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First A14 Benchmarks from iPad Air 4 Appear Online
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Nope, they have been repeatedly talking about significantly higher single-core performance. [As well as higher multi-core.] I would collect the quotes, but don't have time right now. And you should be able to find them easily enough yourself.
Single thread will be higher mainly due to thermal solution (less throttling). I expect most of the performance gain vs. ipad parts to come from 4+4 vs 2+4 cpu configuration (to start with) and beefier GPUs.
Sure. But my discussion w/ the other poster was about whether people on these forums were claiming there would be significantly higher single-core performance in the first Mac AS chips than in the Intel chips, not how the Mac AS chips would compare to the iPad AS chips. I said people on these forums have been making such claims, he said they weren't.
And you yourself are predicting the first Mac AS chips, even the laptop chips, will have significantly faster single-core performance than even the fastest Intel desktop chips, correct? Here is some of your earlier language, though I don't know which AS chips you are referring to here:
No, I don’t think they will beat the *fastest* intel chips. I think it will beat the chips apple would otherwise buy from Intel for those products.
12571 Metal score for iPad Air 4
iPad Air (3rd gen) was 5242
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Yes ... it’s a result of ARM following Moore’s law and Intel x86 no longer following it already for at least 8 years
My 8 year old MacBook Pro would be indistinguishable from my new 16” if it wasn’t for additional cores - growing sideways - and faster ssd.
and the felt day to day difference is very small - maybe 10%?
Definitely not worth $3000....
mainly my old computer was breaking down
This is less about ARM vs x86 and more about TSMC continuing to make year over year improvements to their process nodes while Intel hasn't moved in five years.
Exactly and year on year I am noticing it is harder and harder to tell the difference in performance, I think the last time I noticed a huge jump in performance was when I upgraded from the iPhone 5 to the iPhone 6 Plus if I remember rightly, but that was likely due to the plus having a larger screen not sure.
Increasing multi-core perf without also increasing single-core perf is useless for most users.
I think you don’t quite realise what kind of chip the ARM processor is. Twice the registers of x86. Greater decode bandwidth, more execution units. Multiply/divide beating the s*** out of any Intel processor. Superior in every way. How can you with a straight face claim that it has anything to do with intels atom abomination?
And your understanding is absolutely completely wrong. Sure, you’ll find some 12 byte instruction on intel that requires two 4 byte instructions on ARM which ends up running faster...
They bend because someone sits with their fat arse on it, or because some pea-brained body builder feels he needs to demonstrate his strength. Those that are in the hands of people who have to pay for a new one don’t bend.
Don’t know what you are going on about. There are two fast cores and four low-power slow cores. Of course they run simultaneously. Why wouldn’t they?
A10 can only run either fast cores or slow ones. A11 and up can combine them.
What the...
My MBP 2015 full fledged laptop i5 laptop has geek bench score of 798sc-1739mc and this ipad has 1583sc-4198mc ?! For $600 running off battery? like DOUBLE as fast? I paid like $2000 for my MBP. The iPad is double as fast as my MB PRO? Is this right?
As someone who lived in the era where pc tower had 33Mhz and you had to push a "turbo" button to make it 66Mhz..I think I am getting a heart attack.
Also this thing is 6x as fast in single core and 4x faster in Multi-Core over my iPad Air 2...such a a nice upgrade!
My MBP 2015 full fledged laptop i5 laptop has geek bench score of 798sc-1739mc and this ipad has 1583sc-4198mc ?! For $600 running off battery? like DOUBLE as fast? I paid like $2000 for my MBP. The iPad is double as fast as my MB PRO? Is this right?
As someone who lived in the era where pc tower had 33Mhz and you had to push a "turbo" button to make it 66Mhz..I think I am getting a heart attack.
Also this thing is 6x as fast in single core and 4x faster in Multi-Core over my iPad Air 2...such a a nice upgrade!
it all depends what you are using the machines for. Basic computing, no you don’t notice too much.
render something with the gpu / cpu and the difference is always noticeable.
curiius how this performs vs the new Microsoft SQ2 (Qualcomm partnership) chip in the Surface X redux.
you got to push a button to get turbo? I still had to move dimple switch over a set of prongs on a P2 266mhz mobo to get any higher performance off a Dell Optiplex
There are some qualifiers here, but yes, expect it to be about twice as fast. But:
- your MBP has way more thermal headroom. It will sustain its performance for much longer. That iPad will throttle after a while. For lengthy computational tasks, an MBP is simply a better choice.
- to be fair, that was already a two-years-old architecture by that point. Apple skipped Broadwell and went straight to Skylake (and was also a bit late on that), so 2015 wasn't a great year to get an up-to-date CPU.
The SQ2 appears to be a variant of the 8cx Gen 2 (rolls right off the tongue), which still has 4+4 Kryo 495 cores, from December 2018.
It might do a little better than the SQ1 (which is roughly on the iPhone 7 level), but probably not by much.