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First Impressions of Photos for OS X: 'Vast Improvement' Over iPhoto
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Yes, sorta. There are no raw adjustments as in Aperture. Also if you import both JPEG and RAW versions there doesn't seem to be a way to switch between them (whatever you had as your primary version when you imported into Aperture or changed later in Aperture seems to be what you are stuck with in Photos.
I haven't tried importing anything new into Photos to see what happens (with RAW+JPEG) then.
Interesting this story quotes mainstream media that always raves about Apple products.
I'll wait to see what photography publications have to say.
As we've seen before, Apple's upgrades don't always make things better and in some cases, it takes years before things work well, such as Maps and Siri.
Iphoto was fine as part of my system. Given Apple's history, I'm not going to take a risk.
I'll wait to see what photography publications have to say.
As we've seen before, Apple's upgrades don't always make things better and in some cases, it takes years before things work well, such as Maps and Siri.
Iphoto was fine as part of my system. Given Apple's history, I'm not going to take a risk.
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I did not see this in the video. Concerning file management, will there be a sidebar on the left/right side like there currently is so I can create folders, drag, drop, and rearrange photos and projects, etc. or will everything be automated and forced like the current iOS photos?
*EDIT* Thank you for sending me this photo. Yes it does have a sidebar and a listing of all projects and folders for management.
I did not see this in the video. Concerning file management, will there be a sidebar on the left/right side like there currently is so I can create folders, drag, drop, and rearrange photos and projects, etc. or will everything be automated and forced like the current iOS photos?
*EDIT* Thank you for sending me this photo. Yes it does have a sidebar and a listing of all projects and folders for management.
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I use iPhoto to archive my photos and have invested hours creating Events and assigning faces to photos. Do do all my editing in PhotoShop and none in iPhoto. I synch the low res surrogates to my ipad and iphone. Since IOS 8 these Events are no longer in alphabetical order, making location and retrieval of images go from almost instant to neigh on impossible. Moments and years automatically assigned are for the selfie generation. Will I be able to trasfer all my Events to the new Photos app and will they synch alphabetically?
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Do the photos need to be in Folders as all mine are in Events currently in iPhoto.
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I'm in the same situation too. It seems to be geared around Albums and not Events. This discussion may interest and add to the despair too: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6537791?tstart=0
There is an All Photos album that is arranged by year and "moments" automatically. However Events are imported into a Folder titled iPhoto Events. Within that you can arrange the events manually in any order but there doesn't seem to be any way to rearrange by any means (alphabetic, date, location...)
You can add or not add folders as you wish. They are just there to provide hierarchical organization.
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This is the same thing that happens with iPhoto and actually has nothing to do with Aperture/iPhoto. When you import into Photos it creates a new library with file name extension .photoslibrary and the old library is renamed .migratedaplibrary or .migratedphotolibrary. When you open the old library it puts up the window to select what you want to use. If you say Aperture/iPhoto it continues with that application but if you select Photos it opens the .photoslibrary instead. You can rename the .migratedXXXlibrary (which is ironically not the migrated library) back to the original name to avoid the dialog.
OneDrive primarily as as an existing Office 365 subscriber (heavy user of Office 2013) I have a boatload of space I'm not otherwise using, even with all of my Office documents hosted there. Over and above that:
- The OneDrive iOS app automatically backs up all camera roll photos to a folder called Camera Roll within OneDrive itself. Images can be uploaded in full resolution or downconverted if needs be.
- The photos are stored in date order as files. No extracting images from databases, files can be synced out to other OneDrive capable applciations & services ie OneDrive clients for OSX, Windows, the 8.1 Metro application, XBox One etc.
- Dates and EXIF data are preserved.
- Photos can be easily managed, downloaded, shared individually or at the folder level from the web interface.
I've only relied on iCloud Photo Stream for wirelessly syncing from my iPhone to my iPhoto Library, something I'll hopefully be able to carry on doing with the new Photo.app. However 5GB, which also has to host my iPhone backup, is way too small for any long term photo hosting. Additionally if anything is missing, goes wrong, syncing issues etc and there are no tools for getting at the individual photo files themselves. Everything is abstracted away from end users.
After the issues I had with my one and only try with iTunes match where not only were there syncing issues with my iPhone, there was no way to force an entire album sync so there was a mix and match with matched and uploaded files. The proverbial straw on the camels back was iTunes Match monkeying up my iTunes library, messing up my exactingly created Beatles mono & stereo album metadata. This latter antic had me turning off iTunes Match and restoring my iTunes library from Time Machine/Time Capsule.
I frankly don't have sufficient faith in Apple not to screw up and/or lose photos from my iPhoto library. Ergo the backup of all my iPhoto hosted photos and iPhone camera roll to OneDrive.
