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Or just not made it so freekin' thin and kept ethernet, USB, Thunderbolt, and power ports present.

But, no. All in the name of being the thinnest laptop in existence. Because that's ultimately what matters.

Actually, that's the WHOLE POINT of the "Air". It's all about being portable. If you don't care about that, then buy the Pro.
 
How would this fare speed-wise? Given that I don't do video editing or gaming, would it be reasonably lag-free?
It can handle burst loads. Not sustained loads. There have been complaints about this family of processors on other computers though.

Actual performance on OS X will require a little more thorough testing, but keep in mind the first gen RMBPs had performance issues, and I don't believe this machine is faster than those were.
 
Do you work at Apple to be able to make these statements with so much authority?

Yes, and? Has this discussion not happened enough since 2012? Do we really need to repeat it? You're still whining and buying Apple products? It's pretty clear by now that Apple does not like ports because somebody there believes they look ugly, or some other reason. It's time to accept it, or move on to another computer that comes with all of the 23 ports that you may need to use. Personally I prefer one, or two, ports that are flexible enough to use in different ways, than have a product with 23 ports, of which 20 I may never use. I do not begrudge people that need 23 ports and I don't spend my time on forums related to those computer makers and whine about their 23 ports.

The businesses that I work at do not use optical drives, so don't confuse your little world with everybody else's needs. It's really ironic that you mention ISOs.

So, your blind devotion to Apple is causing you to make apologies for them to the level of telling another Apple fan that they live in a little world and to stop buying their products?

Yikes, the forums have officially reached a new low.
 
Do you have to tap it to have normal function? I really hate the 3 finger drag because it feels unstable, and sometimes you have to hold the trackpad in.....

You dont need 3 fingers to drag. You can drag by single tap and hold, move, then unhold.
 
Think we can say that the Skylake MBPs will have a major new design: new keyboards, trackpads, memory, hard drives, etc.

I'm waiting for Skylake before I upgrade.
 
Or just not made it so freekin' thin and kept ethernet, USB, Thunderbolt, and power ports present.

But, no. All in the name of being the thinnest laptop in existence. Because that's ultimately what matters.

Then don't buy it. It's not for YOU. Plenty others will find it useful and desirable. Why can you not understand that?
 
Then don't buy it. It's not for YOU. Plenty others will find it useful and desirable. Why can you not understand that?

Why can't you understand that they've been doing this to their ENTIRE MacBook line for years, and that it's a slippery slope that isn't going to stop until there are no ports on any of their laptops?
 
So Apple ditched Thunderbolt already?

No, TB2 ports are too thick and they wanted the new Macbook to be thinner. If you look at the side of the 15" rMBP, you will see that this would be impossible with a TB port. TB3 ports will be thinner. 15" Skylake rMBP will most likely come with a TB3 and a USB-C port.

Here's a summary of what to expect. Note that the next-gen Thunderbolt is tied to Intel's Skylake chip architecture, which isn't due until 2015.

--2X jump in speed. Bandwidth increase to 40 gigabits per second from 20Gbps.

--Displays. Can drive two 4K displays over a single cable, as The Tech Report points out.

--Support. PCIe Gen3, USB 3.0, DisplayPort 1.2, USB 3.0, and HDMI 2.0

--Charging. Support for devices up to 100 watts.

Getting back to the plug: the height will apparently be slimmed down to just 3mm from the current
 
The company I work for has roughly 45 conference rooms each with a projector. Only a handful of those projectors have HDMI ports, so I how would I connect to the ones that don't?

USB-C VGA multi-port adapter has - as the title indicates - a VGA port (assuming you've got older projectors with analog connectors). :)
 
Why can't you understand that they've been doing this to their ENTIRE MacBook line for years, and that it's a slippery slope that isn't going to stop until there are no ports on any of their laptops?

No, they haven't. They have been doing that in your mind, because of your specific use cases. To the majority of others, they have not. They have given ME new features. You can either adapt to this and still have all of the functionality you want, or go buy the laptop with 23 ports and 2 optical drives (so that you can easily copy your precious DVDs).
 
Great, only one port on the laptop.

I can't wait to see the spider's nest of cables and plugs that some people are going to need with this one.

HDMI, power, USB for external devices, Thunderbolt... All going through one port.

Who thought this would be a good idea? Oh, right. Jony...

This laptop clearly isn't designed for the power user. You do get that.. right?
 
Why can't you understand that they've been doing this to their ENTIRE MacBook line for years, and that it's a slippery slope that isn't going to stop until there are no ports on any of their laptops?

What necessary port is missing from MBP?
 
No, they haven't. They have been doing that in your mind, because of your specific use cases. To the majority of others, they have not. They have given ME new features. You can either adapt to this and still have all of the functionality you want, or go buy the laptop with 23 ports and 2 optical drives (so that you can easily copy your precious DVDs).

So they haven't really gotten rid of optical drives and ethernet ports on their laptops?

Oh, phew! Glad to know that's only in my head. Thanks, man.

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What necessary port is missing from MBP?

Ethernet.
 
Why can't you understand that they've been doing this to their ENTIRE MacBook line for years, and that it's a slippery slope that isn't going to stop until there are no ports on any of their laptops?

So then there are a few options:
1) by the time this applies to the whole MacBook line, it will matter about as much as no floppy drive being present
2) when this applies to the whole MacBook line, people who don't like it can find something preferable elsewhere
3) if people don't like it now, they can ditch Apple and go onto something which is better, unless their 'blind devotion' compels them to expect a new MacBook with an optical drive etc.
4) Apple shouldn't have released this laptop now because of people who currently want other laptops (which of course makes no sense)

So they haven't really gotten rid of optical drives and ethernet ports on their laptops?

They didn't get rid of optical drive and ethernet functionality on their notebooks. Anything you could do you can still do, unless, again, for some bizarre reason, you literally have to plug the ethernet cable into the computer with no adapter inbetween.
 
The new MacBook is an iPad with a keyboard. Perfect for A-class processors, and perfect for a raft of users who want something more than an iPad but less than a MBP.
 
So they haven't really gotten rid of optical drives and ethernet ports on their laptops?

Oh, phew! Glad to know that's only in my head. Thanks, man.

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Ethernet.

Oh, right, ethernet. I forgot people still use that for the laptops?
 
Time Marches On

I'm shocked by this new macbook.
Out of the box it can't connect to an external display, read from a DVD, read an SD card, or connect to anything USB while charging. Wanna do any of these...drop an extra $79 on an adapter? How do I import my pictures from SD cards? Two adapters?

Optical disks really are completely outdated. I don't think I've used one, in a computing context anyway, in years.

The majority of modern companies usually have some kind of web based install, or web based enterprise roll out ability and most drivers you download from a website address. It's been this way for years. The driver on the CDROM is usually way outdated anyway.

Heck, Even Blu Ray is dying out. Nobody wants inconvenient, slow, and scratchable optical media anymore. Streaming, while not quite as good quality wise as Blu Ray, is good enough and it has reached the point where it's much more convenient, and you can get already get decent 4k streams from netflix if you have a fiber/gigabit connection.

As far as replacing the other ports with USB-C, it seems clear that USB-C is going to be a standard and will probably replace Thunderbolt and Lightning eventually, or has the possibility to anyway. It would make sense.

Using an adaptor isn't a big deal. In some cases it's better with these thin devices not to have many wires connecting to them anyway.

The only problem I have is that it's really cheap of apple not to include a multi-adaptor with the computer. Selling them for 80 dollars is one thing but not including them when they're necessary for HDMI and regular USB connectivity, which is still important, is kind of inexcusable.
 
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