ARM is just an instruction set that Apple licenses. If they wanted an ARM processor for the Mac Pro, they can design one specifically for that.
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First Arm-Based Macs to Be 13-Inch MacBook Pro and Redesigned iMac, Launches Coming in Late 2020 or Early 2021
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A lot more then 2% of people run Windows in a VM on there Mac and switching to ARM kills this. Every dev. I know runs Windows in a VM thats one reason why the Mac is so popular for development work and this kills a big thing for a lot of people.
Welp, this may completely blow up my upgrade plans for this year. No sense in sinking the money into either of the the 10th gen MBPs, or grabbing this year’s iMac refresh if this is true.
As long as Civilization runs on it I’m happy. And since there’s a very good port on ipados, I think I’ll be happy
I mean, Final Cut Pro is made for touch. Just look at it. All the large touch targets, extensive drag and drop features and simplified menus, it's like they made it for iPad first then decided to release it for Mac only.
I think what has been holding FCP from being released for iPad was the lack of external file storage. It's certainly not for lack of power. The iPad Pro has always had the juice to run it. I run FCP on an 8 year old iMac just fine.
Good point. I was using Mac's at the time, and the Mac community was overwhelmingly positive for the transition. Motorola had really dropped the ball on their chips.
Looking at the numbers:
Apple release the G5 in 2003. In 2006 they discontinue it and release the intel Mac Pro. In 2012 they discontinue supporting Rosetta emulator with OSX Lion.
So the G5 was at the top of its game for 3 years.
Interestingly, according the Wiki, and adjusting for inflation, the G5 was released in 2003 for approx $2800. Its easier to swallow the pill that your system has been superseded when it only cost half of what you have to pay now.
I also wonder what this will mean for VMs. No support, or support with atrocious performance, or support with 'just' bad performance, or a better solution ? Hopefully, within a week, we will know.
Eventually they may be able to work in emulators, and, if not, Apple is more than willing to trade that market share for the marketshare they will pick up for other reasons,.
Hedge their bet. Offer both and see which one people go for. Apple expects people will go for the ARM, but if they're wrong, there will be a new Intel iMac also available.
Impossible, that 16” dgpu will crush the igpu from arm chip
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Lets hope the 13” ARM mbp will fix the intel one..better battery life under load, more than 3-4hours and less heat, under 40c and under 90c cpu
The software transition shouldn't be as painful given that MacBooks have become more specialized. The mass market will use MacBooks for browsing the web, movies, Facebook, iMessage, etc. The remaining "pros" that use the Mac will be creatives doing video and photo editing. Apple will launch the Arm transition showing the Adobe Creative Suite and Microsoft Office along with FCP. That will basically cover the majority of pro users. Catalyst will help fill in the gaps for random apps. Anyone who currently does parallels or bootcamp will just have to get a windows box (dirt cheap). Anyone who does gaming, CAD, engineering are already on Windows.
I’d love a 12” MacBook Pro that outperforms the current 13” model and weighs less. But even if it is the 13” MacBook Pro, I’ll likely buy it. It suggests that Apple is very confident in its performance and the availability of applications if they really start with the iMac and MacBook Pro.
Could be a marketing related decision too. If there is no imperative for a hardware release they could delay as there are a couple of opportunities to launch stuff like ARM MacBook, AirPods, AppleTV and AirPower.
In the case of AirPower they may need more testing time.
In the case of ARM hardware a decision on the processor may have been made to base first models on the A14 so rather than release an A12x product they may have decided to leave it till winter and drop some really powerful ARM stuff.
What if the AppleTv was coming with A14x too?
Exactly. Many of us live in both worlds. Just got though the death of 32 bit apps. Happy for Apple but I am leaving Apple and I don’t know how many years. Will continue to enjoy my iPad Pro and iPhone, but no more Mac.
it's not going to, and initially compatibility just will not be there for many major programs.
and even if it could, better question is: how would it compare to ryzen of this gen and the upcoming release later this year?
I just hope they don't try to force everyone down the 'install via app store only' route. They can ship glorious hardware, but I don't think I can swallow that.
Given the sentiment about app store policies and the bad reception of late - I don't think there's any way then can avoid talking about this topic tomorrow, right?
Given the sentiment about app store policies and the bad reception of late - I don't think there's any way then can avoid talking about this topic tomorrow, right?
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Well, it also means you can’t run VMWare Fusion, Parallels, or Docker Desktop. That raises the number a lot higher than 2%, I bet.
It would be nice to see the pro apps running on iPad OS.
FCP X and Logic Pro X would both be nice to have more portable.
How does an iPad Pro benchmark against a MacBook Pro today? I thought they were pretty close, but there are some apps (and admittedly, the biggest performance drains in my case) that aren't there to compare.
How much more performance can they buy with the larger form factor and power available? If an iPad is running close to MB Pro, what if you could double that? Say you doubled up on you arm cores, you could see a substantial performance boost.
FCP X and Logic Pro X would both be nice to have more portable.
How does an iPad Pro benchmark against a MacBook Pro today? I thought they were pretty close, but there are some apps (and admittedly, the biggest performance drains in my case) that aren't there to compare.
How much more performance can they buy with the larger form factor and power available? If an iPad is running close to MB Pro, what if you could double that? Say you doubled up on you arm cores, you could see a substantial performance boost.
Doubtful, unless you are talking about the $800 upgrade.
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Whatever the percentage is, easy for Apple to make it up with new customers attracted by the massive increase in speed, battery life, and iOS compatibility.
Kuo’s actual wording seems to be “ARM iMac will be equipped with the all-new form factor design and a 24- inch display. Apple will launch the refresh of existing Intel iMac in 3Q20 before launching the ARM iMac.”
So I think the interpretation on other sites is off.
I'm using a Surface Pro X - the ARM computer by Microsoft because I was curious about it. Turned out it runs fine - it even runs some 32bit apps compiled for Intel CPUs. What blew my mind was that it runs League of Legends a full game emulated with FPS of around 75 on medium - high settings on 1440p.
So if Apple offers a somewhat compatiblity layer like Microsoft does - interesting times ahead.
So if Apple offers a somewhat compatiblity layer like Microsoft does - interesting times ahead.