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First Hands-On Impressions of 'The New iPad'
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I think they were referring to the capabilities that the new level of resolution along with the new chip suggests are possible. "Real estate" doesn't have to refer to only screen size, it could refer to the potential of the new hardware.
Don't be so harsh, maybe?
Real Estate = Potential? What? No, sorry. Endgadget's comment made no sense whatsoever.
Besides I have been using a stylus with my iPad for the last two years, all ten of them
I know a couple people who use a stylus with the iPad but they always have different ones each time, not sure if it's because they lose them or they are search for one that works well. I think a little of both.
Aside from the fact I already have a tablet suited for my needs (at the moment), before I purchase this sucker I'm interested what the real world battery life is since I assume the screen requires more juice as well as the GPU update.
Yes, I know that it's perfectly balanced and that makes sense for a pad that is meant to be used from all directions. But for reading this is a drawback, because the relatively large leverage of the iPad makes it harder to hold it in one hand for longer periods of time. That's the main drawback of the iPad as a reader for more.
Of cause you get more than just a reader and the hi-res screen should now sign the deal for me. No other "reader" offers such high resolution and that's a real advantage. I tried the iPad 2 for reading PDF versions of books that are formatted in 2 columns (some pages even three) and you really had to do a lot of zooming around or live with rather unpleasant looking fonts. Retina will take care of that issue, so I am now willing to pay for it.
Thanks for the hint on the stand, but that's not something to use when you're reading on the couch or in bed.
Deconstruct60 is absolutely right
I agree completely. iOS devices ARE the most personal computers we use now. We take them everywhere, and can do almost anything we need to do with them, email, internet surf, shopping (including for groceries), and entertainment. Computing doesn't get much more personal than that.
We shouldn't let Microsoft keep the phrase 'personal computer' for their products when most computers (ipads and iphones) use iOS.
(Although, "Windows OS based Personal Computer" doesn't exactly trip off the tongue.)
I agree completely. iOS devices ARE the most personal computers we use now. We take them everywhere, and can do almost anything we need to do with them, email, internet surf, shopping (including for groceries), and entertainment. Computing doesn't get much more personal than that.
We shouldn't let Microsoft keep the phrase 'personal computer' for their products when most computers (ipads and iphones) use iOS.
(Although, "Windows OS based Personal Computer" doesn't exactly trip off the tongue.)
Wrong. PC equates to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer
Notebook computers fit this description. And the iPad fits this description with cut the cord. Because you need cut the cord to fit the "no intervening computer operator" ie no need to sync to another Mac to activate.
So in short the iPad IS a PC. It is just not a PC in the traditional sense. It is the new breed of PC. But still very much a PC.
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Very true. People get very up close and personal with their iPads.
you remember how much $ Apple demanded from Sprint for the Sprint iPhone 4S? I'm almost willing to bet that Apple demanded similar type of commitments from tmobile for the iPad and tmobile balked. That's most likely the reason why.
I agree. I've had both iPads and recently swapped with my son to give him my iPad 2. I'd planned to use his iPad 1 until I upgraded this month. I was surprised that, for me, I really don't notice a difference. So instead of ditching it for an iPad 3 / New iPad - I'm hanging onto it.
I held off on the 4S iphone too - either Apple is losing it's touch (no pun intended) or I'm just losing the need to keep buying iToys.
A really big yawn over here. I've experienced the jump from normal to Retina screens for my iPod touch, and just getting the retina on the iPad is not getting me delirious with buyer-greed.
For me, I waited till the 4th generation iPhone to get one, and I believe I got it at a good state of maturity such that the 4S had nothing extra I really wanted. The polls indicate that the majority of 4S users, initially found it a novelty, but stopped using it after a while. So, for me, it took 4 iterations for the iPhone to get to a mature state.
So I'll wait till the 4th iteration of the iPad before considering getting one.
I'm more interested in the new refresh models for the MacBook Air and Pro.
For me, I waited till the 4th generation iPhone to get one, and I believe I got it at a good state of maturity such that the 4S had nothing extra I really wanted. The polls indicate that the majority of 4S users, initially found it a novelty, but stopped using it after a while. So, for me, it took 4 iterations for the iPhone to get to a mature state.
So I'll wait till the 4th iteration of the iPad before considering getting one.
I'm more interested in the new refresh models for the MacBook Air and Pro.
You mean the Artist Formerly Known as the Artist Formerly Known as Prince.
Or equally "that irrelevant egotist no-one gives a frack about anymore" works.
I'm in the same boat - though not for photography related reasons. iBooks plus LTE are the features that I find compelling - even more so if companies offer unlimited or very high data limit plans with tethering. I could ditch my 3G/4G Wimax (which is unreliable but cheap) and use the iPad as my internet gateway.
On the iPhone, unlimited 4G also means music streaming and tethering becomes viable for more people (I'm grandfathered so I still use those features but others I know don't due to data use issues).
I'm waiting to see how ATT prices LTE on the New iPad (should that be ��iPad or ��iPad?) and or the next iPhone.
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Well I already pre-ordered mine, but I'm interested in the real life battery with the wifi only or 4G turned off. On the first 2 iPads Apple actually downplayed the battery, and I wonder if that has continued.
I get that 4G is a battery hog but if they are still able to claim 9 hours, then what about without?
