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This simply isn’t true. I restore our macs all the time at work when our contractors leave and they’re pretty old. They take about 25 - 30 minutes unless you’re doing Internet restore, that takes longer.

Which Mac and storage size are you referring to since they're different? I'm referring to M1 256GB and using this method with USB flash drive:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372
 
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Why is SSD speed not good for everybody? More information means better informed people, more specification menas better choices can be made.

Because they're focusing on sequential reads (and writes?) which isn't the best benchmark for low-performance work. Random read and writes is usually more important.

So what's the difference in random reads and writes?
 
Since it's called M2 vs M1, they'd expect the chip to be faster without having other components drag it back down.

If they expect a new model to be faster or better in every way, that's an error of judgement.

Hopefully their quality of life will suffer dramatically from this, so it will also be a learning experience for those people.
 
Not only apps bounce but reinstall of MacOS takes half a business day so storage system is slow and not an app problem but nice try. And, then to imagine that they made it worse with M2. Why does Apple need to improve if people keep apologizing?
Takes half a business day. I have a fleet of 60 MBAs on site and never has one taken that long before. I can get them gone under 2 hours.

I think someone better tell you that you’re dreaming.
 
For my uses, these machines will blast through anything I would throw at them on any given day — plus, I’d be getting the 1TB model, which supposedly won’t be effected by the slower SSD issue.

What I’m mostly curious about is the screen. On paper, it’s virtually identical to the previous MBA, but I’m hoping for a decent improvement in person.
it's 25% brighter tho

probably has better contrast too
 
Takes half a business day. I have a fleet of 60 MBAs on site and never has one taken that long before. I can get them gone under 2 hours.

You're probably doing a reset rather than reinstall of MacOS. Anyhow, prove it. Start a video record from start to finish of creating USB bootable installer to reinstall of MacOS on M1 256GB using the method linked below.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372
 
You're probably doing a reset rather than reinstall of MacOS. Anyhow, prove it. Start a video record from start to finish of creating USB bootable installer to reinstall of MacOS on M1 256GB using the method linked below.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372
…why would you be recreating and installer USB every time you image a machine?

We’ve agreed previously that it does take longer to install macOS than Windows…but what is the point of this comment?

It takes about an hour from start to finish to download and run the Windows media creation tool…but you create once and you’re good until the next major release. Do you really think IT departments recreate installation media for every install? 😂
 
Just MacOS reinstall takes half a business day without restoring apps or data compared to Windows 10/11 that takes like 15 minutes.

I've seen your posting history that shows you're just fanboying and making apologies for one brand while I'm brand agnostic tech enthusiast so have experience with MacOS, Windows, Linux, BSD, ChromeOS, etc.
I just installled 12.4 a few days ago. Took about an hour. I had lunch while it was going on.
 
Hey all — newb question here. I’ve been reading the forums for months and hoping I can be pointed in the right direction. If I’m operating under the same budget — ~$1200 — should I go with a 16gb RAM M1, or a base model M2? I’d be using it for word processing, browsing, Netflix — besides my habit of having a million tabs open, nothing too strenuous IMO.

I know most folks here are power users, but there’s been enough talk about how 8gb RAM is apparently insufficient across the board, so I’m conflicted. I’d love for the machine to last as long as possible, so I don’t know if a 16GB “older model” would fare better than an 8gb newer model, both on its own resiliency + Apple support factors?

Thank you so much.
 
Fairly different customer needs/prioritizations. The M2 Air appeals to customers who place a high value on smaller size and weight. The 14" MacBook Pro appeals to customers who need processing power and greater memory/storage capacity and are willing to trade off lower size/weight to achieve those performance goals (or those who truly want a larger screen). The 16" MacBook Pro appeals to those customers who need the power and have a need or desire for a larger screen size when mobile. The 14" MBP is sort of in a sweet spot between the Air and the 16" MBP, but its not the best fit for everyones needs/wants...
Well said, friend. For someone like me who is still rocking a MBA 2015 8/512, though it just can't handle what I need (don't ask how many tabs I have open as I write this), I would've been happy with another 11inch, though that ship has sailed. I definitely appreciate the lower weight and size of the M2 13 inch, even though I need to max out on memory for the next machine; also I'm someone who would rather not upgrade every few years (hence the 2015 machine). Yes, it's comparable to other Pro models, but I'll take that trade-off. Is it the wisest move? I don't know. But will I be thrilled with what I get. Oh, yes. Though I'd like to wait for a refurb model if possible.
 
