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I am ok with the all in one concept. Also consider many people buy laptops anymore... which in essence are an all in one.

Years ago I used to build pcs for myself. Now as an aged veteran, I would much rather avoid the hassle as my time is worth more than the money saved (if I actually saved). Most things aren't that 'upgradable' anymore and it leads to replacing all sorts of components such as motherboards to match slot sizes, etc etc... and keep an older case and a monitor. Might as well just go all new.

That being said, I do wish they would allow for user upgradable memory. It always comes in handy to extend the life of a machine.

27 inch iMac has user accessible memory. No issue there.
 
Agreed, "upgradeability" is nothing more than empty word nowadays. Custom built PC is getting more and more limited and OEMs would just sell you an all-in-one and be done with it. Like you said, when the time comes to upgrade you would want to replace many things in your computer. Might as well get a brand new one.

Agreed. You just have to make sure one part of the computer doesn't become outdated more quickly than the other parts. With my Mac Pro, the GPU was that part, and I upgraded it from an ATI 2600 to a Nvidia GTX 650Ti BOOST and extended the life of it (since the 2600 wasn't working properly with Lion for some reason and sounded like a lawnmower).
 
Exactly my intentions. I'm going to turn my Retina MacBook Pro into a desktop of sorts by getting myself either the Samsung or Asus 4K monitor and the Apple wireless peripherals. I was waiting to see if Apple were gonna offer a 4K TB display but it now seems they're only gonna offer 5K and it'll be massively expensive.

I feel like a 4k display will be really underpowered on a macbook pro. You won't get far with it aside from watching 4k movies/videos and basic web surfing.
 
I have a question about something that I don't see Mac people talk about very much.

I have a 27" iMac that has served me very well since 2010. I've never had any other desktop for this long.

But here's a problem I'm having. I don't see the text very well most of the time.

If I'm at 2560 x 1440 and looking at something that can be zoomed (like most Web pages with text), I'll zoom in two or three times to be able to read as easily as I want. This also applies to annoying HTML mail in size 10.

If I'm looking at something that cannot be zoomed, then I'll switch to 1920 x 1080 and that usually does the trick, but of course it's not as crisp and clean looking as the native resolution.

So here's my stupid old man question: With this new 27" Retina display, how can I be sure I'll be able to see and read text easily?

When I have the resolution set to be optimized for Retina display, what is the equivalent resolution?

Before I dump three grand or more on one of these magnificent screens, I want to be sure that I can use it for what I do *most* of the time. And I do a *lot* of it...if it works right, I'm sure a Retina display on a 27" iMac would help tremendously.

:)

Thanks very much for any help you can provide.
 
High resolution, no desktop-class graphic

iMac 21" -> Intel HD Graphic
iMac 27" -> Laptop class dedicated graphic
iMac 27" Retina -> High End laptop dedicated graphic

Running vector graphic is not a problem for laptop class graphic card on 5K screen. However, rendering high-res 3D games will dramatically affect its performance in sharpness & in FPS.

A little disappointed. :(
 
Wow that thing looks good...but the price is a little steep

For what it is, and reading the spec sheet, $2500 is not bad.

But again, it's still an all-in-one. One thing breaks inside and poof .. the 5K gorgeous super display is also gone along with it. LOL
 
What the hell?

Really Apple? I think the price is really really ridiculous. As glad as I am in terms of getting a display that allows me to play/edit my GoPro videos, I am really really really bummed out at the price. If apple thinks this is not meant for mass market, then why have it on iMac. They should make the cinema displays 5K... Oh, and did I say "really" enough?

You think it's expensive? Seriously? Try picking the none retina model and popping the fusion upgrade... Compare the prices... See the point? It's not ****ing expensive at all.
 
That display is incredible :eek::eek:

Good choice to go with the AMD R9 M290X and R9 M295X GPUs, now Apple's entire new line is moving to AMD GPUs.

Apple never bets on a dark horse, which means AMD's roadmap in GPUs looks rosy indeed. :cool:

Apple is moving to an exclusive AMD/Intel combo for it's desktops and probably laptops as well.

IMHO, Maxwell kills these AMD chips while being much more power efficient to boot. 2011 MBP with AMD GPU's are dying left and right, while my 2012 rMBP with Nvidia GPU (yes, they learned their lesson from 2008) is still running strong despite heavy gaming.
 
