A lot of people were expecting new hardware this to be announced this week week: new iMac, AirTags, Apple over-the-hear headphones. This is what he's addressing. ARM is definitely going to be announced.
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First Arm-Based Macs to Be 13-Inch MacBook Pro and Redesigned iMac, Launches Coming in Late 2020 or Early 2021
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this is tricky. want to substitute my 2013 MacBook air for a 13 inch MacBook pro...do i go with the 2020 iteration...last of a fine breed....or wait a year for the new arm processor...which may or may not have issues/need further refinement
Go with Arm. You’ll be glad you did.
Perhaps they think that the new ARM chip will drive enough new demand on a model design that, for Apple, has a lower cost to produce now than when it first launched in 2016. Why redesign the case when this new chip transition is enough to squeeze out a few more sales on an older, cheaper to produce design? As a consumer, I would not purchase this model, but I would wait for an ARM chip with a redesign, in some fashion, at least in increased screen size and quality.
Interesting, in 2006 the first Macs to get Intel processors were the iMac and the MacBook Pro. History repeating itself.
Oh, I see. Well, seems to me they have plenty to talk about. It’s not unusual for them to *not* talk about hardware at WWDC, so I’m not surprised. These other things will get their turn. AirTags may not count as “hardware” - would expect them to be discussed at some point.
That will be very painful to all 12 people per year who buy expensive Macs in order to run bootcamp.
(less than 2% of Mac users install boot camp as of 2019)
If they’re imminently planning to update the iMac’s design within a year before switching to Arm, they’ve likely left themselves room within the new design to make changes to accompany an Arm transition. In this case, it’d probably be room to make the enclosure thinner next year, if that’s the route they want to go.
Makes complete sense to use the MacBook Pro as the starting point. It has an actual heat sink/fan combo for up to 45W.
The MacBook Air relies on passive cooling and forces the current processors to throttle heavily.
The MacBook Air relies on passive cooling and forces the current processors to throttle heavily.
"12 to 18 months for Apple to transition to an all-Arm lineup"
Surely not? Not for the Mac Pro? Would they really be able to develop workstation class ARM chips in such a short period of time and be willing to EOL an entirely new system that was just released? And all the PCI cards, GPU's and 3rd party stuff that can go into one, do the drivers all need to be recoded?
Seems unlikely in a short period of time. It would be upsetting to me though, I bought the 2019 MP as a long term productivity investment. If it's still not kicking ass or its being harmstrung by some sort of OS based Intel / ARM translation layer in 6 years time, then for the first time I might just reconsider the Hackintosh route. Apple would lose my trust in that matter.
When I invested in the system, i considered the price in regards to lifetime and productivity. If Apple tip that apple cart (pun intended) then the $$$ / value ratio of that system no longer works for me.
Surely not? Not for the Mac Pro? Would they really be able to develop workstation class ARM chips in such a short period of time and be willing to EOL an entirely new system that was just released? And all the PCI cards, GPU's and 3rd party stuff that can go into one, do the drivers all need to be recoded?
Seems unlikely in a short period of time. It would be upsetting to me though, I bought the 2019 MP as a long term productivity investment. If it's still not kicking ass or its being harmstrung by some sort of OS based Intel / ARM translation layer in 6 years time, then for the first time I might just reconsider the Hackintosh route. Apple would lose my trust in that matter.
When I invested in the system, i considered the price in regards to lifetime and productivity. If Apple tip that apple cart (pun intended) then the $$$ / value ratio of that system no longer works for me.
Unfortunate they didn't do a mid-way refresh of the 16" with 10th gen (if nothing more than for that sweet 5.3Ghz single core boost clock).
Guess I'll just make this 16" i9 last 5 years or so to let ARM mature enough, or leave Apple all together for computing. If I didn't already have the 16" and didn't despise Dell, I'd be leaving right now and going for a 17" XPS with a 2060.
No. Buying the first gen of an all new design is a mistake though. Unless you like paying a fortune to be a beta tester. And a complete lack of support for anything legacy that requires X86.
Only way I'd buy a first gen ARM Mac is if Apple paid me to do it.
Guess I'll just make this 16" i9 last 5 years or so to let ARM mature enough, or leave Apple all together for computing. If I didn't already have the 16" and didn't despise Dell, I'd be leaving right now and going for a 17" XPS with a 2060.
No. Buying the first gen of an all new design is a mistake though. Unless you like paying a fortune to be a beta tester. And a complete lack of support for anything legacy that requires X86.
Only way I'd buy a first gen ARM Mac is if Apple paid me to do it.
Wow, such a bold move. But this was expected, sooner or later.
Embrace for impact guys, especially for virtualization and boot camp folks !!
Embrace for impact guys, especially for virtualization and boot camp folks !!
the PPC-to-Intel transition happened inside of 18 months. I don't expect any different this time. If Apple is transitioning to ARM it's because they believe they can go all the way. Otherwise no point doing it.
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Don't be surprised if Bootcamp is dead.
I guess this is goodbye for non-iOS port gaming on the Mac. Would be funny if companies like Blizzard went all in on supporting ARM, and iOS while they're at it, but I don't see it happening. Kills Bootcamp too.
Not really a huge loss, even Linux has surprisingly become a better gaming platform than macOS ever was, and hopefully the architecture switch means Apple can focus on getting macOS back to being a reliable workhorse. I'm excited to see how this all goes down.
Not really a huge loss, even Linux has surprisingly become a better gaming platform than macOS ever was, and hopefully the architecture switch means Apple can focus on getting macOS back to being a reliable workhorse. I'm excited to see how this all goes down.
As someone who has largely moved from Mac to iPad Pro for my work (I'm a photographer and graphic designer), while I might still consider getting an ARM iMac for desktop use, I'm most excited what this move to ARM will mean for iPadOS apps. If developers are making ARM apps for Mac going forward, those will be compatible with the iPad, though I'm sure Apple will require a UI built for touch before allowing those apps in the iOS App Store.
Tomorrow's ARM announcement will bring us much closer to FinalCutPro for iPad, which is the last major app I'm missing before not needing a Mac at all.
Tomorrow's ARM announcement will bring us much closer to FinalCutPro for iPad, which is the last major app I'm missing before not needing a Mac at all.
It’s hard to believe they would completely abandon Intel, after releasing a redesigned Mac Pro. ARM makes sense for ultra-portable devices, but not for pro equipment right now. A complete transition would kill Parallels and VMware Fusion as well, as it would make no financial sense to keep supporting it anymore. We’ll see in 24 hours I guess. There’s no point speculating when the event is coming tomorrow. I don’t think emulation is feasible at the speeds we require. Microsoft can only emulate 32-bit Intel and at an abysmal speed.
Would have made sense for ARM to be different sizes from the intel models, seems like this article implies the 24” iMac could be ARM which makes sense.
It's been over two years since the last update for FCPX on the Mac. Some FCPX guys seem to think it's because Apple is working on an iPad version. Cross your fingers.
IMHO...Apple wants to get rid of their remaining Intel chips before the full ARM transition!
Well, actually I not bother sunsetting bootcamp since I have dedicated Windows workstation. But sometimes virtualization which need do in same instance of machine are going to PITA.
Another bonus of bootcamp is driver. Let’s says Apple release a new set of peripheral new magic keebs and mouse, and a Windows guys want to used it fully functionally on their machine, shouldn’t problem.