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First Impressions of Photos for OS X: 'Vast Improvement' Over iPhoto

Now if they could fix the stupid iOS Photos app. I don't want my photos organized by "moments", locations, or dates. I don't even want that to be the default opening screen. I want albums and camera roll. That's it. If it organizes by moments, I have to tap multiple times to break it down into years, months, date, etc, location. It's stupid and pointless.
 
I wonder how it will handle Nikon RAW files. iPhoto was so slow with them.

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Can you still sync locally via iTunes. I'm not uploading my entire library to the cloud.
 
I have about 100 GB of photos in Aperture. I'd love to migrate my library and use the new Photos app, but does that mean that all 100GB will be synced to the cloud? I don't mind my iPhoto library being synced to the cloud, but I don't really want my entire library of SLR photos from the last 10 years being synced to to the cloud because I can't afford the subscription fee for that much data.

Does anyone know if apple is planning to let us decide which photos go in the cloud and which do not?
 
Family Sharing

Tike1994 said:
Question/Suggestion: I used to have all users in my household (2 adults, 2 kids) signed into our main iCloud account on all devices. This allowed all pictures taken by the family to be automatically downloaded to our iMac for backup/preservation by Aperture/iPhoto.

When Family Sharing came out with iOS8, we all logged into our seperate iCloud accounts and now only one user has their photos automatically brought into Aperture on our iMac.

They need to have a way to enable Family Sharing in this new Photos app so all the pictures a family of users take are preserved in one place. Of course, I'm sure Apple would like me to buy extra iCloud photo storage for 4 users instead of 1 :)

Any thoughts?
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AMEN! That is my number one ask from iCloud right now. I would spend more (to increase my storage limit) on iCloud and it would greatly simplify photo management for my family.
 
Not enough

The main feature (to be able to easily sync with iCloud) is irrelevant to my wife who has more pictures than her icloud storage (5GB) will allow. So now she will either have to pay or not have access to the iCloud syncing? WTF?

Since closing down Aperture, this has been a giant fiasco. Coupled with iCloud's completely confusing and unreliable feature set across devices it looks like Apple are chasing their tails. Instead of concentrating on the corporate style eco system tie in, they should have made iCloud something that worked without the heavy subscription.

Fill up your Mac, fill up your iPhone/iPad, and pay hard.
There should at least be a shared family storage plan or some kind of centralised family storage folder. If this stuff is going to be in the cloud then surely these apps could save and retrieve from a single database?

I pay for my icloud storage and my wife now also has to pay. Meanwhile, I'm sharing and collaborating using Dropbox folders with numbers and pages files via a link and logging in. Easy.

Come on Apple. Sort it out.
 
Tike1994 said:
Question/Suggestion: I used to have all users in my household (2 adults, 2 kids) signed into our main iCloud account on all devices. This allowed all pictures taken by the family to be automatically downloaded to our iMac for backup/preservation by Aperture/iPhoto.

When Family Sharing came out with iOS8, we all logged into our seperate iCloud accounts and now only one user has their photos automatically brought into Aperture on our iMac.

They need to have a way to enable Family Sharing in this new Photos app so all the pictures a family of users take are preserved in one place. Of course, I'm sure Apple would like me to buy extra iCloud photo storage for 4 users instead of 1 :)

Any thoughts?
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That's done through the Photo Sharing feature. Just add everyone in your family to the shared group and all photos posted to it arrives in each person's library. I forgot what it's called exactly.
 
I have a feeling that if I use this app, I'm going to start a brand new library and only use it to store phone snapshots.

Serious photos from my SLR will continue to go straight to Aperture (or Lightroom in the future). From what I'm reading, this Photos app doesn't really have the power to replace Aperture. Also, cloud storage is way too expensive to be storing huge RAW files in it.

Question: Does anyone know if photos in the "Photos" app can be synced to your iPhone through iTunes the same way you can with iPhoto and Aperture? If so I may forego the "cloud" bull---- completely and just keep doing things the way I am now.

Apple should never have discontinued Aperture; they should have just kept developing it alongside Photos. Photos cannot replace Aperture.
 
Patriot24 said:
I'll be interested to see what options are present for uploading the 20 GB+ of photos that I have into the cloud. I'd love for them to be backed-up and accessible on all of my devices everywhere. Today they are all local.
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I'm currently uploading a ton of photos to iCloud so hopefully it works out. I tried to import two separate iPhoto libraries and had no luck. It would force me to switch. I may try again once everything uploads to the cloud though.
 
