I'm sorry, I am thinking of iPhoto, which was not free when I obtained it, I had to pay for both the Mac and iPhone version, and the iPhone version does not work on iOS8....
All these articles seem to express how great the new Photos app is. The truth is that for the large majority of people who would want to use it - they will be now forced to pay a monthly fee to sync their photos via iCloud.
Apple only provides 5 GB of free cloud storage. I don't know anyone who has 5GB or less of iPhotos storage.
While I am a fan of most Apple technologies - I am not a fan of having to pay a monthly forever just to sync my photos to my other devices.
Please change the headlines to these glowing reviews to "Photos Will Require Monthly Subscription for 99% of Users for Syncing Photos"
This is exactly how I feel. There isn't a chance in hell that I would trust my dSLR photos to this app. As I just said in a previous reply, iCloud is simply unreliable. It needs to be rock solid 99.99% of the time. Right now I'd say it's around 80-85% reliable which in turn makes it a no go for my most important data (of any kind).Maybe this is the case. However, from the outset this software seems highly dependent on iCloud for full functionality.
The basic truth is that I do not trust iCloud with my photos. Music? Sure. Phone contacts, syncing app preferences? Why not. But my photos?
This is the most precious data I have. Nothing else even comes close. My music collection is replaceable. Photos are not.
Without this trust, this software becomes nearly useless. I can use it for "messing around" but not to seriously store my photos. The approach seems to be putting the "master copy" on iCloud. NO WAY! The master copy needs to be on the computer. Every other copy should be a backup of it.
That's the fundamental problem for me, and I'm sure many others. We're not willing to risk our photos; they are too precious. If I had to lose ALL my personal data except ONE kind, I'd pick photos to be that exception.
It absolutely is dependent on iCloud, that's the whole point of calling it iCloud Photo Library. For the mass public, this is perfect for them but it WILL not please everyone, especially those who doesn't want the cloud storage. For these people, you can use Adobe's Lightroom or find a different app.
The fact of the matter is, Apple does not tailor to people like you. They tailor to the mass public that does not care about where the master copy is, as long as it is backed up and in the cloud.
For many, the secure place is in the cloud. Majority of users do not back up their data, do not even think about doing 3 backups (two local, one remote) and so on. For these people, the safest place is in the cloud where Apple can back up multiple times and store in different data centers to ensure one data center going down does not lose the photos for good. For these type of users, they may only have one iOS device and not use any computers. They lose that device or lose their sole computer with no backups, iCloud Photo Library will still have their photos.
You can do everything you just said![]()
From my initial reading on this, the editing tools provided are not as robust as Aperture. If this is the case, I'd be disappointed.
Fixed.
Agreed.
It's completely weird as we were initially told the new application would have us Aperture users covered.
Did Apple ever say this photos app was intended to replace Aperture? Seems to me it's a replacement for iPhoto. Did iPhoto have robust editing tools like Aperture?
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When did Apple say Photos was an Aperture replacement? My understanding is it's an iPhoto replacement.
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When did Apple say this?
"With the introduction of the new Photos app and iCloud Photo Library, enabling you to safely store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere, there will be no new development of Aperture," said Apple in a statement provided to The Loop. "When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS."
I'm a Realtor. I take lots of photos of lots of houses. I bring them into my iMac and iPhoto and from there I auto create an Event which would be "Photos for 123 Jones Street". Then I have the option of selecting Quick Fix, Effects or Adjust. I don't understand why Apple has chosen to do away with these options. Where will all of my Events go? Will they be turned into Albums automatically? You can split or join Events. Will you be able to do the same with Albums.
I also don't like the fact that it's either all or nothing. If I want to do the iCloud backup I should be asked every time I take a photo if I want to "upload to iCloud". There are lots of photos I use in business that I see no reason to make available to my iPhone or iPad. And the same with more personal photos. We should always have a choice. Maybe we will but from what I have read so far it doesn't appear that way.
