In 10 years it won't look like the headset coming out next year. Search for what cell phones looked like back in the 1980s - the people having them then couldn't imaging what we do today with an iPhone. The headset technology in the future will probably be more like a pair of sunglasses - which are already considered normal to wear.
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First Impressions: iPhone 15 Pro Spatial Videos on Vision Pro
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And certain websites will definitely be getting a new category that’s for sure. 😳
So I have to wonder about the resulting video files. Do they have a complete video stream for the "left eye" and "right eye", or is it just a normal video file with depth metadata attached?
what I don’t see happening: tech dads wearing a VP to record special moments with their kids/family.
what I do see happening: tech dads getting a 15 Pro or later so they can record special moments with kids/family, then investing in a VP for the family to play it back with.
intriguing stuff. the price point is the obvious elephant in the room, but Apple knows that, and we’ll likely see a price reduction sooner rather than later. think back to the original iPhone release and how quickly the price went from $600 to $200. Apple typically doesn’t take on projects if they aren’t confident they can scale them, and Apple Watch is the best recent example of this: initially a niche product without much utility for the average user; now a device that I see on more people’s wrists with each passing day, with lifesaving capabilities. (no, the VP will never be a lifesaving product, just making a point about the evolution of Apple products.)
what I do see happening: tech dads getting a 15 Pro or later so they can record special moments with kids/family, then investing in a VP for the family to play it back with.
intriguing stuff. the price point is the obvious elephant in the room, but Apple knows that, and we’ll likely see a price reduction sooner rather than later. think back to the original iPhone release and how quickly the price went from $600 to $200. Apple typically doesn’t take on projects if they aren’t confident they can scale them, and Apple Watch is the best recent example of this: initially a niche product without much utility for the average user; now a device that I see on more people’s wrists with each passing day, with lifesaving capabilities. (no, the VP will never be a lifesaving product, just making a point about the evolution of Apple products.)
Does anyone remember the movie Strange Days? That is pretty much where we are heading with this. Pun intended.
Not in anyone’s lifetime using a computer now.
I'm guessing we're all thinking the same thing for what it's going to be used for.
SPORTS! Right guys? Right?
SPORTS! Right guys? Right?
Fantastic to hear the results are good with just the iPhone’s cameras. I was definitely skeptical, but hopeful, that they could pull this off well with two lenses that are barely an inch apart. I’m excited!
Still bounced to a physical set you have to wear on your head so it’s much like any previous 3D tech if you ask me. So that leaves the question will it be adopted or not much like any previous 3D tech.
Sorry, what? How is this anything like Google’s magic eraser and AI editing features? I agree those are somewhat creepy, odd and potentially concerning. This, however, just accurately records and represents real moments, with 3D depth – no editing or manipulation involved. I don’t see any parallel or comparison between this and Google’s AI editing stuff at all.
No one is gonna wait 10 years for them to deliver on promise of making it lighter and more intuitive. It either catches on or it doesn’t.
This thing is gonna sell out for most of the year, and Apple will be hard at work on future versions of the product for years to come, they won’t be resting on their laurels for 10 years.
The first version doesn’t have to become a commonplace device for the platform to ultimately end up being successful. Look at the iPhone or Apple Watch. Successful product lines always start relatively small.
First impression is always most important, you can improve later as much as you want, if you lose people’s attention it’s hard to get it back.
Plus it’s a device that has generally had low appeal in every iteration so far, literally only Apple remains to give it a shot, and if they fail to spark wider interest I think we can safely bury the VR once and for all. I guess people just don’t like to wear stuff on their head all the time, and that’s what you need if you’re gonna make everyone throw away their iPhones and rush to buy this thing
I see it more as a replacement, or at least an alternative, to a tablet or laptop. The power and portability of a MacBook Air, but a huge display. My only worry is that it won't have the software power/flexibility of MacOS.
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These are my plans for Vision Pro.
I will upgrade from all my current Macs, iPad and PC's to it solely as my main home computing device in 2027.
My conclusion came after my recent move to my new location. The hassle of boxing up three 24 inch monitors, various devices like laptops and PC's, was overwhelming.
Home use of my computers are very narrow, I come home, make dinner, watch PBS News Hour while I cook. This I can easily do on my iPhone.
In my room, its the same thing, I will browse the Internet and watch YouTube, maybe for a couple hours at my desk then another hour while laying in bed. Arm fatigue is the biggest issue with the iPhone having to hold it up to my face, iPad takes up space on my bed in my small room.
The Vision Pro seems great for those few hours in the evening before bed time. My power strip is next to my night stand, so I can keep it plugged in for extended use in bed or while sitting at the desk.
Yes, there are concerns wearing this device for long periods. I do hope by 2027 Apple will solve some of these things. I will be buying the maxed config and of course get a keyboard and mouse for regular desktop computing activities like email, web browsing, word processing.
This is something I started thinking about deeply. What does the future of computing look like in my life near the end of the decade? The iPhone will still be there as probably 80% of my computing needs. While Vision Pro will take on the remaining 20%. I work in a Windows centric environment so, there is no changing that for work. My home computing is a lot of consumption. With Vision Pro and a wireless Apple Mini keyboard and hand gestures, I can still compose long comments and emails like this while enjoying computing in a more natural way.