Does it display any EXIF data? Edit a duplicate? Open in external editor?

Has anyone seen any sign that it will display even the most basic EXIF data (shutter speed, ISO, aperture, focal length)?

Also any indication that you can create one or more duplicates and edit them (other than resetting your changes)?

Ability to open photo in an external editor like Pixelmator?
 
j-a-x said:
I have about 100 GB of photos in Aperture. I'd love to migrate my library and use the new Photos app, but does that mean that all 100GB will be synced to the cloud? I don't mind my iPhoto library being synced to the cloud, but I don't really want my entire library of SLR photos from the last 10 years being synced to to the cloud because I can't afford the subscription fee for that much data.

Does anyone know if apple is planning to let us decide which photos go in the cloud and which do not?
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I have my library synced locally. It gave me the option to, but I declined. I don't use the cloud for my photos.
 
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'Vast Improvement' Over iPhoto? I would hope so. I switched to Aperture after iPhoto started getting very sluggish when my library grew past a certain size (I think 100GB, but dont' remember).

I'm not a pro, so I'm not as worried about going to Aperture -> Photos. It's possible it will be a step down, but if the iCloud features work really well, I will pay the money for more iCloud storage. Having everything that I shoot and import from my DSLR automatically available on my iPhone, and having edits on either Mac or iOS devices get synced across in both directions would be huge for my photo workflow.

This is the kind of integration I've been expecting from Apple (I'm assuming it works well here; Apple hasn't impressed me on the server-side services, so the jury is still out).
 
DenBeke said:
I'm an Aperture user. Should I start looking into Lightroom? Or will Photos be better than Aperture?
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Doesn't really handle multiple libraries. No way to hierarchically organize photos. No round-trip to external editors or plugins (I use Nik). No presets or ability to stamp changes. No stacks. No brushes other than healing. Poor import/export options (you can't resize on export or as far as I know rename on import). The list goes on and on. If you are at all serious about your photography, forget this.

5 minutes with this and I'm now ordering Lightroom.
 
DougTheImpaler said:
I'm curious how the process will work from iOS to iCloud Photo Library and to the Mac when it comes to deleting stuff on the phone. I have a 16GB phone (which was a mistake, I know, but I'm living with it) and it'd be nice if I could just delete stuff from the iPhone knowing it's in iCloud. Some indication of what's synced and what's not would be nice. I'm afraid to experiment because I don't want to lose stuff. It's very confusing to me and so far nobody has really talked about it.
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That's not how it works. It works like IMAP/Exchange email. You delete from one location it's gone from all. You edit on one device and the changes show everywhere. It's now just one seamless library and therefore much simpler and easier to understand, use, and manage.

However, you can choose to have optimized photos show on your device to save space. Then when you edit it goes out and gets the full resolution image. I've found this significantly reduced the amount of space taken up by photos and videos on my iPhone.
 
bripirie said:
Has anyone seen any sign that it will display even the most basic EXIF data (shutter speed, ISO, aperture, focal length)?
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Only the most basic, in a popup ("Get Info").

Also any indication that you can create one or more duplicates and edit them (other than resetting your changes)?
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Yes you can.

Ability to open photo in an external editor like Pixelmator?
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No round-tripping with any editors or plugins. And import/export is very crude, beyond ability to "share" on the Internet.
 
palebluedot said:
I see a lot of conversation about "cloud syncing", iCloud, etc. in this post. What about those of us who do not want our photos in the cloud. Will the traditional USB sync/drag and drop/local file storage framework of iPhoto still be allowed? Will it be prominent?
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Should be able to
 
AppleMad98004 said:
Also I believe I have 5GB of iCloud storage which is free. To store more in the cloud I would have to buy more.
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As would I. I know it's only .99 a month to increase it to my needs, but I don't see the value since I wouldn't use that capacity.
 
At the very least it should be a good way for me to get my iPhone photos out of the cloud and into Aperture without going through the whole web interface and manually downloading them or plugging in my phone via USB.
 
Patriot24 said:
I'll be interested to see what options are present for uploading the 20 GB+ of photos that I have into the cloud.
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When you're approaching 200GB, the thought of uploading and paying for the storage monthly is...disheartening.
 
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