Mac-like GUI that ran on top of MS-DOS. Mostly we used GEM Draw and Xerox’s Ventura Publisher, a surprisingly powerful WYSIWYG desktop publishing program.)
I know little about hardware, but these chips have great thermals. Can't you fit 2 or more of these inside the 16" Macbook and the even larger iMacs bodies? (edit typos)
Nice progress. However I'm wondering how Apple will do with GPU because ati 5600 gives impressive performance for the macbook pro 16". Can Apple do better than that? I hope so...
the thing is the Snapdragon 865 doesn’t run at 1.8GHz in single core. The high performance core in the Snapdragon 865 runs at 2.8GHz. It’s the low power cores that run at 1.8GHz.
You can, but even in the best-case scenario, you wouldn't get twice the performance that way.
Will Apple make chips on a 16-inch MacBook that are similar to this but feature more cores? Yeah, probably.
Agreed. Apple showed their hand at chip design skills when they were the first to market with a 64 bit chip with the iPhone 5s.
All these new chips will probably be great. Apple has gotten us used to subpar graphics performance already.
Only thing that will be terrible is the amount of non-sanctioned software not actively developed but still working great on x86 Macs that we will lose. Add to that the apps that will not be developed for lack of easily using the same code base on different platforms...
I am fascinated by the technology but sceptical of changes to the wider Mac ecosystem. Apple is trying to outperform at the cost of making the island we live on much smaller (incidentally, this is the same metaphor that also characterises nationalism: make smaller to better control it/make more efficient)...
Only thing that will be terrible is the amount of non-sanctioned software not actively developed but still working great on x86 Macs that we will lose. Add to that the apps that will not be developed for lack of easily using the same code base on different platforms...
I am fascinated by the technology but sceptical of changes to the wider Mac ecosystem. Apple is trying to outperform at the cost of making the island we live on much smaller (incidentally, this is the same metaphor that also characterises nationalism: make smaller to better control it/make more efficient)...
Agreed, iOs must catch up equally with raw speed and user experience as well.
Wow. I follow very closely the bits of Apple that I'm interested in, iPhone launches every year, in the iPad world I pretty much focus on the iPad Pros now, and I've recently Apple Watch to my follow-closely list. Because the first reveal of A14 was during the iPad Air announcement I completely missed the release of the next generation of the A-Series this year and hadn't even realised it was in the new iPad Air.
I've just visited a few sites to catch up on what I missed and it looks good and on a new process too with a 40% increase in transistor count. In contradiction to some of the verging-on-trolling from some here I'm amazed that Apple can continue to deliver these sort of percentage performance increases year after year after year within presumably similar or lower thermal and power envelopes to previous generations, in fact I see speculation in a recent Anandtech article that the A14 might be delivering its performance gains within a more conservative power envelope than A13 and A12 (https://www.anandtech.com/show/1608...-a14-soc-meagre-upgrades-or-less-power-hungry).
On the theory that A14 might have reduced power/thermal envelopes that Anandtech article says at the end by way of a counter-argument...
On that omission I think another possible explanation, the one that I'm really hoping is the correct one, is simply that Apple was holding back talking about some of the A14 improvements for the iPhone 12 launch event especially since in the past that has been when the new SoC generations were announced so I suspect they might well want to be able to deliver at least some extra new information at the iPhone event.
I've just visited a few sites to catch up on what I missed and it looks good and on a new process too with a 40% increase in transistor count. In contradiction to some of the verging-on-trolling from some here I'm amazed that Apple can continue to deliver these sort of percentage performance increases year after year after year within presumably similar or lower thermal and power envelopes to previous generations, in fact I see speculation in a recent Anandtech article that the A14 might be delivering its performance gains within a more conservative power envelope than A13 and A12 (https://www.anandtech.com/show/1608...-a14-soc-meagre-upgrades-or-less-power-hungry).
On the theory that A14 might have reduced power/thermal envelopes that Anandtech article says at the end by way of a counter-argument...
On that omission I think another possible explanation, the one that I'm really hoping is the correct one, is simply that Apple was holding back talking about some of the A14 improvements for the iPhone 12 launch event especially since in the past that has been when the new SoC generations were announced so I suspect they might well want to be able to deliver at least some extra new information at the iPhone event.
