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Fairly different customer needs/prioritizations. The M2 Air appeals to customers who place a high value on smaller size and weight. The 14" MacBook Pro appeals to customers who need processing power and greater memory/storage capacity and are willing to trade off lower size/weight to achieve those performance goals (or those who truly want a larger screen). The 16" MacBook Pro appeals to those customers who need the power and have a need or desire for a larger screen size when mobile. The 14" MBP is sort of in a sweet spot between the Air and the 16" MBP, but its not the best fit for everyones needs/wants...

I would still like to know if the M2 is already capable of beating a M1 Pro since it’s a next generation
 
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Should've guessed it's the useless synthetic benchmark. How about real workloads?
This was not someone doing benchmarking and publishing the results. Someone ran Geekbench on an M2 MBA and then someone else saw the results in Geekbench test history. It’s going to take more time for people to do real-world testing and publish the results.
 
2 x 128GB modules work faster than 1 x 256GB module, yes?

So people are saying go for 512GB because it will be made up of 2 x 256GB modules.

But what if it is just one 512GB module? Same relative slowness?
 
SSD performance affects user experience since my M1 256GB is already slow to launch apps while watching the app icon bounce several times. Can't imagine Apple is making it worse with M2.
I’ve found app launch times to be fairly inconsistent as many apps make external connections while they are loading. Sometimes those connections are slower than others. Of course it also is affected by Apple security checks. Fortunately most apps you load one and then use for an extended period of time. It is the running performance that matters more. Load time and bounce count are just easy metrics to note so they get more importance in comparisons that their actual value warrants.
 
THANK YOU! I’m a student (computer science) who needed to upgrade from my older Intel MacBook Pro (too hot, becoming slow at basic tasks), and I’m just not in the financial position right now to upgrade the storage, especially with what Apple charges. Even with the smaller base SSD (I had to upgrade the RAM though), this will be such an improvement over my 2019 MBP. Still, I need the SSD to be reasonably performant for development tasks.
As long as you get the 512GB MBA or larger, you will likely see no performance gotchas. In any case, it is going to be worlds faster than that older MacBook Faux.
 
I probably fit into the profile of the typical base configuration MBA consumer. I run the typical apps; Mail, Messages Safari, Notes, Calendar, Contacts, FaceTime, Zoom, Photos, iWork, and MS Office. Rarely, I will make an iMovie, but these are usually just glorified slide shows with some background music and a few built-in effects.

Currently, I have a 2020 i3 MBA, and I am tempted to buy the base model M2 MBA. The SSD thing doesn't really worry me, since my usage is not very taxing. I like the idea of a silent fan-less laptop. Also, the additional battery life compared to my intel MBA would be nice.....although, I rarely drop below 50% with my current MBA. The improved camera would be a plus, since I frequently do calls with family and friends. Anyway, the point I am making is that tech sites tend to focus on performance and speed, but many MBA consumers get more than enough performance from their old laptops. So, that isn't always the primary factor in peoples' decision, especially in the entry-level market.
 
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Fastest EVER Geekbench single core numbers from a Mac, and folks are like "Nothing to see here really. This is what we've been expecting." Those folks don't understand processor development, thermals, or how to manage expectations.

There are 19 months between the M1 and M2. Of course it would be the fastest scores ever, given that all M1 variants have the same single-core setup. An 11% improvement after 19 months simply isn’t that great. As for what people have been expecting: well, yeah, they could extrapolate from the A15. Hopefully, the M3 will deliver more than that. (We may soon get an idea, when A16 scores come out.)
 
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THANK YOU! I’m a student (computer science) who needed to upgrade from my older Intel MacBook Pro (too hot, becoming slow at basic tasks), and I’m just not in the financial position right now to upgrade the storage, especially with what Apple charges. Even with the smaller base SSD (I had to upgrade the RAM though), this will be such an improvement over my 2019 MBP. Still, I need the SSD to be reasonably performant for development tasks.