Too often Apple gets rid of a tried and test program and replaces it with something new that isn't always as good as what they are getting rid of. If you are going to bring a new product on the market it should be to add features, not get rid of the ones that millions of users have used and appreciated for many years. Change just for the sake of change is not good. I'm sure there are some improvements but don't throw the baby out with the bath water!
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If I understood you correctly you are saying that all of the thousands of photos I have taken are now going to be not only stored at iCloud.com but on each of my iOS devices? That's doesn't make any sense. I shouldn't have to use up valuable space on my iPhone and iPad in order to use the new Photos with its iCloud.com integration. I hope that you are wrong.
When Photos was introuced.
When asked about what Aperture-like features users can expect from the new Photos app, an Apple representative mentioned plans for professional-grade features such as image search, editing, effects, and most notably, third-party extensibility.
. @peelman @Angry_Drunk @BenBajarin I know one or two folks on that team and they have said to me, Be patient, grasshopper.
1:22pm - 5 Feb 15
Not in so many words. Their formulation was rather that they are retiring iPhoto and Aperture in favour of a new application called Photos.Did Apple ever say this photos app was intended to replace Aperture? Seems to me it's a replacement for iPhoto.
Some early incorrect information that were deal breakers for Photos.app as a pro editing tool are now being cleared up.
- You can store your library anywhere you want, including an external drive. You can set one of your libraries to become the master system library.
Apple is going to have to pry 'Aperture' from my cold, dead hands! The day 'Aperture' is no longer compatible with an OS X upgrade is the day I permanently stop upgrading my Mac's OS. Eventually, that will mean I can't buy a new Mac (due to the OS that is included and required).
Mark
I'm sorry if this was already covered in the last 11 pages, but is there any mention of the Faces feature being carried over to Photos? This is my most useful and favorite feature on my personal Mac. Having thousands of photos of my family, Faces is a life saver.
Maybe this is the case. However, from the outset this software seems highly dependent on iCloud for full functionality.
The basic truth is that I do not trust iCloud with my photos. Music? Sure. Phone contacts, syncing app preferences? Why not. But my photos?
This is the most precious data I have. Nothing else even comes close. My music collection is replaceable. Photos are not.
Without this trust, this software becomes nearly useless. I can use it for "messing around" but not to seriously store my photos. The approach seems to be putting the "master copy" on iCloud. NO WAY! The master copy needs to be on the computer. Every other copy should be a backup of it.
That's the fundamental problem for me, and I'm sure many others. We're not willing to risk our photos; they are too precious. If I had to lose ALL my personal data except ONE kind, I'd pick photos to be that exception.
Nobody is forcing you to use iCloud and even if you were, your master copies are on your Mac. It is just being copied to iCloud. Basically if iCloud was to go down, you still have them on your actual hard drive. I think you should take another look at your preferences.
It is also your responsibility to back up your Photos. Time Machine has been doing it for years.
iPhoto is still available on the MAS if you still don't like Photos.
This is from Pogue's review:Did Apple ever say this photos app was intended to replace Aperture?
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/everything-worth-knowing-about-switching-to-os-x-110129491789.htmlHowever, Apple stresses that Photos is not really meant to be a replacement for the professional photo app, Aperture. At least not yet.
I would. It shows a big checkbox to disable the feature related to the concept that has you irritated.IPerhaps I should play with Photos and see how it works before passing judgement; I'm just irritated with the concept of everything moving to "the cloud".
Wait - do if I start using the new app will it duplicate my 100gig library? Will I have 200gigs of pics on my HD?
I do back up my data. I am a systems admin and storage management is one of my specialties.
Perhaps I should play with Photos and see how it works before passing judgement; I'm just irritated with the concept of everything moving to "the cloud".
I want to manage and back up my own data. Maybe that makes me old school; if so who cares? In a few more decades I'll be an old codger who doesn't give a crap anymore and ya'll can have your cloud everything. For now, let me manage my data.
(yes, I'm being silly. I'm aware)