Not impressive
I don't know if I'm alone on this; I haven't read through all the comments, but it seems like Apple is just resting on its laurels lately; and no that isn't because of Steve Jobs' passing. Even when he was alive and at the helm, the last couple of years just seem like a generic formulaic model for very small features. First, don't put in cameras, keep memory small and use a single processor. Next, put in cameras front/back but make them crappy -- just enough to say we did it -- increase memory to acceptable level with higher-priced options. Third, provide different variations for cellular network, upgrade screen and change form-factor slightly, provide updated OS, increase graphics, etc. Forth, provide faster processors, keep memory same, put in better cameras, etc.
I know the list above doesn't match EXACTLY the iPhone/iPad upgrade schedule; I'm using it as an example; but at the same time it isn't that far off...
I have an iPad 2, several iPhones (both for my wife and I) and nothing but Macs at home. While the computers have been awesome, I'm somewhat less impressed with the phones/iPad. Both are heavy, clunky and sterile. The battery life on the iPad is amazing, but it down right sucks on the iPhone. Apple can't seem to get off of a 3.5" screen for the phone and a 9.7" one for the iPad. It is increasingly frustrating to see no expansion options for memory either. And, at least with the phone, not having a removable battery when cellular technologies seem to blow through the iPhone 4 in just a few hours with even moderate use is definitely hampering the experience; that and having large hands typing on a 3.5" screen is frustrating and after 5 years, Apple doesn't seem to get that larger screens are the way to go.
So, I don't know, I wasn't blown away that, aside from the great screen resolution, we basically have the same iPad. Processor, graphics, memory, etc. all seem to be as good or even bested by the competition. There was no "killer" feature; no thinking that "hey, now that I have an HD+ resolution screen, I'll need more on-board memory". It seems to be just getting tired... maybe I'm just being bitter for no reason, lol...
I don't know if I'm alone on this; I haven't read through all the comments, but it seems like Apple is just resting on its laurels lately; and no that isn't because of Steve Jobs' passing. Even when he was alive and at the helm, the last couple of years just seem like a generic formulaic model for very small features. First, don't put in cameras, keep memory small and use a single processor. Next, put in cameras front/back but make them crappy -- just enough to say we did it -- increase memory to acceptable level with higher-priced options. Third, provide different variations for cellular network, upgrade screen and change form-factor slightly, provide updated OS, increase graphics, etc. Forth, provide faster processors, keep memory same, put in better cameras, etc.
I know the list above doesn't match EXACTLY the iPhone/iPad upgrade schedule; I'm using it as an example; but at the same time it isn't that far off...
I have an iPad 2, several iPhones (both for my wife and I) and nothing but Macs at home. While the computers have been awesome, I'm somewhat less impressed with the phones/iPad. Both are heavy, clunky and sterile. The battery life on the iPad is amazing, but it down right sucks on the iPhone. Apple can't seem to get off of a 3.5" screen for the phone and a 9.7" one for the iPad. It is increasingly frustrating to see no expansion options for memory either. And, at least with the phone, not having a removable battery when cellular technologies seem to blow through the iPhone 4 in just a few hours with even moderate use is definitely hampering the experience; that and having large hands typing on a 3.5" screen is frustrating and after 5 years, Apple doesn't seem to get that larger screens are the way to go.
So, I don't know, I wasn't blown away that, aside from the great screen resolution, we basically have the same iPad. Processor, graphics, memory, etc. all seem to be as good or even bested by the competition. There was no "killer" feature; no thinking that "hey, now that I have an HD+ resolution screen, I'll need more on-board memory". It seems to be just getting tired... maybe I'm just being bitter for no reason, lol...
but each year they are keeping the same price point..and adding more features and making the devices quicker..
as for the ipad it's so good already minor tweeks is all it needs
they got my 700 dollars for another
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Same boat and agree. I do like it though, which I know you stated, but just wanted to throw that out there. I would definitely get the wifi model only though, I have a Verizon mifi hotspot thing and the signal strength is pretty poor. It seems like just moving a couple of inches causes my signal to drop like crazy (and I live in the DFW area) but I could see this as a potential purchase one day if the data plans for 4G LTE get more affordable.
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Same boat and agree. I do like it though, which I know you stated, but just wanted to throw that out there. I would definitely get the wifi model only though, I have a Verizon mifi hotspot thing and the signal strength is pretty poor. It seems like just moving a couple of inches causes my signal to drop like crazy (and I live in the DFW area) but I could see this as a potential purchase one day if the data plans for 4G LTE get more affordable.
iPhone retina content...
...has there been any word on how this will be handled?
At the moment, running a retina iPhone game (for example) on the iPad 2 results in it dropping down to 3GS resolution with the option to x2.
Strange seeing as even the original iPad has over the required resolution to show iPhone retina content?!
But if they keep this model going, will that mean the retina iPhone content on the new iPad will be x4 3GS resolution?!!?
That would be weak...
...has there been any word on how this will be handled?
At the moment, running a retina iPhone game (for example) on the iPad 2 results in it dropping down to 3GS resolution with the option to x2.
Strange seeing as even the original iPad has over the required resolution to show iPhone retina content?!
But if they keep this model going, will that mean the retina iPhone content on the new iPad will be x4 3GS resolution?!!?
That would be weak...
The new iPad is what the iPad 2 SHOULD HAVE BEEN! I'm so glad that I held out on all the previous iPad's. This is my first and should be sufficient enough until they actually give us the haptic display. Hoping a 3rd party makes a new stylus with fine tip that compensates the great screen resolution!