Hey all — newb question here. I’ve been reading the forums for months and hoping I can be pointed in the right direction. If I’m operating under the same budget — ~$1200 — should I go with a 16gb RAM M1, or a base model M2? I’d be using it for word processing, browsing, Netflix — besides my habit of having a million tabs open, nothing too strenuous IMO.

I know most folks here are power users, but there’s been enough talk about how 8gb RAM is apparently insufficient across the board, so I’m conflicted. I’d love for the machine to last as long as possible, so I don’t know if a 16GB “older model” would fare better than an 8gb newer model, both on its own resiliency + Apple support factors?

Thank you so much.
Do you have to have so many tabs open at once (for work) or is it just a preference? Having numerous tabs open at once along with video running etc. can use some RAM. My current M1 MBA 8RAM has done well although I have had memory pressure a few times with some video encoding, 4K video running, and a lot of tabs. Not my usual daily practice mind you but, it is something to consider. If your budget is tight, I recommend the M1.
 
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Hey all — newb question here. I’ve been reading the forums for months and hoping I can be pointed in the right direction. If I’m operating under the same budget — ~$1200 — should I go with a 16gb RAM M1, or a base model M2? I’d be using it for word processing, browsing, Netflix — besides my habit of having a million tabs open, nothing too strenuous IMO.

16GB M1 > 8GB M2
 
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An early benchmark result for the new MacBook Air has surfaced, providing a closer look at the M2 chip's performance in the notebook.

MacBook-Air-M2-Chip-Purple-Feature.jpg

In a Geekbench 5 result spotted by "Mr. Macintosh" on Twitter, the MacBook Air with the M2 chip and 16GB of unified memory achieved a single-core score of 1,899 and a multi-core score of 8,965. These scores are approximately the same as those achieved by the 13-inch MacBook Pro with the M2 chip, confirming that the notebooks have virtually identical performance in synthetic testing, as was the case with the M1 models.

While the M2 chip performs equally in the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro in Geekbench testing, the MacBook Pro could still fare better in real-world usage during sustained, demanding workloads since, unlike the MacBook Air, it has a fan.

The result also confirms that the M2 MacBook Air outperforms the base model Mac Pro tower with an 8‑core Intel Xeon W processor despite costing nearly $5,000 less. While that is not an apples-to-apples comparison, it is nevertheless a testament to the impressive performance of Apple silicon chips in more affordable Macs.

It remains to be seen if the base model M2 MacBook Air with a 256GB SSD is equipped with only a single NAND storage chip. Last month, it was discovered that the base model M2 MacBook Pro has significantly slower SSD speeds compared to the equivalent M1 model due to having a single 256GB storage chip instead of two 128GB chips. Due to virtual memory swapping, slower SSD speeds can impact overall system performance at times.

Apple began accepting pre-orders for the new MacBook Air on Friday, July 8, and the first deliveries to customers and in-store availability will begin on Friday, July 15. Pricing for the new MacBook Air starts at $1,199 in the United States, while the previous-generation MacBook Air with the M1 chip remains available for $999.

Article Link: First Benchmark Result Surfaces for MacBook Air With M2 Chip
I talked with Apple Sales Support yesterday, and they confirmed that the based model of the MacBook Air M2 (256 GB) only has a single SSD Chip like the Pro M2 based model.
 
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Do you have to have so many tabs open at once (for work) or is it just a preference? Having numerous tabs open at once along with video running etc. can use some RAM. My current M1 MBA 8RAM has done well although I have had memory pressure a few times with some video encoding, 4K video running, and a lot of tabs. Not my usual daily practice mind you but, it is something to consider. If your budget is tight, I recommend the M1.
Thanks for the reply - tabs aren’t for work, this will be my personal computer. Just some bad self control with tab cleanup! I’m going from essentially no laptop to this laptop (2011 MBP died a few years ago + didn’t replace it), so I’m not expecting too much use, but I also want it to last. Just need help comparing a “souped up” M1 vs base M2 for value, longevity, etc.
 
I talked with Apple Sales Support yesterday, and they confirmed that the based model of the MacBook Air M2 (256 GB) only has a single SSD Chip like the Pro M2 based model.
Thanks for checking. I would be surprised if it were different than the M2 MBP in that regard.
 
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