My next big ticket purchase between now and 2027 is next years iPhone 16 Pro Max. I'm sure the 2027 iPhone will have some unique functionality that ties in with that years version of the Vision Pro; especially being the 20th anniversary of the iPhone. So, I will likely need to upgrade then.
So, thats looking like my vision of computing.
iPhone 19 Pro Max 512 GB - $1599
Vision Pro 4 512 GB - $3,500
Accessories, headstrap, mini wireless magic keyboard - $100
AirPods Pro 6 - 199
Total: $5,400
Probably could buy a couple Macs, iPhones and iPads with that. But again, its just the same squares taking up more space in my life and nothing new in terms moving beyond a 2D experience. Yes, I will need to pay for that and again, I am not dropping the iPhone out of my life since its a key device I will need. An Apple Watch upgrade is likely gonna happen for me around 2025 when they add glucose and blood pressure monitoring.
I will upgrade from all my current Macs, iPad and PC's to it solely as my main home computing device in 2027.
My conclusion came after my recent move to my new location. The hassle of boxing up three 24 inch monitors, various devices like laptops and PC's, was overwhelming.
Home use of my computers are very narrow, I come home, make dinner, watch PBS News Hour while I cook. This I can easily do on my iPhone.
In my room, its the same thing, I will browse the Internet and watch YouTube, maybe for a couple hours at my desk then another hour while laying in bed. Arm fatigue is the biggest issue with the iPhone having to hold it up to my face, iPad takes up space on my bed in my small room.
The Vision Pro seems great for those few hours in the evening before bed time. My power strip is next to my night stand, so I can keep it plugged in for extended use in bed or while sitting at the desk.
Yes, there are concerns wearing this device for long periods. I do hope by 2027 Apple will solve some of these things. I will be buying the maxed config and of course get a keyboard and mouse for regular desktop computing activities like email, web browsing, word processing.
This is something I started thinking about deeply. What does the future of computing look like in my life near the end of the decade? The iPhone will still be there as probably 80% of my computing needs. While Vision Pro will take on the remaining 20%. I work in a Windows centric environment so, there is no changing that for work. My home computing is a lot of consumption. With Vision Pro and a wireless Apple Mini keyboard and hand gestures, I can still compose long comments and emails like this while enjoying computing in a more natural way.
My next big ticket purchase between now and 2027 is next years iPhone 16 Pro Max. I'm sure the 2027 iPhone will have some unique functionality that ties in with that years version of the Vision Pro; especially being the 20th anniversary of the iPhone. So, I will likely need to upgrade then.
So, thats looking like my vision of computing.
iPhone 19 Pro Max 512 GB - $1599
Vision Pro 4 512 GB - $3,500
Accessories, headstrap, mini wireless magic keyboard - $100
AirPods Pro 6 - 199
Total: $5,400
Probably could buy a couple Macs, iPhones and iPads with that. But again, its just the same squares taking up more space in my life and nothing new in terms moving beyond a 2D experience. Yes, I will need to pay for that and again, I am not dropping the iPhone out of my life since its a key device I will need. An Apple Watch upgrade is likely gonna happen for me around 2025 when they add glucose and blood pressure monitoring.
A few counterpoints:
- The Apple Watch, just as one example, wasn't a runaway hit at first and I think most people (myself included) didn't think it seemed very useful or worthwhile; it didn't make a great "first impression". But they hugely improved and refined it, now it's sold many millions, I see them everywhere, all kinds of non-techie folks use them everyday and I've personally worn one everyday since I got the Series 2 (then 3, 4, 6, Ultra, and Ultra 2). First impression isn't all that matters.
- I don't think anyone is saying you'll wear one of these on your head "all the time", not by a long shot. Likely just 2-3 hours here, 2-3 hours there. Maybe to watch a movie immersively at home or on a plane, or to get a few hours of work done while traveling. It's not intended to be used like a Watch where you'll put it on in the morning and wear it till nighttime. Maybe in a decade, but not now.
- VR definitely has some appeal and it continues to expand. The Quest 2 has sold around 20 million units in 3 years, and the new Quest 3 is a huge improvement in almost every way. I'm using my Quest 3 a lot more than I used my Quest 2, partly because the ~30% resolution bump makes a huge difference in clarity and immersion. When Vision Pro comes out with much better HDR OLED displays at over 2x the resolution of the Quest 3, I think it will be a phenomenal experience visually and everyone who tries it will be more or less floored (we've heard this from everyone who's tried it already). VR/AR has just had a slow start, because it's a hard thing to do really well, and it needs to be done really well for it to be something most folks would want to use regularly, and it's taken many years to get to the point of something like the Vision Pro.
What an odd comment. Like the videos expire after a year? I feel the chance of me having something to watch these at some point in the future is pretty good so I want to start taking some of these videos as soon as possible to be able to look back on.
I doubt if AVP will evolve to be a primary method of doing the audio and text of what a smartphone does now, but it certainly may evolve to far better provide the imagery folks do on smartphones now.
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Good anology. I used cell phones from the beginning, and the first one was about like carrying around five MBPs stuck together, and with dead reception spots everywhere. But still a huge productivity boost to road warriors.