I appreciate the succinct answer! That’s my gut, just wanting to make sure I’m not crazy… the M2 is beautiful, but the folks saying 8GB isn’t sufficient even for casual use are persuasive.16GB M1 > 8GB M2
I appreciate the succinct answer! That’s my gut, just wanting to make sure I’m not crazy… the M2 is beautiful, but the folks saying 8GB isn’t sufficient even for casual use are persuasive.16GB M1 > 8GB M2
I think you would be happy with either machine. It is just a matter of how much you are willing to spend.Thanks for the reply - tabs aren’t for work, this will be my personal computer. Just some bad self control with tab cleanup! I’m going from essentially no laptop to this laptop (2011 MBP died a few years ago + didn’t replace it), so I’m not expecting too much use, but I also want it to last. Just need help comparing a “souped up” M1 vs base M2 for value, longevity, etc.
I *could* spend the money on storage, but as a student I’d rather not, since I have other expenses. I don’t need the space, I’d just rather have the best performance for the price. I chose M2 over M1 because if I’m spending so much money already, I might as well have the current generation. (Likely longer OS support, less tired design, etc.) Also, I didn’t want a display downgrade from my MBP to the M1 Air in terms of brightness. Plus, I got money for my trade, and the educational discount and promo made it attainable for me.You’re financially stable enough to buy an $1199 computer but not financially stable enough to spend another $200 to upgrade the storage to 512GB? If not, then you really should be buying the M1 Air, not an M2, since the M2 really has zero benefit to you in pursuing a computer science degree.
I got the M2 with 16 GB RAM when pre-orders went live. I already have that amount, so I absolutely see the importance of it! I don’t really need the storage space especially when I can offload files and projects to iCloud or a git repo.Get an M1 Air with 16 Gigs of RAM instead. For your use case, that’s a more important priority.
I have a notch on my phone and I don't really notice it until I use another phone that doesn't and I wish that my iPhone didn't.I have a notch macihine and never notice it.
Well, just the people who read MacRumors. We should stress this is an Apple enthusiast issue--normal people don't even know what "SSD" meansHuge difference/improvement but let’s test out the SSD test. That’s what the people are waiting for.
For casual usage, I think 8GB is okay. I have 8GB on my olllld MBP and I never have any issues, even when I have a lot open. And that’s an Intel machine. The bottleneck there is the 12 year old CPU. 😛I appreciate the succinct answer! That’s my gut, just wanting to make sure I’m not crazy… the M2 is beautiful, but the folks saying 8GB isn’t sufficient even for casual use are persuasive.
Apple Support wouldn't know this level of detail, only engineering, plus, its not even released, so they wouldn't answer such type questions ... show proofI talked with Apple Sales Support yesterday, and they confirmed that the based model of the MacBook Air M2 (256 GB) only has a single SSD Chip like the Pro M2 based model.
Thank you, and thank you for the edits! Not worried about storage, I’ve got some external hard drives (that I do need to push to the cloud via my next laptop, if that’s a consideration?). I’ll take your suggestion and lurk the 16GB MBA refurb page for awhile until I get too impatientFor casual usage, I think 8GB is okay. I have 8GB on my olllld MBP and I never have any issues, even when I have a lot open. And that’s an Intel machine. The bottleneck there is the 12 year old CPU. 😛
BUT (!), if I were buying my next 5-year+ machine, I would go with 16GB in a heartbeat. No questions asked. Those OS updates slowly turn that previously unused RAM into less and less.
Check the refurb store for the M1’s. You can save a few bucks.
Edit - What kind of storage were you looking for? This 16GB / 1TB machine is $1400.
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Refurbished 13.3-inch MacBook Air Apple M1 Chip with 8âCore CPU and 8âCore GPU - Space Gray
Originally released November 2020|13.3-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display with IPS technology; 2560-by-1600 native resolution at 227 pixels per inch|16GB unified memory|1TB SSD1|Touch ID sensor|720p FaceTime HD Camerawww.apple.com
Edit #2 - Just read your original post again. If you don’t need 1TB storage then don’t waste your money on the MacBook I linked.
I hope you find the one you’re looking for soon, and at a killer price! Good luck.Thank you, and thank you for the edits! Not worried about storage, I’ve got some external hard drives (that I do need to push to the cloud via my next laptop, if that’s a consideration?). I’ll take your suggestion and lurk the 16GB MBA refurb page for awhile until I get too impatient
EDIT - Can I still get AppleCare on a refurb machine bought from Apple?
I love my M1 13” MBP. Got the base 8GB/512GB a couple of weeks after it was launched. Really tempted to buy a silver 16GB/1TB and give this one to my wife. Her 2017 12.9” iPad runs fine, but iPadOS let’s her down the same way it does me, just not as frequently.Or the MacBook Pro 13”…😉
I would say given your use case I’d go with the M1 as you’re not going to notice a difference day to day. The 16GB just provides headroom but honestly you’d probably be delighted for your usage on 8. If your holding onto it for the long haul go 16, stop thinking about it and just enjoy the machine.I appreciate the succinct answer! That’s my gut, just wanting to make sure I’m not crazy… the M2 is beautiful, but the folks saying 8GB isn’t sufficient even for casual use are persuasive.
Happy wife happy life.I love my M1 13” MBP. Got the base 8GB/512GB a couple of weeks after it was launched. Really tempted to buy a silver 16GB/1TB and give this one to my wife. Her 2017 12.9” iPad runs fine, but iPadOS let’s her down the same way it does me, just not as frequently.
Yes you absolutely can, I buy from the Apple refurb store whenever I can for work and slap the AppleCare in for “free” because of the price difference.Thank you, and thank you for the edits! Not worried about storage, I’ve got some external hard drives (that I do need to push to the cloud via my next laptop, if that’s a consideration?). I’ll take your suggestion and lurk the 16GB MBA refurb page for awhile until I get too impatient
EDIT - Can I still get AppleCare on a refurb machine bought from Apple?
Was going to do the same, but need to see the SSD speeds, etc.This will be a welcome upgrade from my mint MacBook Pro 2010 with 16GB of RAM and 2TB Samsung SSD. I ordered my maxed-out MacBook Air (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD), which should last me as long as my MacBook Pro. I didn't really need to do the upgrade but thought it is time I go into a new machine.
What? You’re not in constant need of moving TB’s of data for workstation-level workflows *on your MacBook Air*?“Significantly slower speeds…”.
This is some cringe hyperbole. In real world usage probably noticed by no one.
M2 produces more heat. 10 GPU cores. Larger chip. More transistors. Still 5nm. The difference between M2 with and without a fan will most likely be larger than M1 difference.I imagine the difference is the same as the M1 Air vs the M1 MBP13. No fan vs fan. How would M2 be any different?
Microsoft Office for Mac apps have some excessive icon bouncing... Wish they'd optimize Office a bit better for macOS.App icon "bounces" is not necessarily a product of SSD speed. Affinity apps, for instance, have a flaw that causes their apps to bounce over 20 times before launching. It's a software issue due to checks that Apple makes, not SSD speeds.
Entry level PCs don’t cost $1200. Almost every windows laptop at $800 and up price points have at least 512GB SSD, with some even have 16GB of RAM. Apple is a cheapskate.Why? A lot of people don’t need more.
Those who do photos/videos will want much more than even 512. Those who use MBA in office environment don’t need more than 256.
Besides, every entry level PC laptop is offered with 256 too.