You guys are a bit overboard if you want this as average consumers. For professional video and photography editing, sure, but there is absolutely no other content that will look good on this screen for a long time to come.

Exactly. And as a Windows gamer I'd rather buy the consumer version of Oculus Rift and a $350 gaming video card sometime next year. The i5 processor I got a year ago is still a pretty fast gaming cpu. My nVidia 460 video card is my weak link.
Paying $2500 for a all in one is just not possible even if I had the cash. And I rather have a dual monitor setup on top of it. I'm watching Thursday night football on my right monitor and typing this on my second.
 
I want and need this in my life. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with my specced out 2011 iMac. Guess I'll wait to see how the screens fare given the problems rMBP consumers had.

I am of the same thought but yes there is nothing wrong with my current 2013 iMac.
 
I agree it's not at all expensive for what you are getting. Especially since most standalone 4k displays are in this price range.

idk. the price is both decent and bad.

The display is great, but the pc specs are kind of bla for the price. I've owned displays far longer then pc's. and well this display 'dies' when the pc it comes with dies.
 
I have a question about something that I don't see Mac people talk about very much.

I have a 27" iMac that has served me very well since 2010. I've never had any other desktop for this long.

But here's a problem I'm having. I don't see the text very well most of the time.

If I'm at 2560 x 1440 and looking at something that can be zoomed (like most Web pages with text), I'll zoom in two or three times to be able to read as easily as I want. This also applies to annoying HTML mail in size 10.

If I'm looking at something that cannot be zoomed, then I'll switch to 1920 x 1080 and that usually does the trick, but of course it's not as crisp and clean looking as the native resolution.

So here's my stupid old man question: With this new 27" Retina display, how can I be sure I'll be able to see and read text easily?

When I have the resolution set to be optimized for Retina display, what is the equivalent resolution?

Before I dump three grand or more on one of these magnificent screens, I want to be sure that I can use it for what I do *most* of the time. And I do a *lot* of it...if it works right, I'm sure a Retina display on a 27" iMac would help tremendously.

:)

Thanks very much for any help you can provide.


One of the major reasons people would pay a huge premium for Macs going all the way back to 1984 is that a combination of super legible fonts, high contrast screens, and high DPI screens, and large standard size text made them really stand out and being very very easy on the eyes compared to PCs (and Amigas, Atari, IBM etc., etc) and their typically awful monitors.

Around the time of retina introduction, Apple seems to have let legibility and clarity of text fall aside. Seriously, the text on the iPhone 4/5 is the smallest size font I've ever seen in my entire life on *anything*, even tinier than the tiniest footnotes in the smallest law books. And sometimes we are just stuck with that font and there is no way to change it.

Hopefully there is someone, somewhere deep in the Apple pit that has plans to fix this continuig problem one day, so that ease of reading the screen can again be a stand out Apple attribute.
 
Can this be used in Target Display Mode?

Edit: AnandTech confirmed that it cannot.. BOO!
 
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You guys are a bit overboard if you want this as average consumers. For professional video and photography editing, sure, but there is absolutely no other content that will look good on this screen for a long time to come.

No other content? It's called text. Even browser text such as this forum looks SO MUCH better on the retina MBP vs non-retina MBP. For someone that deals with small text a lot(coder, stock trader, etc), this is godsend.
 
No other content? It's called text. Even browser text such as this forum looks SO MUCH better on the retina MBP vs non-retina MBP. For someone that deals with small text a lot(coder, stock trader, etc), this is godsend.

I agree, text is much easier to read on the retina, which makes you less tired. So even for a regular programmer it's a huge improvement, based on my experience with the MacBook. And if you spend a third of your life in front of a screen, you can't put a price tag on ergonomics. $700 more for the retina? Bring it on! Of course if you can wait 2 more years, then it'll be more affordable for sure.

For me the quality of the display, desk, chair, keyboard and mouse is more important than the performance of the CPU, graphics, etc. Beyond a certain point, no matter how much CPU power you give me, I can't deliver a product any faster.
 
I want and need this in my life. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with my specced out 2011 iMac. Guess I'll wait to see how the screens fare given the problems rMBP consumers had.

You can sell it on ebay for about $1100-$1300. Use the money to buy the new iMac.
 
RAM Upgrade

Anyone know if it's possible to upgrade the RAM using aftermarket RAM? Or is it soldered into the motherboard?
 
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