Events being messed about with
I have hundreds of different Events in various iPhoto libraries. I will be more than a little annoyed if I cannot handle these as Events in Photo for OSX. One feature I would be really looking for would be the ability to export an event from one Mac to another, rather than having to use iPhoto Library Manager, which does work but is a bit clunky. The image editing is neither hear nor there for me as I use Photoshop CC2014 for that. Editing or importing RAW is again of no interest as I use Phase One's Capture One for that.
I have hundreds of different Events in various iPhoto libraries. I will be more than a little annoyed if I cannot handle these as Events in Photo for OSX. One feature I would be really looking for would be the ability to export an event from one Mac to another, rather than having to use iPhoto Library Manager, which does work but is a bit clunky. The image editing is neither hear nor there for me as I use Photoshop CC2014 for that. Editing or importing RAW is again of no interest as I use Phase One's Capture One for that.
I was going to listen to entire podcast before responding but you sound like a fool from your sweeping statements. Millions continue to use Aperture. Some are pros and some are not. Same as Lightroom and Photoshop. Apple has been shifting closer to consumers for the past 10 years but they have a long way to go before they abandon pro users. Just look at Logic Pro. Before last week all the whiners said Apple was out of the pro audio business and then they released Logic update so those people all shut up. Apple is secretive about hardware and software mores than any other company so everything you think about their plans and yours could change the next morning. Since Apple is forcing a migration away from Aperture, Photos will create a real question for all kinds of customers. Same thing happened when Apple shifted away from Final Cut Pro. Everyone got pissy like you and said that they were neglecting the pro users and then when FCPX came out, everyone called it iMovie and a toy. Well they were wrong. So are you. I use all of these programs. I am a pro. I also use both a DSLR and iPhone for pro work. Aperture was/is great but I will be checking out Photos and hopefully it will be enough for me.
Raw files anyone?
I'll give lightroom a try, and test photos for my personal stuff.
Much Thanks!
I'll give lightroom a try, and test photos for my personal stuff.
Much Thanks!
Ok well that's different, and totally understandable.
My issue is with those expecting things Apple never promised.
I have at least 80GB worth of photos every year on average for the past few years. This is a colossal fail if I have to upload all my RAW photos to the cloud. Unbelievable ... amateurs and pros are most likely getting lower into the priority for Apple ecosystem. Yikes!
What is it with the overreacting in this forum. I suggest you just don't check the 'put photos in the cloud' box. pretty easy.
For that matter create more than one library, and only have one be icloud synced if you so wish.
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a subscription??
sorry to have disappoint you ... a little touchy on a forum don't you think.
Anyway, can you confirm that there is in fact an option to do selective upload to cloud? The article that I was commenting on wasn't clear on it.
Apologies if I missed it, but the main thing that I never liked about iPhoto is that it is apparently impossible to find the actual file of the photo in Finder, has this been fixed/resolved? Seems like that should be an easy thing do, of course I have it all backed up on Dropbox but still annoying. For iTunes, I can find the real files under the iTunes sub folders so on..Thanks.
WTF - Photos for OS X missing flags, star ratings and events
Initial reviews of Photos for OS X are advising that important iPhoto features, such as flags, star ratings, events, etc are missing.
I have more than 15K photos sitting in iPhoto and all sorted into 100+ Events exactly how I want (not an algorithm), star rated and with comments (Let's hope comments remain).
I recollect that photos for IOS was missing the camera roll when it was launched, before a massive user revolt forced Apple to change their mind and re-instate it. Unfortunately flags, start ratings and events are not mainstream for every user. But looking for ideas to petition Apple to keep these key features for medium to advanced iPhoto users please?
Dr. D.
Initial reviews of Photos for OS X are advising that important iPhoto features, such as flags, star ratings, events, etc are missing.
I have more than 15K photos sitting in iPhoto and all sorted into 100+ Events exactly how I want (not an algorithm), star rated and with comments (Let's hope comments remain).
I recollect that photos for IOS was missing the camera roll when it was launched, before a massive user revolt forced Apple to change their mind and re-instate it. Unfortunately flags, start ratings and events are not mainstream for every user. But looking for ideas to petition Apple to keep these key features for medium to advanced iPhoto users please?
Dr. D.
Flagged photos and events were migrated over. Star ratings are replaced with favorites. Word to the wise: empty your iPhoto trash before migrating.
When you upload to facebook, if you have tagged a face in iPhoto, the face is tagged in facebook.
So if Apple wants us to "fill your library, not your device," does that mean they expect us to delete our local full-resolution copy after its uploaded to iCloud? Or does that happen automatically? I really wish the price of 1TB SSD's were lower, then keeping our pics on our own machine would be an easier decision to make.
This is from the much more comprehensive article at macworld
http://www.macworld.com/article/2880099/first-look-photos-for-os-x.html
you can also have multiple libraries
including selectively configuring whether a library is stored in iCloud or not.