May not be a bad thing in the greater scheme of things to have fewer but better options.
come on, just release the date already. I need to get the iPad Air 4 now. can't wait. my iPad mini 4 already aging...
‘Better’ can be an objective category (in terms of technical execution of software), but may also be highly subjective regarding the uses one is looking for in software. ‘Fewer’ does not equate ‘better’, but may also mean ‘overall less useful’.
All of the recent successes and much of what makes people lauf Apple hinges on the fact of their success with high volume/high margin consumer products running high visibility big conglomerate apps. This is a radically different market that the former core traditional Mac market. We may end up losing great systems and gain shinier Youtube creation machines...
Ie: the story of Final Cut Pro. Apple lost Hollywood and Steven Spielberg, but gained the youtube market and Casey Neistat.
The difference in the CPU clock is also huge (1.80 GHz vs 2.99 GHz)
It actually isn't, just Geekbench being confusing.
For the OnePlus the clock speed of the energy efficient cores is listed and for the iPhone the clock speed of the high performance cores is listed.
OnePlus (Snapdragon 865) - 8 Cores: 1x3x4x:
1 x 2.84Ghz Kryo 585 Gold (Cortex A77), 3x 2.42 Ghz Kryo 585 Gold (Cortex A77), 4x 1.8 Ghz Kryo 585 Silver (Cortex A55)
iPad Air 4/ iPhone 12 Series (A14 Bionic) - 6 Cores: 2x4x:
2x 2.99Ghz "FireStorm"
4x ???Ghz "IceStorm" (A13 efficient cores were clocked at 1.7Ghz so expect something between 1.7-2Ghz here)
Hope this clears up some confusion between the differences in clock speed
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I understand multiple core favours the A12z for heavy lifting and graphic intensive processing.
But would it be fair to say the single core advantage over the A12z would be unnoticeable in every day task such as email and using Numbers, Word and Keynote?
Jumping back and forth with this Air and iPad Pro.
But would it be fair to say the single core advantage over the A12z would be unnoticeable in every day task such as email and using Numbers, Word and Keynote?
Jumping back and forth with this Air and iPad Pro.
Not true! Snapdragon 865 high performance core has a 2.8GHz clock speed. 1.8GHz is for the low power cores
You're correct. You will probably not notice any differences between the iPad Air/Pro in any tasks performed in a non-professional environment.
For making a decision between the Air/Pro I would personally look more into whether or not you want the extra camera, lidar sensor, promotion display, lower latency on Apple Pencil, Face ID, ...
In my opinion, the Air 4 is a no-brainer move at the moment if you're not using your ipad in a "pro-environment" and don't really care about what I listed above. Even in a "pro-environment" the Air 4 might be the better pick, although this decision might be harder to make.
My 7 Plus isn’t slow on iOS14. I suspect the difference here is that the 7 Plus has 3 GB RAM, which is 50% more than the 7.
Thanks. There's a Youtuber (Everyday Dad?) that tested the 8th Gen iPad editing 4K video. It handled it rather well, so I suspect the Air would do even better.
Don't care about the camera, lidar and Face ID, or promotion (I think).
However, the lower latency with an Apple Pencil is something which might sway me to the Pro. Had the 6th Gen w/pencil and found the gap and non-laminated screen and latency bothersome. I suspect the Air with Pencil 2 should be better though.
If the A14X has a similar increase in performance over the A14 as the A12X/Z has over the A12 then the multiprocessor scores will be roughy equal to the i9 intel CPUs in the current MacBook Pro 16". Remains to be seen what the graphics performance is like.
At least on the CPU front, I imagine these A14X chips will compete against any console. Remains to be seen, but it will be in a similar ball park performance wise.
At least on the CPU front, I imagine these A14X chips will compete against any console. Remains to be seen, but it will be in a similar ball park performance wise.
No one is talking about the other geekbench Benchmark.
In Metal compute, the A14 gets a 70% improvement over the A13. It’s even better than the iPad Pro
In Metal compute, the A14 gets a 70% improvement over the A13. It’s even better than the iPad Pro