Get an M1 Air with 16 Gigs of RAM instead. For your use case, that’s a more important priority.
 
Not only apps bounce but reinstall of MacOS takes half a business day so storage system is slow and not an app problem but nice try. And, then to imagine that they made it worse with M2.
What apps are you installing that take half a business day? I can wipe the drive and have everything reinstalled on my M1 in less than 2 hours.

I have seen your posting history and it is mostly negative when it comes to Apple. I haven't seen very many objective posts by you.
 
Get an M1 Air with 16 Gigs of RAM instead. For your use case, that’s a more important priority.
I agree. The 16 GB will make sure the system will remain snappy for a few more years. And as a student, you shouldn't focus on the latest and greatest in my view. You can probably get a good deal on a MacBook Air M1 if you look around a bit. Lots of promo's
 
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this laptop despite looking nice is a pass ... when someone is okay with 8/256GB they rather choose the M1 Air ...

with 16/512GB the price is not that far from base 14" Pro, which is better in every way
 
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What apps are you installing that take half a business day? I can wipe the drive and have everything reinstalled on my M1 in less than 2 hours.

I have seen your posting history and it is mostly negative when it comes to Apple. I haven't seen very many objective posts by you.

Just MacOS reinstall takes half a business day without restoring apps or data compared to Windows 10/11 that takes like 15 minutes.

I've seen your posting history that shows you're just fanboying and making apologies for one brand while I'm brand agnostic tech enthusiast so have experience with MacOS, Windows, Linux, BSD, ChromeOS, etc.
 
Why? A lot of people don’t need more.
Those who do photos/videos will want much more than even 512. Those who use MBA in office environment don’t need more than 256.
Besides, every entry level PC laptop is offered with 256 too.
Why not 64 GBs then, or 32 GBs since you can just store everything in the cloud. Please, stop defending stinginess. People keep these devices for up to a decade. A reasonable future proofing Apple can offer is more default storage.
 
Just MacOS reinstall takes half a business day without restoring apps or data compared to Windows 10/11 that takes like 15 minutes.

I've seen your posting history that shows you're just fanboying and making apologies for one brand while I'm brand agnostic tech enthusiast so have experience with MacOS, Windows, Linux, BSD, ChromeOS, etc.
There is no way the OS itself takes half a day to install on the M1 MBA. That isn't true unless your machine is defective.
 
There is no way the OS itself takes half a day to install on the M1 MBA. That isn't true unless your machine is defective.
Yes way. I'm using the USB restore method while you're probably thinking of Apple Configurator 2 that requires another Mac and skips the USB creation.
 
this laptop despite looking nice is a pass ... when someone is okay with 8/256GB they rather choose the M1 Air ...

with 16/512GB the price is not that far from base 14" Pro, which is better in every way

But the Air is 360g lighter! And colors!
 
Why not 64 GBs then, or 32 GBs since you can just store everything in the cloud. Please, stop defending stinginess. People keep these devices for up to a decade. A reasonable future proofing Apple can offer is more default storage.
Those small flash chips aren’t manufactured anymore, gee, maybe Apple knows better than you how big their market for 256 is and they are definitely serving a market.
And stop this BS about “future proofing”, if that is YOUR purpose then invest properly, entry level doesn’t serve that purpose
 
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Then you are doing it wrong. Doesn‘t take anywhere near that long
Yes way. I'm using the USB restore method while you're probably thinking of Apple Configurator 2 that requires another Mac and skips the USB creation.
Can't you just reset it to factory config base OS since you are excluding app and data installation? Thats a pretty fast process...
 
Yeah, the whole "it's better than all of these old $5000+ Intel Macs" is really not interesting as essentially nobody in the market for a new Apple computer is considering an Intel Mac.

I hope the Intel comparisons cease once Apple gives us that ARM Mac Pro or an iMac Pro at the very least.
Issue is, is that Apple is selling these actively. Both Mac Pro and Mac mini
(Mac mini Intel is more expensive than M1, so should be considered "the higher specc'ed Mac mini")
 
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